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Israel strikes destroy Hamas government headquarters

Around 180 air strikes were carried out overnight, after Palestinian militants fired rockets at the heart of Israel on Friday, local media said.

Explosion and smoke rise following an Israeli strike in Gaza City
Explosion and smoke rise following an Israeli strike in Gaza City
Image: AP Photo/Hatem Moussa

ISRAELI STRIKES ON Gaza killed nine Palestinians and destroyed the Hamas government headquarters today as Israel called up thousands more reservists for a possible ground war.

After Palestinian militants fired rockets at the heart of Israel on Friday, around 180 air strikes were carried out overnight, Israeli television reported.

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Palestinian medics said 39 Gazans have been killed and 345 wounded since Israel launched the aerial campaign on the Palestinian enclave on Wednesday, with at least four militants among the nine people killed in the latest raids.

Since the start of its operation, the Israeli army says militants have fired more than 600 rockets over the border, of which 404 hit and 230 were intercepted by the Iron Dome defence system.

In the same period, three Israelis have been killed and 18 injured, including 10 soldiers, while the army say it has carried out more than 830 air strikes in its operation “Pillar of Defence.”

Today, four Israeli soldiers and five civilians were hurt in separate rocket attacks on the south which hit a building and a car, police and the army said.

The military said it had sealed off all main roads around Gaza and declared a closed military zone, in the latest sign it was poised to launch a first ground offensive on the Palestinian territory since December 2008-January 2009.

Overnight, the Israeli air force hit Gaza City, targeting the headquarters of prime minister Ismail Haniya and other government buildings including the interior ministry and the police compound, as well as militant training facilities and “dozens of terror sites,” a statement said.

Haniya’s Islamist government said four strikes “completely destroyed” its headquarters and that neighbouring houses were damaged. Correspondents at the scene said the building had been flattened and reduced to a pile of rubble but there were no reports of casualties.

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Air strikes on Rafah in southern Gaza killed five people and three people died in an Israeli raid on a refugee camp in central Gaza, medics said. Another man died of injuries sustained in a morning strike on Gaza City.

Saturday’s violence came as Tunisian Foreign Minister Rafik Abdessalem paid a brief solidarity visit to Gaza, a day after a similar trip by Egyptian Prime Minister Hisham Qandil.

The world must stop Israel’s “blatant aggression,” Abdessalem told AFP on his arrival in Gaza City, where he visited the ruins of the cabinet building where a day earlier Haniya had received Qandil.

The Tunisian minister called on the Arab League to act to halt the aggression as it gathers for talks in Cairo.

Also in Cairo, Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan arrived for talks with President Mohamed Morsi, who shares Islamist roots with Hamas and has vowed to stand by the people of Gaza.

Both leaders have been asked by the United States to press Hamas to stop firing rockets into Israel.

AFP correspondents in Gaza City reported a heavy bombardment in the city’s west, after raids on the Hamas police headquarters in the same area and the government’s internal security headquarters in the north.

President Barack Obama reiterated US support for Israel’s right to defend itself during a telephone call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Late on Friday, Israeli ministers approved the call-up of as many as 75,000 reservists several hours after Hamas’s military wing said it fired a rocket at Jerusalem, and another crashed into the sea off Tel Aviv.

The two rockets were the farthest Gaza militants have ever fired into Israel.

Neither caused any casualties or damage, but they sowed panic in both of the Jewish state’s main population centres, setting off warning sirens and sending people scurrying to shelters.

- © AFP, 2012

Caution advised with the following slideshow – contains some strong images

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    Relatives look at the bodies of Ali Al Mana'ama, top, Ali Darwesh, center, and Ahmad Abdujawad, Hamas militants, at the morgue of Al-Aqsa hospital in Deir Al Balah, central Gaza Strip, today. A group of Hamas militants was killed in an Israeli air strike east of Maghazi Refugee Camp early Saturday morning, Palestinian officials said. (AP Photo/Adel Hana)
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    Palestinians carry the body of Ali Al-Mana'ama, a Hamas militant, during funeral in Maghazi Refugee Camp, central Gaza Strip, today. A group of Hamas militants was killed in an Israeli air strike east of Maghazi Refugee Camp early Saturday morning, Palestinian officials said.(AP Photo/Adel Hana)
  • Israel - Palestinians

    Explosion and smoke rise following an Israeli strike in Gaza City, today. Israel bombarded the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip with more than 180 airstrikes early Saturday, the military said. The new attacks followed an unprecedented rocket strike aimed at the contested holy city of Jerusalem that raised the stakes in Israel's violent confrontation with Palestinian militants. (AP Photo/Hatem Moussa)
  • Israel - Palestinians

