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Ireland is becoming a hub for Islamic finance – but what exactly is it?

Ireland has seen a massive growth in Islamic finance in recent years – but Irish banks still don’t offer Islamic banking to Ireland’s Muslims.

A man prepares to pray in the Dublin Mosque on South Circular Road
A man prepares to pray in the Dublin Mosque on South Circular Road
Image: Mark Stedman/Photocall Ireland

IT IS ONE of the few bright spots in the Irish financial system in recent years.

As many financial institutions across Ireland, Europe and America continue to flail in the aftermath of the economic crisis, the Middle East has emerged relatively unscathed – and ripe for pickings.

Ireland is one of many countries which has begun to look at Islamic finance as a way to help rebuild the financial services sector. Already Ireland is a base for 20 per cent of Islamic funds based outside of the Middle East, and the plan is to expand that even further.

“To someone like myself who has no particular expertise in the area, Islamic finance looks like a good fit for Ireland,” Tánaiste Eamon Gilmore told an audience during a speech last month.

But what exactly is it – and why is the Irish government so interested in it?

What is Islamic finance?

Islamic finance means that banking and financial products compliant with Sharia law. Individual interpretations of this can differ; some people can be stricter or offer more literal interpretations than others.

However the basic Islamic teaching is that paying interest on loans or overdrafts, or receiving interest on savings, is forbidden. It also rules out investing in unethical areas like gambling, weapons, alcohol, and adult entertainment.

It is forbidden to buy insurance, but there is a debate over whether credit cards are permissible.

As the Guardian put it:

In a world where financial products either generate interest or charge it, this presents numerous hurdles for Muslims attempting to find anything remotely Shariah compliant.

The global Islamic finance industry is currently valued at around €1.3 billion, and growing at a rate of 15 to 20 per cent per year.

What is the government and the financial services sector doing on this?

On a global level, the last government kicked off the attempt to make Ireland a go-to place for Islamic finance, and the current government has been doing a lot to capitalise on this.

Eamon Gilmore acknowledged last month that it is “not, perhaps, an obvious area for Ireland to develop”. However the country has brought in a number of changes.

Ireland’s tax laws and financial regulations are being adapted to be Sharia-compliant, and Enda Kenny has said he wants Dublin’s IFSC to be a ‘centre of excellence’ for Islamic finance. Meanwhile the government has also signed double-taxation agreements with a number of Islamic states, including Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and Kuwait.

How Irish banks don’t offer Islamic banking to Ireland’s Muslims

26/3/2010 Dublin Mosques

((The Dublin Mosque on the South Circular Road. Photo: Mark Stedman/Photocall Ireland)

However while the government is doing a lot to encourage Islamic finance at an international level, this isn’t filtering down to Ireland’s 49,200 Muslims.

Ireland’s two biggest banks, Bank of Ireland and AIB, both confirmed that they don’t offer Sharia-compliant personal banking to customers. This means customers who wish to bank according to their religious beliefs cannot take out mortgages, loans or have savings accounts.

“It makes a difference in how people live their lives. Muslims want to be able to do business or make large purchases like everyone else, but in a lawful way according to their belief system,” Yahya al-Hussein of the Islamic Foundation of Ireland told TheJournal.ie.

Many people don’t buy cars or houses because of it, but rent instead.

He called on the government to do something to encourage banks to offer Sharia-compliant services to the public. ”There isn’t any bank offering it for people but it is something we want to see,” said al-Hussein.

How Islamic finance is doing well for Ireland globally

Figures suggest that it may be working  for Ireland on the international stage, however.

There is currently around €2.5 billion worth of Sharia compliant funds in Ireland, according to PricewaterhouseCoopers. More surprisingly, around 20 per cent of all Sharia funds outside of the Middle East are now based in Ireland. This is still a relatively small segment of Ireland’s financial services sector – but it’s significant and it’s growing.

Last month, the CSO published the first comprehensive breakdown of Ireland’s trading partners – in order words, the countries to which Ireland sends its imports and receives its exports.

Of the top 20 countries which saw the biggest increase in trade with Ireland last year, two Arab states – United Arab Emirates and Kuwait, both of which signed double-taxation agreements with the Irish government in recent years - saw significant gains. Irish exports to Kuwait in particular boomed, rising from €63 million in 2010 to €101 million in 2011.

While it may be a small part of the Irish economy, it is growing, and according to Eamon Gilmore, an “important part of our strategy for international financial services in Ireland”. He added:

We have to think of Ireland, in the words of President Clinton, not just as a gateway to Europe, but as a gateway to the world.

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Comments (58 Comments)

  • “To someone like myself who has no particular expertise in the area, Islamic finance looks like a good fit for Ireland” – unless I’m reading this incorrectly, if you’ve no expertise how can you make such a judgement?

