Smiley
The real perpetrators include your parent and grand parents since many of the survivors were put into the Laundries by Mums and Dads and in any case we are all responsible since everybody knew and accepted this incarceration of women down through the years. I’m in my sixties and heard my parents talk openly about these places so lets not scapegoat the nuns.

Richard. It was the nuns who inflicted the abuse, not the parents et al who sent their daughters there. The nuns deserve to be scapegoated as does the organisation that supported them, that is the church and the Vatican.

smiley rogers is a goverment stooge.

Rogers no ones gran-parents are to blame your not even to blame, the church was a very powerful establishment, yes your generation made mistakes, giving too much power to establishments. The church used scare tactics and church and state were all the one back then. Mag laundries, church and state to blame. The state were involved in sending 25% of these women in to these places, but they were responsible for the overseeing of these laundries and sending the guards out to search and return any of these slaves that escaped. They were in a prison. They had the power to stop them but they didn’t. The ordinary citizen of Ireland were so in awe of the church, they were scared to say anything against the church, it was a totally different society to live in and if you are in your 60s you should no that. Enda Kenny in government since 1975 when these laundries were running at full capacity I’m sure. Has the cheek not to apologise because he might have to pay a lot of money, no matter what the consequences these women deserved an immediate apology not bing forced into telling their horrific story again. Anyone with morals would have apologised, even if an apology did mean compensation don’t they deserve every penny and more. Higgins the poet deserves a quarter of a million a year. Enda €200,000 = close to the president of USA maybe more, these people have some arrogance and sense of entitlement.

Have to agree with you there, survivors of the industrial schools redress scheme where given 12.4 million to be given out in training and education as part of the overall compensation package.

The person who oversee’s the use and distribution of this fund has pulled in over 70k a year for the past 11+ years, all of which was taken out of the 12.4 million, that’s close to 800,000 euro.

hopefully what these women get in redress will remain theirs.

They have now closed this eductional fund and the new one has not been set up and nobody knows when this will be. If the allocated money in the new fund is not spent in a certain timeframe it will then be taken to. Build the new children’s hospital. Robbing the survivors twice. This government is beneath contempt

We expected him to apologise two weeks ago when he read the report . It is too late now , I would tell him to shove his apology. The thing is I am sure that these ladies already know that they have right , justice and morality on their side and the people feel their sorrow too. I am amazed at two things. 1) that kenny did not apologise . 2) THAT deal came about the next night by sheer coincidence Code Red was leaked.
Now the cynic in me might link the two so they that through media attention each would some what cancel the other out . I don’t think so .
These ladies are due their rights. Rights to wages owed , to pension rights .

I’m going to presume the ‘red thumbs’ for my comment come from individuals more interested in the perception of their party rather than the experiences of the people that party is suppose to represent.

In my case your going to presume incorrectly.
The Taoiseach commissioned Senator McAleese to prepare and write the Report. It contains a huge amount do data and over one thousand pages of material and people like Mary Lou ( typically) openly demanded that Kenny comment on it and apologise even before he had read it.
Quite correctly the Survivors now admit that the Taoiseach was sensible not to prejudge the contents before he apologized as it would have been meaningless. He next met with those Survivors in both Dublin and London in the company of his Minister for Justice Mr Shatter and gave considerable time to hearing their stories first hand in order that any apology he ultimately made would be meaningful and sincere.
You simply brush all of these facts aside as if they never happened or are irrelevant and smear the man dishonestly and unruly. Why would you do that under a 1916 flag as if you had spent the entirety of the Rising in the GPO …l think it smacks of children playing mummies and daddies and Sinn Fein pretending they’re old soldiers and heroes !

When the report was released the dogs in the street knew that the State owed these women an apology. I’m not interested in the choreographed dance he did afterwards to try regain some political credibility. Ask yourself how can the Government have read and prepared statements on every other report that is made, even on reports and emergency ‘overnight’ legislation, and not on this one? And then consider our neighbours who, for example, were able to offer an apology the day the Bloody Sunday report was released. If as you say, the Government weren’t prepared to apologise, then why weren’t they prepared? They could have read the report beforehand, met with the woman at any time beforehand. He could have done something instead of this blundering along and prolonging the negative experiences of these women; and of our State whereby the majority of the people want to say sorry.

As for your distracting and desperate comment about my avatar, well it doesn’t merit response except to say that I have no connection or affiliation with ANY of our current politicians.

I agree with Richard. How about Mary Lou demanding that Gerry Adams apologizes for his time spent with the IRA?

@Declan How about we don’t distract from this story and not try to take it on an unrelated tangent? These women, and this issue, deserves more respect than that.

1916, I agree. I’ve said it before. Read the report. Let’s hear from the survivors. An apology and compensation is needed. Everyone else shut up. I’m sick of reading about the mock outrage from people who were not affected by the magdalene laundries.
So I repeat- lets only hear from the victims!

By that logic people can’t follow a premiership team because they’ve never played professionally, or like music because they’ve never played in a famous band…or criticise politicians because they’ve never been elected. People on here are not saying they experienced the laundries or even understand what it was like, my point was related to our Government’s terrible response to the woman’s experiences. We can of course hold or political representatives to account when they do not represent the will of the people. On this issue the majority of people wanted our Government to apologise. Now Enda Kenny has managed to embroil himself in part of the story instead of representing what ordinary people wanted.
I feel I’ve made my point, and I do not want to become part of a discussion that detracts from what should have been done when the report came out, so I won’t be making any more comments on this thread.

So true.