Well said Meabh. This is about how the survivors feel about the meeting, they are happy with how it went and that is what is important.

I think Meabh your right but looking at the bigger picture i think your last line of comment says it all.Irish people have been shamed Internationally with this Savita Banks and remember their was alot more people thrown into mental institutions and industrial schools that have being forgotten about.The survivors are happy and thats great but the wider picture tells a different story .Hoping to receive something from a figurehead of a Institution that caused so much harm does not bring us near where alot of people want Total transparency of why all this was allowed to happen and who really is to blame.Some nuns i dont think so it goes alot higher glossed over in report.100% of Irish people support the survivors .

Declan, i dont think anyone is complaining about Kenny meeting some of the survivors… everyone who thinks normally, agrees it was the right thing to do, and is good for the survivors. This is evidenced by the lack of red thumbs for the comments that simply state that the survivors are finally starting to get somewhere.

The red comments are for comments that seem to suggest that Kenny is great for doing the right thing, after the public backlash, due to his initial mess up on his non-existent apology right from the outset. Big difference.
Kenny/Gilmore and the ministers had almost 10 years to get their response right. They didnt need another 2 weeks to say the right thing.
The fact that Kenny met them today, is a good thing. No-one is arguing that.

Cal, no one is complaining?! Read the comments above!

Declan, your comment is the one that stands out about the most in relation to negativity .. just an observation, and possibly constructive feedback to your good self.
I have only read one comment on the thread so far, complaining about the meeting itself taking place, and i think it was more of a tongue in cheek comment, rather than a serious one.
99% of the Irish people will breath a sigh of relief that there is a positive message coming from the survivor group today that met with the Taoiseach.
I am also sure that the people of Ireland (for the most part) would also agree that Enda Kenny and the entire Government made a total shambles of handling this matter last week, when Seanator McAleeses report was published to the public.
There was nothing new in that report, that wasn’t widely known (and i will refer to Alan Shatters passioned statement in the Dail in 2009 to back up my input).
Again, i will say, After the publication of the report last week, this meeting is probably the second ‘Good’ day for the survivors…
Lets just make sure there are no more bad days for them. Lets hope that Kenny and co, have finally got behind the survicors, instead of standing in front of them as a road block.
I hope you agree with my sentiments.

@ Cal
’99% of the Irish people will breath a sigh of relief that there is a positive message coming from the survivor group today that met with the Taoiseach’

Don’t kid yourself. 99% of iriah people have a lot more to worry about . Like the Savita incident it’s a nine day wonder. We move on

Not quite, they haven’t got an apology yet, jees Patrick it would be wise to read the article before commenting.

So the Magdalene survivors are “absolutely delighted”, but Ryan’O isn’t?…

Of course I’m happy for them, I’ll be even happier when they receive some compensation for all the work…sorry unpaid slavery they were made do. The point I was making was that Enda has yet to formally apologise, but yes men on here jump at every opportunity to boost his ego. Simply pointing out the obvious.

Ryan
I don’t believe anything would make you happy Ryan unless you are able to constantly whinge and whine about everything the present Government do. You need to recall that the McAleese Report was commissioned by the current Taoiseach who wisely chose not to offer any comment on its contents until two matters were resolved. The first was that he read the circa one thousand pages ( remember that silly lady Mary Lou demanded he make his views known without doing so ) and the second was that he met with the victims of the Magdalene Laundries.
You also need to know that every adult in this State was responsible for this debacle in our history because we all knew and a very substantial proportion of the imprisoned were placed their by their own families. Never Ryan have I heard you offer a criticism of ourselves. That would be toomdifficult for you because that would mean criticizing your own crowd wouldn’t it?

Patrick, stop complaining about complainers…

And you Cal are complaining about me complaining about complainers – which I do not mind.

Haa haa … i wasn’t complaining, i was making an observation :P
And there was more than a little irony in both our comments ;)

I don’t believe the nuns made no money from this slave labour, yet the report says so

He couldn’t find evidence Dermot. Like you or i, i reckon he knows too that they made money, but he can’t prove it.

The state will have to compensate but the big issue facing them now is how their going to engage the RCC and apportion and extract compensation from the religious on behalf of the victims. We’ve seen in the past that the church doesn’t like to pay compensation. Good luck with that government ! Please don’t sell the victims out and f€&k it up like Michael Woods.

Joe
Don’t refer to your betters in such a disrespectful way.

Why? It’s what they wanted and it’s the very least of what they’re entitled to from the state.

Leonard that’s a choice, surely, for the survivors to make, not you or me

True Dermot true

Yup. Just you. :-/

Fair enough.Next time i inflict misery on someone it will be on my term before i say sorry, because that’s what im seeing here but thats just me again .Ireland truely is a strange country who sets great examples.Indeed.

still control of the little people, if it had not been brought to light by the daughter of one of the Magies, would any one, any one at all have taken it this far? I wish I could believe they would have , I have known about the Laundry’s for over 50 years, Ireland has always good at talking the talk ,not so good at the walking the walk !!!

no its not just you !!!! there is a smell to the whole thing !!!!!!