    Tunisian Foreign Minister Rafik Abdessalem, center, visits Gaza's Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh's demolished headquarters in Gaza City, today. Israel bombarded the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip with more than 180 airstrikes early Saturday, the military said. The new attacks followed an unprecedented rocket strike aimed at the contested holy city of Jerusalem that raised the stakes in Israel's violent confrontation with Palestinian militants. (AP Photo/Hatem Moussa)
  • Israel - Palestinians

    A broken wall-clock lays on the floor of a house that was damaged after an Israeli airstrike at Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh's office in Gaza City, today. Israel bombarded the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip with more than 180 airstrikes early Saturday, the military said, widening a blistering assault on militant operations to include the prime minister's headquarters, a police compound and a vast network of smuggling tunnels. The new attacks followed an unprecedented rocket strike aimed at the contested holy city of Jerusalem that raised the stakes in Israel's violent confrontation with Palestinian militants. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue)
  • Israel - Palestinians

    A Hamas officer inspects an unexploded Israeli missile in Gaza City, today. Israel bombarded the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip with more than 180 airstrikes early Saturday, the military said, widening a blistering assault on militant operations to include the prime minister's headquarters, a police compound and a vast network of smuggling tunnels. The new attacks followed an unprecedented rocket strike aimed at the contested holy city of Jerusalem that raised the stakes in Israel's violent confrontation with Palestinian militants. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue)
  • Israel - Palestinians

    Israeli soldiers work on their a tanks in a staging ground near the border with Gaza Strip, southern Israel today. Fierce clashes between Israeli forces and Gaza militants are continuing for the fourth day. (AP Photo/Ariel Schalit)
  • Israel - Palestinians

    Palestinian firefighters work at the scene of an Israeli air strike on a building in the Jebaliya refugee camp in the northern Gaza Strip,today. Israel's military has struck more than 800 targets in Gaza since Wednesday, as it expands a fierce air assault responding to rocket launches from the Palestinian territory. (AP Photo/Hatem Moussa)
  • Israel - Palestinians

    Israeli soldiers work on their a tanks in a staging ground near the border with Gaza Strip, southern Israel, Saturday, Nov. 17, 2012. Fierce clashes between Israeli forces and Gaza militants are continuing for the fourth day. (AP Photo/Ariel Schalit)
  • Israel - Palestinians

    Palestinians inspect the damage at Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh's office after being destroyed during an overnight Israeli airstrike in Gaza City, today. (AP Photo/Bernat Armangue)
  • Israel - Palestinians

    Israelis take cover as an air raid siren warns of incoming rockets from Gaza, next to an Iron Dome defense system in Tel Aviv, Saturday, Nov. 17, 2012. Israel bombarded the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip with nearly 200 airstrikes early Saturday, the military said, widening a blistering assault on Gaza rocket operations to include the prime minister's headquarters, a police compound and a vast network of smuggling tunnels. (AP Photo/Oded Balilty)
  • Israel - Palestinians

    Israelis take cover as an air raid siren warns of incoming rockets from Gaza as Iron Dome missile is launched in Tel Aviv, to intercept a rocket fired from Gaza, Saturday, Nov. 17, 2012. Israel bombarded the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip with nearly 200 airstrikes early Saturday, the military said, widening a blistering assault on Gaza rocket operations to include the prime minister's headquarters, a police compound and a vast network of smuggling tunnels. (AP Photo/Oded Balilty)
  • Israel - Palestinians

    An Iron Dome missile is launched in Tel Aviv, to intercept a rocket fired from Gaza, today. (AP Photo/Oded Balilty)

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  • Man’s inhumanity to Man.
    So bloody sad to see lives so blatently snuffed out,and for what ??.
    I don’t profess to know anything about the conflict other than innocent lives are being snuffed out on both sides.

  • I do not agree with Hamas but I do not agree with the genocide of gaza either! Shame on you Israel

    • The bullied has become the bully……..

    • There has never been a genocide of any Palestinians at any time. Nothing remotely comparable to the Holocaust. The Israelis drop leaflets in areas it plans to attacks, warning civilians to leave until its safe. They make thousands of calls to landlines and mobile phones, they send text messages and e-mails. All that is done to avoid a genocide, but Hamas and Islamic Jihad try to keep their civilians close to act as human shields or, if they are killed, as emotive photographs and films to inspire hate against Israel.

    • Andrew 17/11/12 #

      Denis, that is utter bullshit. I somehow doubt the BBC reporter exposed his 11-month old to shrapnel for publicity or to act as a ‘human shield’. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20340810

  • I think the US should step back and not take such a strong pro Israel stance. It will improve relations with the likes of Iran etc.

    I just think the US need to be the bigger person. I thought Obama is about change?

