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Gaza conflict: Fighting rages amid continued efforts to reach peace deal

Israel is pushing for a long-term solution to the crisis as attacks on both sides of the Gaza border continued overnight.

Smoke and flares of Israeli illumination rounds over the northern Gaza Strip as seen from the Israel Gaza Border in southern Israel
Smoke and flares of Israeli illumination rounds over the northern Gaza Strip as seen from the Israel Gaza Border in southern Israel
Image: Ariel Schalit/AP/Press Association Images

FIGHTING RAGED ON both sides of Gaza’s borders early today despite intensified efforts across the region to thrash out a truce to end a week of violence that has cost 136 Palestinian and five Israeli lives.

Diplomatic efforts have involved US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, UN chief Ban Ki-moon and Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi but a deal to end Israel’s offensive on rocket-firing militants in the Gaza Strip remains elusive.

The Israeli military said that during the night it had targeted more than 100 sites across the Gaza Strip, about half of them underground rocket launchers, as well as the internal security ministry and a police compound.

An army spokesman told AFP that since midnight four rockets fired from Gaza had hit southern Israel and a further two were intercepted midair.

The army confirmed its first fatality from rocket attacks yesterday, and a civilian contractor working for the defence ministry was also killed, as a longer-range missile landed near Jerusalem and one hit a building in metropolitan Tel Aviv.

Israel’s offensive, launched on November 14 with the targeted killing of a Hamas military chief, claimed the lives of 26 more Palestinians yesterday and saw saw an air strike on an eight storey building housing AFP’s Gaza City offices, causing no injuries.

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Smoke and flares of Israeli illumination rounds over the northern Gaza Strip as seen from the Israel Gaza Border in southern Israel. (AP Photo/Ariel Schalit)

‘Unwavering’

Clinton, who flew last night for talks with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Clinton, said that Washington’s commitment to Israeli security was “rock solid and unwavering.”

But she also stressed that this “is why we believe it is essential to de-escalate the situation” in the Palestinian territory.

And she indicated a truce announcement may not emerge until after she completes visits to the West Bank capital of Ramallah and Cairo for talks with Egypt’s President Morsi.

“In these days ahead, the United States will work with our partners here in Israel and across the region for an outcome that bolsters security for the peace of Israel, improves conditions for the people of Gaza and moves toward a comprehensive peace for all people of the region,” said Clinton.

Militant sources in Gaza had initially said a deal could be announced in Cairo on Tuesday night following days of Egyptian-brokered negotiations between Israel and Gaza’s Hamas rulers.

But Hamas officials said the indirect negotiations were ongoing, as an Egyptian official told AFP in Cairo that “the truce announcement is not expected tonight because we are still waiting for a response” from the Jewish state.

An Israeli diplomatic source told AFP that negotiations were ongoing.

“We are working very hard using our diplomatic channels. We are working continuously. But I cannot give you an estimated time of arrival,” at such an agreement, he said.

‘Long-term solution’

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A Palestinian pushes a burning tire during clashes with Israeli troops against Israel’s operations in Gaza Strip in the West Bank city of Hebron. (AP Photo/Nasser Shiyoukhi)

As they held late night talks in Jerusalem, Netanyahu told Clinton he was ready to agree to a “long-term solution” as long as the rocket attacks from Gaza stopped.

“If there’s a possibility of achieving a long-term solution for this problem by diplomatic means, we prefer it. But if not, I’m sure you understand that Israel will have to take every action necessary to defend its people,” he said.

A senior Hamas official told AFP in Cairo that a key sticking point was the timing of when Israel would begin easing its six-year blockade of Gaza.

“A compromise solution is for there to be agreement on lifting the siege, and that it would be implemented later at a specified time,” he said.

The strike on the building housing AFP’s Gaza City office came Tuesday night but caused no injuries.

AFP photographer Mahmud Hams, who was in the fourth-floor office at the time said at least three rockets appeared to have hit the building.

“I grabbed my cameras and left the office with the fixer and there was smoke in the hallways. We ran out of the building,” he said, indicating that smoke and a fire appeared to be coming from an office on one of the upper floors.

The Israeli military confirmed targeting the eight-storey building in Gaza City’s Rimal neighbourhood.