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    • Well I know I wouldn’t want to work for a company doing it. Nothing against Islam just the nights out would be terrible. Also it would be very easy to upset some people you would work with. Worked with a strict Christian who took offence at my life and was vocal about it.

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    • @tokidoll

      You’ve inadvertently provided a definition of a politician, :)

      ‘Unknowing but has an opinion’

      D

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  • It’s actually funny how people make a big deal over Islamic banking when our banking system started out the exact same. Catholic law also forbade interest an unethical investment but hey, throw the pope some cash and use another word and god won’t care. Now look where we are.

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    • Christians and Muslims are both idiots and that goes for all religion.Muslims are like Christians 100 years ago but I am sure sanity will get there in the end probably not in my life time.

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    • If you are on about how usury was forbidden in the bible – and hence the church in mediveal era- You got to consider if any system that would demand such is worthy…or indeed if its not intrest then what….that islamic control of the buisness. in short the selling of your freedom to overall shiria compliance..
      What is wrong with intrest as payment for loan. It is no more than one would expect, A payement for some service rendered….Exorbidant charges and exploitation can exist in any line of buisness.
      ( oh in the middle ages the church allowed that jews could do the lending for intrest as it considered they were lost souls inany event. that was their wa around the usury issue.

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    • Well it wasn’t just the Jewish community that was permitted to tag on interest on loans. Look at how European banking took off during the 1500’s. New exploration and trade opportunities meant plenty of loans being handed out, combined with corrupt popes who genuinely didn’t care if interest was charged as long as they got a cut.

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  • If paying interest on loans and overdrafts is forbidden then what’s the point in attracting it?

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    • Islamic banking appears to be about skirting around Sharia rules on interest so that clients have a clean conscience (if they don’t think too much about it) and banks can turn a profit, e.g. instead of making a monthly loan repayment with interest, the customer would pay an equivalent amount in “rent”.

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    • Paul Oh 12/05/12 #

      Exactly David. It is about calling black white, night day. Putting your fingers in your ears and going ‘lalalala’ until reality goes away.

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  • Q. Are women allowed open accounts in Sharia banks?
    A. Of course not. If Allah had wanted women to have bank accounts, he would have given them willies.

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  • Do Irish banks understand any type of banking ?

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  • I don’t understand how people can be so idiotic when it comes to subjects like Islam. The amount of fundamentalism in the Islamic world is tiny when compared to the entire Islamic population. Not every member of Islam thinks that the taliban were interpreting the Quran correctly and and not every member take Sharia Law as literally as the more fervent fundamentalists. Much like a lot of Catholics don’t think the world was built in 6 days or most Protestants are not as staunch in their beliefs as Ian Paisley.

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  • Anyone have any comments on banking? Usually some one does, but when an article on banking appears everyone is discussing religion.

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  • Why should muslims in Ireland have a different banking system to the rest of us? Its immoral to pay insurance? I hope someones checking their cars for insurance discs!

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    • It’s not a different banking system, it’s Products and services that are compatible with Islamic custom.

      You’d be able to get an Islamic mortgage too, but you’d be daft to. This is not something you’d swap your tracker mortgage for, believe me

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    • random 12/05/12 #

      Why shouldn’t they have their own banking system? If there is a demand for banking services that conform to those standards, why should people not set up businesses that satisfy that demand? I thought that was how a capitalist economy was supposed to work, and indeed it is one of capitalism’s few good points. You’ll notice they have their own shops as well, but if you want to buy cheap bulk spices or speciality middle-eastern foods they will welcome your custom regardless of your race or religion.

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    • For the same reason the middle east isnt full of irish pubs. Culturally they dont mix. Why move here from abroad if you want to live exactly as you did in your country of origin? Integrate or stay at home.

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    • Ciara the word you are looking for is assimilate, not integrate.
      Assimilation is where they become Irish, integration is where each culture learns from each other.
      Integration implies acceptance on your part, something that you clearly are not ready to do.

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  • For an irish bank to even consider implementing sharia law is the first step to a whole load of trouble. This is the same religious law that allows, and condones discipline of women. The same law that purposely favours men over women, where if a woman reports her rape, she requires twice the number of witnesses to prove the incident occurred compared to the mans defence. The same law that allows multiple marriages…stoning…public executions for adultery (where the woman got pregnant following her rape). If you want to understand this law follow Robert Spencer and his lifelong attempt to understand all things Islamic.

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    • Scaremongering.

      The bank is not implementing sharia law. It’s implementing financial contractual arrangements that still benefit the bank, but can be used by Muslims.

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    • random 12/05/12 #

      Our banks do not currently decide our laws regarding marriage, rape, or the treatment of women, and I doubt they’d have any interest in decisions about those things since they do not affect their bottom line. There is nothing wrong with them offering services that accord with Muslim views on usury. Nobody is suggesting that they discriminate against women. There is no slippery slope here.