    • Oh boy 17/11/12 #

      @reginald i think you misunderstand.

      my comment is on the US involvement. Don’t make it a complex argument.

      See ya

    • Oh Boy,

      You want the US to step back and not take a strong pro-Israel stance. The reason the US won’t do that is that Israel is a democracy (the only one in the Middle East) with a good record in human rights. Hamas is a fanatical militant anti-democracy (it came to power through violence). If you read its Charter (available online) you’ll see that it refuses to make peace with Israel under any circumstances (‘peace talks and other negotiations are a waste of time’) and believes that the only solution to the Israel-Palestinian problem is jihad or holy war. They make life miserable for Gazans and Israelis alike, except for the rich Gazans who drive luxury cars and eat at fancy restaurants and come out to condemn Israel for creating the smallest concentration cam,p in the world. If it weren’t so serious, this would be a joke.

    • Well said Denis, although your description is unfashionable and unpopular with a lot of the anti Israel camp here it is very accurate.

    • Oh boy 17/11/12 #

      It’s hard to get this point through to you people;;

      The US should back off. Back off what is happening in the Middle East. They are not helping! Isn’t this clear to you people?

  • Just heard sirens and a loud explosion in tel aviv…about 16:40 local time..,

  • QUICK……RUN…….the Vikings are coming to take Dublin back! They have a right to that land. They weren’t the first people to settle there, they left a longtime ago……but they’re claiming it anyway……….

  • When Russia and china veto UN resolutions on Syria, they’re the bad guys. Yet when America vetoes the same resolutions on Israel, it’s perfectly acceptable. What a joke. Why, as a neutral country, do we tie ourselves to America so much? Shannon, the 54th state.

    • Maybe because the Irish have been settling in America the last 500 years and continue to immigrate in large numbers to the United States.

    • And that’s a reason to let terrorists land their military here?

    • “terrorists”. WOW.

    • Agree Johnny. It’s about time Palestine is recognized as a state in the UN.

    • You don’t think they are Kevin? Why don’t you give a little check there of countries America have attacked/invaded since WW2. Come back then with yer opinion of America, terrorists or world police

    • Israel doesn’t kill citizens by thousands, by aiming on citizens, in order to murder citizens, and not in order to protect its own citizens

    • Gavin, you write ‘It’s about time Palestine is recognized as a state in the UN.’ Where have you been? This would have happened in 1948, over 60 years ago, but the Arabs invaded Israel and lost. Even so, again and again the Israelis have offered statehood to the Palestinians, but they need the Palestinians to agree. They won’t. In 1967, the Arab League passed a resolution in Khartoum, ‘no negotiations with Israel, no recognition of Israel, and no peace with Israel’. The PLO has adopted this in their constitution, Hamas’s Charter says ‘peace talks and negotiations are a waste of time’. Every Arab country and Iran maintain this same stance. They want nothing but the destruction of Israel, possibly by using nuclear weapons. That is why there is no Palestinian state. It may be about time, but what can Israel or the UN do when the Palestinians simply refuse to make peace and work to build their own state?

    • Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas formally asked the U.N. Security Council Friday to recognize a Palestinian state. The date was Friday 23rd of September 2011. The result is due very soon. America and Israel oppose it naturally. Nice of the yanks isn’t it. I mean, after all, why should a country be recognized as a country when America doesn’t like them. Look what they’re still doing to Cuba. It’s great to see countries taking a stand against America like the central and South American countries are by excluding USA and including Cuba in economic talks

  • @Garry

    Being a democracy, doesn’t mean your right to democratically agree to bomb your neighbour.

  • The pictures coming out on twitter and Facebook of children caught up in this would break your heart.
    For what? Religion? Territory? It’s a shame and no one is doing anything to help them. Empty words from Gilmore while people die. His words bring no comfort to those left homeless, orphaned, maimed or murdered.
    It’s a shame it really is. Puts the situation here in Ireland into perspective.

  • Was watching RT France24 this morning and it showed people in Gaza packing up on supplies of food as much as they can because they are afraid of starving during this conflict… Then it showed an Israeli man packing up his family into their car to head to somewhere safer away from the rockets.. The difference between the two, the reporter said, was that the people in Gaza have no where to run and hide from the death and destruction facing them…

  • “Both leaders have been asked by the United States to press Hamas to stop firing rockets into Israel”.

    How about asking the Israelis to stop firing rockets into Gaza? To remove the blockade? To remove settlers from illegal settlements? To stop extrajudicial killings? … No. That won’t happen, because we know who always has the ear of the US President.

    There’s only two ways this can end. Either the complete destruction of Palestine, or the US stops arming Israel to the teeth.

    And yes, it is that simple.