“We attacked the seventh storey of the building. From what we understand, Hamas had a military intelligence operations room there,” an army spokesman said.

“Warning to reporters in Gaza: Stay away from Hamas operatives and facilities. Hamas, a terrorist group, will use you as human shields,” the Israeli army’s official Twitter account said.

- © AFP, 2012

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Comments (64 Comments)

  • I have friends there and this conflict is so sad.

    I hope no more lives will be lost.

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    • When a Hamas leader was assassinated last week, the Hamas spokesman said that “he got his wish to be martyred.” With that attitude it’s hard to see any future for these people.

      The people of Gaza voted for Hamas. Bad idea to have a terrorist organisation running your country.

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    • Sounds like he was dead set on martyrdom if this story is to be believed?

      Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz reported last Friday:

      ‘Hours before Hamas strongman Ahmed Jabari was assassinated, he received the draft of a permanent truce agreement with Israel, which included mechanisms for maintaining the ceasefire in the case of a flare-up between Israel and the factions in the Gaza Strip. This, according to Israeli peace activist Gershon Baskin, who helped mediate between Israel and Hamas in the deal to release Gilad Shalit and has since then maintained a relationship with Hamas leaders…

      Baskin told Haaretz on Thursday that senior officials in Israel knew about his contacts with Hamas and Egyptian intelligence aimed at formulating the permanent truce, but nevertheless approved the assassination.

      [...]

      “He was in line to die, not an angel and not a righteous man of peace,” Baskin said of Jabari and of his feelings in the wake of the killing, “but his assassination also killed the possibility of achieving a truce.’

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    • William, one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter

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  • In all the posts, on all the articles on the Journal, not 1 of the pro-Israeli action posters has replied to, or mentioned the continued illegal land grabs.

    One person did say that in Israeli eyes, the land is there’s, so it’s okay!

    They go on and on and on about evil Hamas and the continued missiles……. But won’t discuss why Hamas are firing them in the first place.

    They call this a biased forum, another Israel, or anti semetic………

    If the Israeli governments really wanted peace, they would stop its civilians from crossing the border and building private property belonging to another people.

    Israel keep saying Hamas wants them all dead, but ignore the inhuman conditions they have forced upon the people who apparently want to kill them all!

    You can’t torture and torment an entire people, murder them and then steal their land and dignity…… then expect them to appreciate it…….

    There WILL be peace, when Israel seriously wants it

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    • I can’t understand how so many don’t see this point of view.

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    • Great post Ruairi. But I doubt that will get any straight replies out of ‘Commonsense’ and his buddies today, I expect it will be more deflection and attack. I wonder what time they clock on?

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    • We are not just pro-Israeli but pro-democracy and pro-civil liberties, something the fascist Muslin terrorists you support are not .

      Did you support Hamas Monday when they took a prisoner from his jail cell and dragged him into the public street and shot him through the head? Yesterday the same murderous thugs took six of their own people, perhaps tried by Sharia Law, and not alone shot them dead in public but dragged their naked corpses through the street tied to the back of motor bikes.

      Israel was attacked by a large proportion of the totally undemocratic and quite frankly insane Arab Muslim world and beat them. If the Arabs didn’t want to lose land they shouldn’t have tried to take Israeli land and wipe their country out.

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    • Willian – “something the fascist Muslin terrorists you support are not ”
      Who are you accusing of supporting Hamas? Does criticism of Israel imply support of Hamas?

      This ideology that you propose of “you are either with us or against us” is the path to Fascism – I have pasted the definition of Fascism below as you see like a smart guy.

      ‘Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism. Fascists seek to unify their nation based upon suprapersonal connections of ancestry and culture through a totalitarian state that seeks the mass mobilization of the national community through discipline, indoctrination, and physical training.’

      Now which state follows this definition most closely…

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    • Ben, strictly speaking a Fascist is someone who is a member of the National Fascist Party in Italy. However I think it’s acceptable to use the word to describe other political movements. You posted “a” definition, not “the” definition. Are you saying that if a party was Fascist BUT didn’t have a “Physical Training” program it’s democratic?