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    • The banks aren’t considering implementing Sharia Law, it’s an article about the sharia banking and how it isn’t in use here. And to your point on Sharia law, it is barbaric when interpreted literally, but not everyone does so. Some Irish laws are influenced by the Catholic Church, which is just as bad in my opinion!

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  • Is it just me? If Sharia banking prohibits paying or recieving interest then surely the banks would be unable to make a profit and stay in business, if it were to be introduced and interest free loans and mortgages be given to muslims then Islam would quickly become the religon of Ireland. Hail Allah. On the other hand if such banking arrangements were only available to muslims then would this not descriminate against others on the grounds of religon?
    And what of the ban in investing in “unethical areas”, while it would be unfair to tar every muslim with the same brush it certainly seems reasonable to say there is a vast amount of weaponry in the muslim Middle Eastern countries, it has always been commonplace to see armed men there shooting AK47′s into the air.
    No, I think one should worship one’s god if one feels the need to do so and keep religon seperate from other aspects of day to day life, its a private issue and shouldn’t be forced into other peoples lives, the two don’t mix.

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    • It’s just you. Lots of people read up on things before coming to conclusions like: Islamic banking = free credit.

      There’s a number of arrangements but as one example:
      1. Bank buys house for you and you arrange to buy if off them in installments
      2. You pay until the sum of your installments = house value
      3. Bank calculates a predicted future value and creates mortgage arrangement for X years

      So you pay no interest but you do pay the future value of the house. So the bank is effectively waving interest in favour of gobbling up any capital appreciation you make, along with charging facility fees designed to make up a profit margin. The bank takes a hit in a falling market. So I can’t see BOI or AIB doing it in this environment :)

      Works for the Muslim because he pays no interest, but gains no capital appreciation for the duration of the deal.

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    • Paul 12/05/12 #

      By the time a mortgage is paid, well over any predicted future value is paid to the bank. Labelling the rest “administrative fees” is just rebranding the interest to turn a blind eye to the fact that you are actually paying interest.

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  • Sharia law is a brutal backward system. There is no place for it in a modern free society. Islam is much more than a religion. All cultures are not equal. Western culture is far better!

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  • It’s strange to me that certain sections of the left put themselves in the same boat as the extreme right when it comes to religion. Judging entire cultures only by its worst parts and ignoring the good within them. You people really need to think about the consequences of the message you spread. Hate and intolerance masked in noble strives for secularism is hypocrisy in the extreme. Secular constitutions and governments were developed with the purpose of protecting religious minorities not opening them up to unfettered derision. If you have problems with aspects of Islam then stick to attacking those aspects not the religion itself

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  • Great, we are still trying to extricate ourselves from the quicksand grip of church and state, and now the govt wants to change the law to accommodate people who believe in a particular deistic system. The floodgates will open then to anyone who happens to think any aspect of society doesn’t confirm to their “beliefs”. I believe that the flying spaghetti monster teaches that it is unethical to work more than 3 hours a day, twice a week and get paid less than E100,000 a year.

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  • Hi all, just a quick note. A few comments have been removed from this thread for being off-topic or containing hate speech, both of which break the Comments Policy for the site. It would be good if this discussion could stay on track. Cheers.

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  • Why was my comment deleted? Bigotry is okay, but sarcastically mocking it isn’t?

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  • Gearoid can you please tell me who is forcibly converting Muslims? Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in the world.

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    • No one, I was being sarcastic. However, the belief that Islam is backward and that Western Culture is superior is dangerous and seems to justify imperialism. For instance, I’m sure it was once said of Ireland that… “Brehon law is a brutal backward system. There is no place for it in a modern free society. Catholicism is much more than a religion. All cultures are not equal. British culture is far better”… and we all know what happened there don’t we.

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  • an ex-colleague of mine from the UK was a Muslim and was pretty serious about his religion – he told me that they are not supposed to earn interest on money deposited but they get around this by giving money to each other as a gift instead.

    He was interested in buying a house here and in investments and gambling. Muslims are clearly not all the same but some people think they are

    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/05/total-war-islam/all/1?pid=1198&viewall=true

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  • I can n’t see our domestic banks offering muslin law compliant finance anytime soon they have too many problems to be dealing with. However, maybe a credit union type set up or micro bank may actually meet the requirements.

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  • Of course Irish banks don’t understand Islamic banking, they don’t want to understand it cause they cannot make any money on it! Simples!

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  • Of course, “hub” in this instance should be translated as “tax haven.”

    Ireland; where multinationals come to wash their money and avoid paying tax where they should. Our role in the global economy is pretty shameful stuff.

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  • Well defend to the death our right to send our kids to catholic or protestant PUBLIC schools and give them welfare grants with PUBLIC money to make their communions etc… But the implication that a private financial institution independently meeting the demand for an Islamic banking option might strengthen our economy is what… Selling out?

    As for the integration…. Al Qaeda/Sinn Fein I think we have more similarities to how Islamic society is perceived globally than we are prepared to admit

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