    • Evie A 17/11/12 #

      So basically you’re saying Israel should just sit back and chill while it is being attacked? Right okay.

    • He is saying Israel needs to stop provoking gazains. Consistent land grabs and belittling the people of the region is only increasing tensions in the area. Can you imagine if Catholics were pushed across the boarder during the troubles? We would be no where near the sort of peace we have now.

    • Evie A 17/11/12 #

      You guys need to stop comparing the Israeli situation to the Irish one. They bare only cosmetic similarities.

    • the blocade was removed. the hamas gets millions of dollars every year. why dont they use it to develop tourism – gaza has beautiful shores! industry, economy, jobs, anything to make the life of its people better???

      why?so they will be get your simpathy, blame Israel for thier wrong doing, so you will allow them to wipe the only democracy in the ME, the only Jewish state in the world!!

    • Andrew 17/11/12 #

      Evie, even when there is resistance during a 40+ year brutal occupation, the occupiers are still the attackers.

  • When Israelis in the occupied territories now claim that they have to defend themselves, they are defending themselves in the sense that any military occupier has to defend itself against the population they are crushing. You can’t defend yourself when you’re militarily occupying someone else’s land. That’s not defence. Call it what you like, it’s not defence. Noam Chomsky

  • Imagine if during the troubles in the north, that the british reacted with the same force everytime a bomb went off on the british mainland, we would have no peace now, I doubt Israel has any interest in peace and now that they are deploying ground troops it looks likely to turn into another land grab by Israel, leaving palistine looking like the Warsaw ghetto, funny how the abused turns into the abuser!!!

    • The British would never react the same because America would stop them due to our strong Irish-American lobby across the USA. The U.S supports the reunification of Ireland and the Democrats adopted an official policy supporting Irish reunification.

    • “Irish-American lobby” lol. What planet do you live on?! I live in America, most Irish-Americans could give a shit about Ireland. Especially when most are only part Irish and don’t know much about it other than marking it on the US Census.

    • Don’t worry Kevin its student does a lot of spouting about things he knows little or nothing about

    • I live in the U S and
      I care very much about Ireland, speak for yourself

    • @Tony – I have honestly never heard such unintelligent political analysis, I don’t even know where to start. He claims that I am anti-Irish and anti-American. I am half-Irish/Irish born and live in America? I am constantly attacked on here for defending America and I am anti-American? Being half-Irish/Irish born of course naturally would make me “anti-Irish”? How the hell is respecting the people of Northern Ireland’s right to decide which country they would like to remain part of makes me a “Union Jack” whatever the phrase is? I mean the absurdity behind such comments. He tries to tie being Democrat with being Irish? The party bases/ideology has changed the last 60 years. Its like ever heard of Fox News? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9q6x6xNlz0. (Hear this lunatic radio host on the YouTube video ranting his anti-Irish crap because he’s not on Fox News). Has ITS Student ever seen the Irish Central polls for Irish-Americans (which really only Americans who are 1st or 2nd generation Irish-Americans that are mainly Irish or extremely attached to Ireland vote on). There is no such thing as the “Irish-American Vote”. Its’ like saying the English-American, French-American, German-American, Dutch-American, etc. vote. I am not even sure why he is posting all this stuff on an article about Hamas and Israel? The Democratic and Republican Party are both big supporters of Israel. Supporting Israel is an American stance not a party stance. American Jews vote overwhelmingly Democratic and the Kennedy’s (Democrats) were the biggest supporters of Israel in the 60s when it wasn’t so popular with many Americans due to anti-Semitism.

  • This strip of land has been fought over for the past 3000 years. From the the time of Ramases the great to the present day. The combatants may have changed and the military technology improved but very little else. If it wasn’t the Isrealies and Palestinians it would be someone else.

  • Andrew 17/11/12 #

    The Israel Government, the IDF and its US backers are not “The Jews” any more than the IRA are “The Catholics”.

  • Resel 17/11/12 #

    “man has dominated man to his injury”

  • Dislike of people on the basis of them being Jews is pure bigotry. I am anti-Zionist, I am not, and never will be, anti-Jewish.

  • @Edward

    Well said!

  • Both sides are to blame in this. Iranian backed Hamas for their rocket attacks and Israel for their treatment of the Palestinian people over the years. So pointing fingers at one side or the other is pointless.

  • Imagine if britain reacted the same way everytime a bomb had gone off on the british mainland during the troubles, we wound certainly not have the peace that we have today, but Israel have no interest in peace and now that they are deploying ground troops it looks like another land grab is on the cards, leaving Palistine looking like the Warsaw ghetto, funny how the abused sometimes goes on to be the abuser!!!

    • That was in their own country, Northern Ireland. The Irish Government played no role in the bombings of mainland Britain. So what possibly could the ROI have to answer for? Nothing.