      Israel IS a democracy and the only one in the Middle East and therefore is not Fascist. The Irish can be said to base their claim to govern Ireland on “connections of ancestry and culture”, does that make us Fascist? Are we Fascist because we were “indoctrinated” by the Catholic Church, part of our ancestry?

      What word would you describe a world wide movement that called for the execution of those leaving the state religion, hangs homosexuals (just like the Nazis did), wants to exterminate the Jews (just like the Nazis did), abhors democracy, treats women as 2nd class citizens and wages war on all those that it regards as Kafirs or apostates? I’m all for a new word to describe these latter day Nazis.

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    • I did not invent the definition of Fascism William, I just pasted it from Wikepdia.

      Your claim – “Israel IS a democracy and the only one in the Middle East and therefore is not Fascist.”
      Well this is just a outright lie, I’m not even going to google this one and explain it to you as there are plenty of countries in the middle east that hold elections.

      But I will point out the reality of the ‘pro-democracy and pro-civil liberties’ country you are defending
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/9287715/Israeli-anti-immigration-riots-hit-African-neighbourhood-of-Tel-Aviv.html

      “The predominately black neighbourhood of Hatikva was ransacked by groups of nationalist protesters who had attended a demonstration on Wednesday night against illegal African migrants.”
      This link is from a right wing rag – so the reality is probably a lot worse for the migrants in question.

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    • “a outright lie” but you won’t explain why? Too busy?

      There are right wing parties in every country that oppose immigration. That is no reflection on Israel’s democracy. They do actually let these economic immigrants, mainly from Africa, stay at present. Anti-immigration policies are perfectly compatible with democracy. You can support limited immigration by economic migrants or right up to open borders and be either a democrat or a fascist.

      Israel is a democracy. It is regarded as the most democratic country in the Middle East. If you were a woman, say a pregnant single woman, gay, an atheist or a Muslim that had chucked his religion, which country would you be safer in?

      You’re throwing up these silly issues to try and score fake points. You’re not be honest.

      The people of Gaza would be freer if they were part of Israel. As an atheist, if I was from Gaza, I would rather be part of Israel.

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    • @William

      ‘ If the Arabs didn’t want to lose land they shouldn’t have tried to take Israeli land and wipe their country out.’

      Nice one William.
      Same with them damned Native Americans and Australian Aboriginals squatting on crown property…just who do they think they are?

      And then RESISTING our rightful claims. No manners. No respect for law and order. Bad schooling is what causes it..not enough gunpowder lessons.

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    • William – you stated that Israel is the only Democracy in the middle east and I am just pointing this out to be false. This election guide would suggest that Israel is not the only democracy: http://www.electionguide.org/region.php?ID=2

      I agree with your statement that ‘Anti-immigration policies are perfectly compatible with democracy. ‘
      But the link I sent you was of Israeli mobs going on a rampage through immigrant areas and burning them out.
      This is not an isolated incident either, the Israeli interior minister recently claimed that African Migrants – “do not even believe that this country belongs to us, to the white man.”

      A basic search of Israel and immigrants throws artilcles like this up. “Illegal migrants complain of being ‘treated like animals,’ a ‘cancer’ in Israel”
      http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/06/12/220177.html

      There are none so blind as those that do not want to see.

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    • Ben, The link you sent didn’t have anything about burning people out. In fact it was mentioned that the Israeli police were investigating whether those speaking at the rally were guilty of criminal offences, incitement to hatred. You’re trying to imply that Israel is not a democracy on the basis of a few right wing nut jobs trying to force the government to send home illegal immigrants. Nonsense.

      You’re seriously taking the p1ss if you are claiming that countries listed on your latest post are democratic; Iran (where hundreds of supporters of the opposition have been executed), Bahrain (remember the jailed doctors), Egypt (just about unless the military who control 1/3 of the economy change their minds), Saudia Arabia (real joke that place), Kuwait (Kingdom), Qatar and Jordan (where the King is the hereditary head of state The Prime Minister is appointed by the monarch) and Syria, that well known font of liberal democracy.

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  • “Israel is pushing for a long-term solution to the crisis …..”

    Then why was their first move in the escalation to assasinate the major hamas figure who was in negotiations with them for a long term ceasefire?

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    • Possibly because earlier this year a hard negotiated peace plan brought from Gaza was rebutted by Barak and Netanyahu out of hand….and witnesses to such are non-kosher. It had taken months to get agreement among different factions.

      Unless BBC Radio 4 is a propaganda wing of Hamas.

      Israel has evolved into a Spartan-style war culture; hardly surprising to anyone familiar with its origins in biblical tribal supremacism and WASP empire married to global finance through the IMF and World Bank; and dropped like a cuckoo-fledgling into the crucial resource well of modern industrial power.

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    • Israel’s long term solution to the crisis, is to eventually take all land in the West Bank and confine Palestine to just Gaza. That will survive on UN aid because they will be living under a continued political, economic & military occupation from Israel

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    • Did you not hear, Hillary Cliton has come in to save the day, she will take a completely non-biased approach to the situation – yeah right! Hillary Clinton and the rest of the ZOG machine praise people like the ultra zionist Rabbi Menachem Schneerson who believed and openly spoke about how gentiles only purpose in life is to serve Jews. Don’t expect the Palestinians to get justice any time soon. Ireland in the name of being non hypocrites should boycott and denounce the rogue state of Isreal.

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    • @Sean

      The hope was that they could get Egypt to unhook Gaza, and Jordan to adopt the West Bank shreds, and so copper-fasten the illegal takeover and complete the ethnic cleansing and displacement of the very existence of Palestine.
      For some strange reason the neighbours had more sense than to do Tel Aviv’s dirty work by proxy. Such unhelpful (see Lebanon) neighbours usually pay for non-co-operation.
      Ireland will do as its told…its part of (most of?all of?) what we are. When a serial apologist for, and rationaliser of, the continual crimes of the regime gets your Defense and Justice portfolios simultaneously(unprecedented in the state’s history)the green flag is up the imperial pole.

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  • Hamas have to stop the rockets if Israel are going to pull back.

    But Israels idea of ‘acceptable collateral damage’ is disgusting.

    Does anyone else think it’s strange how mossad are happy to assassinate anyone they want, anywhere in the world, but they need air strikes so close to home!

    Maybe if the land grabs stopped and the embargo was lifted (or even loosened) Hamas would stop the rockets and mortars.

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    • mattoid 21/11/12 #

      Agree with most of what you say, but I would imagine that its quite a bit harder for Mossad to operate undetected in the heartland of Hamas than it is anywhere else in the world

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  • Actions speak louder than words.

    When you kill civilians so frequently and without remorse, it looks less like a ‘long-term solution’ and more like a ‘final solution’.

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    • Are you referring to the Muslim terrorists or to Israel?

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    • I was referring to the armed forces of the rogue state: Israel

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    • Israel isn’t a rogue state. It’s a fully democratic state and a member of the UN. It’s also an ally of the west in it’s battle with the world wide Muslim terrorist jihad which has as it’s objective to put the world back into the middle ages.

      In my opinion supporting Muslim terrorists is no different than supporting the Gestapo. Both had/have similar aims, the genocide of the Jewish people.

      If Israel wanted to wipe out Gaza it could easily do so. It hasn’t despite non stop terrorist activity by the fanatical religious extremists and insane nutters who rule Gaza.

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    • William. It is a rogue state in my opinion, in the sense that it disregards international laws daily, including respect for the pre ’68 border. It just so happens that they have a security council ally in the US who can veto all criticisms and censures.

      Your generalisations about Muslim terrorists are facile as are your attempts to paint a black and white picture (of you’re either pro Israeli or pro fundamentalist). Of all people we should know that Hamas is doubtless a collection of factions, similar to the forces of 1916. Some are bigger than others true but they must, first and foremost, be a magnet for those opposing the illegal and vicious blockade.

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  • Isreal wont stop until they destroy Gaza city. Someone else posted this a few days ago, those who haven’t read it should. The hate some influential Israelis spew in public. Its not pretty reading.

    http://rt.com/news/israel-gaza-hamas-war-103/

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  • Why has none of yiz commented on the fact that the idf continually target the offices of the associated
    free press? And by the way Hilary Clinton doesn’t give a rats fart about the conditions in gaza . Lying b#*%h

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    • Who do you think genuinely cares more about human rights, Hilary Clinton or Hamas terrorists?