    • I’m getting thumbed down for defending Ireland? Some of the Irish care more about Islamic terrorists than to defend their own country. And people wonder why this island has been constantly invaded/terrorized throughout history. No unity what-so-ever but tons of loyalty/support for Palestinians.

    • no kevin i think your being thumbed down for stating that NI is “their” own country.

    • Uh I would like to see Northern Ireland re-united with the Republic but the majority in the North have stated they have no intention in joining it. The IRA’s campaign in the North didn’t exactly win hearts over. Regardless of my opinion or anybody’s opinion on the subject of the North, they are politically/officially part of a separate country. I am saying that Dublin had no involvement in the bombings of mainland Britain; so why should we be “grateful”??? Would you like the Irish Government to apologize for something they had no role in what-so-ever???

    • Kevin – I doubt you would mouth off like that on the streets here: it wouldn’t go down well with people. The 6 counties were annexed from Dublin in 1922.

    • Thank you for removing Kevin’s abusive comment!

  • @anthony that would never be israel they would never do do anything like that.grow up look at the un statistics they don’t make good reading for you Israeli supporters

  • JakkiB 17/11/12 #

    I dont know much about this through my own ignorance but NOTHING will ever justify the killing of women & children, As an outsider looking in it would seem Israel wants to elimanate a whole generation of people

    • Evie A 17/11/12 #

      In no way is that justifiable, but Israel has a right to defend themselves against an aggressive terrorist organization who unfortunately choose to use human shields as psychological propaganda. It’s 2008 all over again. You cannot expect Israel to sit back and allow Hamas to attack their country.

    • Yeah but Hamas loves Jews and Palestinians didn’t support Hitler in WWII at all? From an “outsiders” point of view? Well DUH what else would a non-Israeli/Palestinian be? I wouldn’t be surprised if you were part of Palestine “Solidarity” group.

  • Ciarán you need to educate yourself on this particular subject.Like Petr and Derek have said,Zionism and Judaism are not the same.Although the Zionist’s would like people to think there was no difference!!!

    http://www.movie2k.to/Defamation-watch-movie-550404.html

  • I am sure that if the US stood back for a short while with out any backing at all for Israel things might improve. I’m also sure that the only reason the Israeli government is such a big bully is because of the backing they enjoy from the US.

  • Those Israeli soldiers are a brave bunch. They heroically fired a tank shell at some Palestinian youths playing football. What bravery!! Footballs are now considered to be offensive weapons by the Israelis. Rightly so!! A football striking an Israeli soldier could smudge his/her makeup!! Now that would be a tragedy. Israeli soldiers are very tough! Some of them can crush a grape to death with there bare hands!! One of their number has been known to crush a banana to
    Pulp with one hand. Of course they are the most moral nation in the Middle East according to bunyamin adolph Netanyahu and they have every right to defend themselves against footballing teenagers, grapes, bananas and paper tissue

    I

  • Those with opinions will have them whatever I say but for some thought NOT a picture of Israeli victum or dead or funeral , not a picture of a damaged apartment in Israel . Only tanks and soldiers. IN gaza not a single picture of a missle launch into israel . Two theories, either its a deliberate attempty to tilt the report , or that is gaza your arnt free to roam and can only publish pictures that Hamas deceid to release, As I said those with agenda will not chaige their minds , but others can ask what about the other side,,,, hundreds of rockets at south Israel tel aviv and the city of Jerusalem surely there must be some human interest story there. BOTH sides are suffereing BOTH sides are getting killed, and BOTH SIDES NEED TO SIT DOWN AND TALK, because this is the only way any conflict was ever solved .Looking for sanity and mutual recognition of right two countries Israel and Palestine , living beside each other , in peace ,,, once that happens then we can work on friendship

    • Aoife Barry 17/11/12 #

      Just to clarify – the wire service did not have any photos of Israel today, if they did I would of course have added them in. I’ll be checking later to see if there are any new Israeli pics and will add them in if they are there.
      Aoife

    • look at y net you will get as many as you need
      you can get funerals from yesterday Just done a search of google Israel casualties 48 hours and you should have no problem getting pictures / BOTH sides are bleeding and suffering

    • Aoife Barry 17/11/12 #

      Hi Ehud – as you can appreciate, I can’t just take any photos from the internet. I went and checked again as I promised and in the last little while some photos from Israel have appeared in our wire service. They are now in the slideshow and more will be added as they appear.
      Thanks
      Aoife

    • Ehud,

      Más rud é nach bhfuil tú liom é, ná léamh.

      Slán!

  • Colm read Kevin’s post again and have a think about it. Noam Chomsky is jewish. Noam Chomsky knows more about the situation than you do. Noam Chomsky is smarter than you.