      Hamas have fired over 1,000 rockets into civilian areas, not alone randomly killing civilians, but with the full knowledge that Israel’s retaliation would result in the death of their own civilians. Muslim terrorists put no value on human life. Not on their own, not on their people’s, not on the Israelis and not on the people of London, Madrid, Bali or New York.

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    • We get it William, Hamas are a terrorist organisation. No one on the forum has declared any support for them.

      What is your opinion on Israel targeting the media centre and the fact that Hillary is only interested in the Human rights of Israelis and not Palestinians?
      A.Deflect deflect

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    • Ben “Hillary is only interested in the Human rights of Israelis and not Palestinians”.

      Evidence please?

      Hilary Clinton champions human rights throughout the world. Hamas and Muslims in general do not. It could be said that the Muslim religion/political movement is opposed to human rights on many fronts.

      Re: The media centre/Hamas communications centre, have a read of this http://tinyurl.com/crsbs5e

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    • William, over 100 Gazan civilians have been killed by the IDF in the last few days. Yet Hillary Clintons first pronouncements are about the US standing behind Israel’s ‘right to defend itself’.

      I’m usually a big fan of Hilary but this is just a green light for Israel to continue the destruction and settlement of Palestinian land.

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    • I just looked at you link William, FFS its basically an IDF press release and your using it to back up your argument? If I start posting links to Hamas press releases are you going to take them seriously?

      This first victim of war is usually truth and the IDF is just as guilty of telling lies as anyone on the Palestinian side.

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    • Israel has also bombed an AFP building in the past couple of hours, it’s almost as if they’re systematically targeting the press. Who are civilians under the law of war, btw, meaning that this is a war crime.

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    • You can tell the dastardly terrorist easily enough..

      ..he’ s always the one with the SMALL bomb.

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    • Ben, it’s (apparently) an independent news service I linked you to. If you feel there are inaccuracies in it could you point them out rather than just throw out some clichés?

      There’s always a problem with terrorists hiding behind civilians. Hamas OBVIOUSLY couldn’t care less about it’s population, in fact it glories in their deaths.

      There’s a lot of people with the birds on this issue. Put yourself in the Israelis shoes and then tell me if you would support Hamas, and opposing Israel IS supporting Hamas and Muslim terrorism/fascism?

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    • Ah here.

      So, are you saying that AFP’s offices were a Hamas installation as well? And that the family of the small child who was killed in the attack are now just delighted that he’s been martyred?

      The systematic targeting of media in Gaza is an ominous development, to say the least, as well as a war crime.

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    • Damien, the small bombs that killed 50 people in London? On the tube when the second wave of strikes failed, one dastardly terrorist on purpose stood beside a pregnant women with a child. that’s pretty dastardly.

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    • If someone is firing missiles from the midst of civilians, is Israel supposed to let them at it then?

      Here’s a report of the AFP strike. “AFP photographer Mahmud Hams, who was in the fourth-floor office at the time and was unharmed, said no AFP staff were hurt in the attack. He said at least three rockets appeared to have hit the building. The Israeli military confirmed targeting the eight-storey building in Gaza City’s Rimal neighbourhood. “We attacked the seventh storey of the building. From what we understand, Hamas had a military intelligence operations room there,” an army spokesman said. He described the strike as “surgical” and declined to give further details.”The Hamas terrorists weren’t in the media building to be interviewed. They were there to communicate with field operatives and plan attacks,” it added. “Warning to reporters in Gaza: Stay away from Hamas operatives and facilities. Hamas, a terrorist group, will use you as human shields.”

      The small child is 100% the victim of the Hamas missile attacks on Israel.

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    • @William

      And you think such heinous barbarity justifies collective punishment and the elimination of a people and their very homeland from the face of the earth?

      Thats ‘democratic civilisation’ at it finest?

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    • That’s bullsh!t, and you know it.

      It’s a deliberate targeting of the press, quite possibly so as to drive out journalists and muzzle coverage of a coming ground attack. It’s also a repeated attack on a civilian target, which is a war crime, just the same as bombing a bus.

      Face facts, they attacked that same building twice, presumably any “turrists” in the vicinity wouldn’t have hung around. Their target was the press centre and the international media.