    “When Israelis in the occupied territories now claim that they have to defend themselves, they are defending themselves in the sense that any military occupier has to defend itself against the population they are crushing. You can’t defend yourself when you’re militarily occupying someone else’s land. That’s not defence. Call it what you like, it’s not defence”

  • @ Anthony Bartley

    You mean like these guys?

    http://www.dci-pal.org/english/display.cfm?DocId=1714&CategoryId=1

  • @ Stephen Murray : Judaism is not a race.“anti-Zionism” can often by a PC term to avoid looking racist”.Clearly you haven’t got a clue WTF you are talking about.Just stirring the pot it would seem!!!

    “Judaism is not a race because Jews do not share one common ancestry. For instance, Ashkenazi Jews and Sephardic Jews are both “Jewish.” However, whereas Ashkenazi Jews often hail from Europe, Sephardic Jews often hail from the Middle East. People of many different races have become Jewish over the centuries.”

    http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

  • Please explain to me the logic of Palestinian action when you launch rockets at an enemy whom you know will retaliate 10 fold but you still launch from populated areas,placing your own people at risk,putting your own flesh and blood in the firing line!!How can this be sanctified by you western Hamas supporters..When they are sanctioning Placing noncombatants in a war…If ya want to launch rockets do so..from a non populated area..not beside a creche or hospital…or is that sinister ploy on Hamas behalf??At least the Israelis build shelters for their people..Does Hamas??

    • No Hamas don’t because israel don’t allow cement and concrete in as well as other medical supplies.

    • Evie A 17/11/12 #

      Thank you thank you thank you. Finally some logic.

    • Evie A 17/11/12 #

      Yet some how they have a steady supply of rockets? Wake up. Perhaps if Hamas prioritized their population’s rights over contrived blood thirst for the Jewish state they wouldn’t look like the victims that they certainly are not.

    • launching from a creche or hospital? Your either quite stupid, or intentionally misleading viewers.

      Firstly, they’re NOT launching rockets from beside creche, hospitals or mosques. They launch from waste land that USED to be a creche, hospital or family home. But the Israeli war machine blew them up.

      What would you do? Your land is being stolen before your eyes. the thief has bigger guns and even bigger friends. Said bigger friend is holding back the world so the thief can continue unopposed! Your only ally is a nutjob who hates the thief even more than you.

      You throw a stone, they shoot you.
      you launch a mortar, they fire a missle.
      you launch a rocket, they drop a 1500lb bomb
      you launch a bigger rocket, hit something and a 100, 000 strong army come in, destroy everything and use cluster bombs on civilian areas.

      The Irish tried to get the Germans to invade Ireland during ww1 such was the desperation for freedom.

      Ask yourself, if you lived in Palestinian, what would you do?

  • “We love death more than you love life!” This attitude does not resonate to the Western mind-set but to the Muslim it has echoed down the ages from a seventh century Islamic commander who threatened enemies with “an army of men that love death as you love life.” – How in heck do you deal with a mentality like that!! – Rene

  • Genetically those Jewish groups have largely retained their Levant heritage. Obviously like a lot of diaspora groups they have mixed with different groups but they have remained Levantine Semitic enough to be close genetic relatives of the Palestinians to the present day.

  • Would you care to back up these “facts”

  • There has been over 600 rockets fired into Israel since Wednesday, from Palestine, that’s reason enough for me. They asked for it, they knew Israel would respond.

    • I would say the illegal occupation and settlement of Palestinian territory by Israel, the drone strikes and the literal siege situation caused by the Israeli blockade would be more than enough justification for retaliation strikes. Israel isn’t just some innocent bystander who Hamas are shooting rockets at for the fun of it.

  • Listen lads.the only democratic State in the region is Israel and as such has formal recognition from the United Nations. Surrounded by fundamentalist Islamic Countries bent on its destruction we must agree that jt has the right to defend itself from hundreds of missiles fired at its civilian populations weekly and the idea that it should be wiped from the face of the Earth.
    Anyone suggesting that the current behavior of Hamas is anything other than pure terrorism is deluded or short a few brain cells. Funny that the Extreme Left in this country race to the defense of the Palestinians as if their politics have something to do with Socialism and it’s long term lost cause.
    Both sides in this conflict will have to resolve their issues without external influences other than bullying each to the negotiating table.

  • Evie A 17/11/12 #

    Can’t stand reading some of this stuff. Would you rather be governed by Hamas or the Israeli state? Yeh.

    • I can’t believe you suggested the choice is between Hamas and Israel. eh? what about being independent state? maybe if the US stopped using their veto in the UN against Palestine being recognized we would be further down the road to a peaceful resolution. The vast majority of the UN want to give them recognition

    • Evie,

      I’d rather be free

    • Gavin, if the Palestinians stopped launching rockets into Israel, I would then agree with you that Israel and the US should support an independent Palestinian state. There will not be peace until Hamas, like the PLO before it, rejects its current notion that Israel must be erased off the map.

    • … and if the Israeli government stopped supporting illegal settlements and land grabs then maybe I would be willing to look at the situation again.

    • Against Hamas rockets, the Israelis can afford to not do anything about the settlements from their strong position. There is no point conceding land when you have no promise of peace from the opposite side. The Israelis pulled out of Gaza in 2005 and what do they get? Intensified rocket attacks.

  • Andrew 17/11/12 #

    Total fatalities in the history of rocket and mortar attacks
    from Gaza into Israel: 26
    These numbers come from, but are not limited to: the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Israeli Prime Minister’s Office, the Israel Project, the Jerusaelm Post, B’Tselem, and numerous press articles. All official Israeli and pro-Israeli sources, which have then been cross-checked with one another.

    But of course that’s not what the IDF claims: http://mondoweiss.net/2012/11/dissecting-idf-propaganda-the-numbers-behind-the-rocket-attacks.html

    UN Figures over past 10 years
    “Deaths including but not limited to Rocket Attacks”:
    Palestinians killed by Israelis in last 10 yrs: 3,434.
    Israelis by Palestinians 78.
    Figures from UN “OCHA-oPt casualties database from May 2003″ http://t.co/o2QCvDwE
    Does not include latest massacre numbers which will obviously make it worse.

  • Israel has the right to defend its people and its border and it frustrates me how anti Semitic Ireland is. Shame On the Irish for supporting the real terrorists here Hamas. Israel wants peace it is the Arab nations that want Israeli genocide wake up Ireland and get the facts. Imagine Hamas had the weapons. Would Israel still exist ?

    • Colm read Kevin’s post again and have a think about it. Noam Chomsky is jewish. Noam Chomsky knows more about the situation than you do. Noam Chomsky is smarter than you.

      “When Israelis in the occupied territories now claim that they have to defend themselves, they are defending themselves in the sense that any military occupier has to defend itself against the population they are crushing. You can’t defend yourself when you’re militarily occupying someone else’s land. That’s not defence. Call it what you like, it’s not defence”

    • I’m sorry but actively targeting people and drone striking them on foreign soil is not a defensive attack. Israel continues to provoke the other side and will obviously suffer from retaliation.

    • Colm,

      which border do the Israelis have a right to defend? It keeps moving.

      and by the way, I am not anti-Semitic. I’m anti war. anti oppression and therefore anti Israeli..careful with the ‘anti-Semitic’ card. it’s SO overused it’s about as valid as a punt note

    • Israel don’t want peace they want the Arabs gone.i don’t like Barack Obama am I therefor anti black?why is if anyone don’t agree with Israel there anti Semitic?sure even Vincent Browne is accused of it now.Israel is a cancer in this world not Jews Israel.

  • The pro-Palestinian stance of Irish people is just as blatant as the American support for Israel. With all due respect, hamas started this incident by firing rockets into Israel, they provoked a response and are therefore responsible for the destruction of life that has just taken place. They are screwing their own people with their pointless violence. It’s not like they didn’t know what would happen to the people of Gaza, they just don’t care.

    • Yeah, it’s odd that Irish people tend to side with the colonised and not the coloniser. I wonder what would have influenced us to think that way!

    • Aisling,

      With all due respect, Israeli started it with land grabs. Hamas, while I doubt agree with their methods, are resisting an invader

    • Are you actually Irish, Petr?

      So you think it is healthy for us Irish to project our narrative onto another distant conflict with different combatants? According to that logic, we can find such coloniser-colonised parallels with the Jews as well and support them. Drop the western sociology nonsense and stop seeing the Arabs as the perfect victims. Had the Arabs accepted partition in 1947 the post-1967 occupied territories would not be under Israeli control.

  • Edward, ‘they took there land by force’. Apart from your terrible spelling, what does this mean? Israel was founded years after the League of Nations established a mandate there to create two states for Jews and Arabs. Other mandates were Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon, all of which became independent states. Jordan was originally part of the British Palestine Mandate, but was quickly created by the British. In 1947, the United Nations voted by a majority to divide ‘Palestine’ and give one part to the Jews and the other to the Arabs. The whole thing had originally been Southern Syria, and all Arabs until 1947 regarded themselves as Syrians. In 1948, on the day the British Mandate ended, Israel proclaimed its independence. On that day, the Arabs sent six major armies from Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon to invade Israel and destroy the new state. Now, who stole whose land, please? Now, ‘your’ is not spelt ‘ur’, ‘you is not spelt ‘u’, ‘God’s’ is not spelt ‘god’ ‘Their’ is not spelt ‘there’. And you need some capital letters at the start of your sentences.