      And you’re essentially saying that it was that kid’s fault for being in his or her house when the Israelis decided to launch high explosives at an adjoining non-military target?

      You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

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    • The child who was killed was two years old. His name was Abdulrahman Naim.

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    • Voodoo

      We can go tit for tat on this. What about Daniel Wipliech?

      The Shaar HaNegev school bus attack was a missile attack … in which Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip fired a Kornet laser-guided anti-tank missile at an Israeli school bus, killing a schoolboy. ….. … a 16-year-old boy, Daniel Wipliech, was critically injured with shrapnel wounds to the head and died from his injuries on 17 April. Another mortar barrage was timed to coincide with the arrival of the paramedics, which delayed the evacuation. The attack was condemned by the international community.

      Who was Hamas trying to kill on the bus they tried to blow up today in Tel Aviv? Apparently they were celebrating the news when it broke in Gaza today.

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    • Voodoo, what was it when Muslim terrorists slit Daniel Pearl’s throat on camera except attacking the press?

      Journalists have been warned by the IDF not to stay around Hamas terrorists or they risk getting killed. The same happens in any war or similar situation. Why not condemn Hamas for using civilians as human shields? Yesterday Hamas were firing rockets at Israel from beside a hospital.

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    • Damien, bad link.

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    • They’re both outrageous crimes and the perpetrators should be brought to justice, charged with war crimes before the ICC if needs be, as should any soldier, military or political leader who targets civilians.

      It’s quite telling how reticent you are about condemning Israel’s targeting of Palestinian civilians and the press, though.

      You do condemn it, don’t you.

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    • Voodoo, Israel is not targeting civilians or the press.

      Can you condemn Hamas firing rockets from beside hospitals and running intelligence operations from a journalist’s HQ? Did the journalists know that Hamas had infiltrated their building? If they didn’t then then Hamas used them as shields and risked their lives, if they did then they were very stupid to stay there.

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    • Coming through loud and clear, Will. When Hamas targets civilians, it’s a terrorist outrage, but when Israel does the same, it’s a tactical necessity.

      Think you’ve shown your stripes clearly enough.

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    • Israel doesn’t target civilians, Hamas and all Muslim terrorists do.

      Israel is quite entitled, in fact obliged because the state’s primary objective is to protect it’s citizens, to attack Hamas militants. If you were an Israeli citizen you would feel the same.

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    • William. There’s that bs false dichotomy again. Plenty of Israelis disagree with their government including the refusing soldiers and doubtless not all of the Gazans support Hamas.

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  • Israel and peace. Two words that look odd when put in the same sentence.

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  • Israel assisted at the birth of Hamas, as a means to undermine the PLO and PA, both secular.
    It presents a far more useful Frankenstein for their justification of the apartheid supremacy pyramid and dehumanisation of Palestinians.

    Sectarian fundamentalism suits their own vision of a racially structured, balkanised world, with themselves in their ‘chosen people’ pinnacle position.

    The superstructure for their geopolitical vision ties in with Anglo-US/NATO imperial hegemonic intent.
    The methodology is nothing novel. Britannia mastered the means to its empire sans sunset in its Irish laboratory.
    .

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  • Today, as Israel continues to attack media outlets in the Gaza strip, killing three reporters and bombing the Agence-France Press office, one has to ask whether they are doing enough to stop journalists firing rockets into Israel.

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    • Tony, why did you leave these bits in “*” out below? Were you hoping people reading your post would not know that they were not international journalists and not realise that Israel claimed they had ties to militants?

      Israeli airstrikes killed three **Palestinian** journalists in their cars on Tuesday, a Gaza health official and the head of the Hamas-run Al Aqsa TV said. Israel acknowledged targeting the men, ***claiming they had ties to militants****.

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  • I’m afraid I don’t see this happening unfortunately , a long term solution won’t happen overnight .

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  • Actually the more I think of it only a long term solution means no let up until the job is done . Someone else used such rhetoric .

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  • You can read here about Muslim terrorists attempt to blow up a bus full of civilians in Tel Aviv today here

    http://tinyurl.com/HamasAreTerrorists

    ….and many of you lot above claim Israel is targeting civilians.

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