  • dont show onsided picture of the events! show how children arz running for shelter all over Israel, how people stay for days in shelter, the hundreds of missiles dropping on Israel.

    • Must be nice to have a shelter to run too! Because of the blockade, children in gaza have nowhere to run too

    • Andrew 17/11/12 #

      One-sided pictures of events? You do realise that’s all we ever get in in the mainstream media? We never heard the Palestinian side.

      Do you realise that in the Mainstream media, Israel ‘were six times as likely to be presented as “retaliating”‘ by media ‘than were the Palestinians’.
      Do the math on that one. The Mainstream Media is always supportive of Israel, the US, UK.

      From Medialens.org ( http://goo.gl/bffro)

      “On November 16, Israel was reported to have hit 150 sites in Gaza the previous night, with 450 strikes in total. And yet the main BBC headline that morning read: ‘Egypt PM arrives for Gaza mission.’ What would the BBC headline have been if 450 targets in Tel Aviv had been hit by F-16 bombs, drone missiles and artillery?”

    • Andrew 17/11/12 #

      One-sided pictures of events? You do realise that’s all we ever get in in the mainstream media? We never hear the Palestinian side.

      Do you realise that in the Mainstream media, Israel ‘were six times as likely to be presented as “retaliating”‘ by media ‘than were the Palestinians’.
      Do the math on that one. The Mainstream Media is always supportive of Israel, the US, UK.

      From Medialens.org ( http://goo.gl/bffro)

      “On November 16, Israel was reported to have hit 150 sites in Gaza the previous night, with 450 strikes in total. And yet the main BBC headline that morning read: ‘Egypt PM arrives for Gaza mission.’ What would the BBC headline have been if 450 targets in Tel Aviv had been hit by F-16 bombs, drone missiles and artillery?”

    • Ruairi why don’t Hamas let the people shelter in all the tunnels they have running under the boarder to Egypt or their own shelters?

  • Once again, I’ve made the mistake of reading the comments on a Journal.ie article. The usual hatred for Israel at a time that it needs the support the most!!!! I’m not going to waste my breath trying to educate you ignorant people who blatantly support terrorism in the shape of Hamas. Israel defends it’s people. Hamas uses it’s people as defence (i.e. human shields). Thank you to the very few, more educated people here who have spoken sense in defence of Israel and Aoife… thank you for taking note about the lack of footage from the Israeli side and rectifying this.

  • in Israel: 300 missiles fell, 3 people killed, 1 child severly wounded 1baby wounded, 1.5 people living on a bomb shelter, doesn’t woth publicizing? I wounder why

  • To Edward Carr : the biggest terrorists are the ones who hide behind civilians , i.e. innocent children etc

  • While it is possible to be anti-Zionist without hating Jews (though you would have to consistently anti-nationalist enough to also find faults with Palestinian nationalism). If you have a problem with Zionism but support Palestinian nationalism there is obviously something else motivating these Islamists and their lefty admirers.

    As I have seen with comments on thejournal.ie and elsewhere on the net, “anti-Zionism” can often by a PC term to avoid looking racist, the same way “anti-semitism” was invented by 19th century German Jew haters to find a PC alternative to “Judenhass”.

  • Yeah Barack, lets stay out of this. Too much to take care of at home !

  • To create a shelter you dig a hole then cover it….no concrete needed then again as previously stated if you launch an attack using your own people as cover placing your own people as the bulwark for defence you are craven…fight face to face not behind mothers skirts or childrens bodies!!!

    • Have you any idea how powerful even a simple dumb 500lb bomb is? Your simple little hole in the ground would be a death sentence to even the lightest ordinance the Israelis have.

  • How come so many commenters here don’t know right from wrong, don’t know the Israelis are the good guys and the Islamists, Hamas not only want to obliterate Israel but wish all of us non muslims either dead or converted to their death cult, islam? Shame on those that would appease our enemies.

    • Jonathan…..where do you get this crap? Fox News? If you want to comment on Islam, read the Qur’an. But don’t spew typical fox news bs about Islam wanting to kill everyone. Every single person who read your comment is a little bit more stupid because if it.

      How about this……

      Every Irish person is a drunk paedophile terrorist who blows up English pubs, is incestuous on a good day and a wife beater on a bad day.

      Now I make as much sense as you…

  • @shani the Irish people do not support terrorist Israel so go comment on another site .

  • Ba chóir go Eamon Gilmore onóir a thiomantas chun cosc a chur ar allmhairí ó lonnaíochtaí áitithe Iosraelach i rith Uachtaránacht an AE.