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Religious orders offer apology for abuse in Magdalene Laundries

The four orders whose Laundries were investigated in the report express regret for the abuse uncovered there.

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Updated, 20:43

THE FOUR religious orders which ran Magdalene Laundries investigated in the independent report published today have issued statements apologising for the abuse uncovered there.

The Sisters of Our Lady of Charity, the Congregation of the Sisters of Mercy, the Religious Sisters of Charity and the Good Shepherd Sisters all apologised after the independent report formally found evidence of major abuses in their institutions.

The Sisters of Our Lady of Charity, which ran two Laundries in Drumcondra and Seán McDermott Street in Dublin, said it was “with deep regret that we acknowledge that there are women who did not experience our refuge as a place of protection and care”.

“Further, it is with sorrow and sadness that we recognise that for many of those who spoke to the Inquiry that their time in a refuge is associated with anxiety, distress, loneliness, isolation, pain and confusion and much more,” it said.

The order said it had always been its intention “to offer refuge to women in need”, and acknowledged that many who ended up in its care were there through no choice of their own.

We hope that this Report gives all women who lived in refuges and worked in laundries a sense that they have been heard, believed and are not forgotten.

The Congregation of the Sisters of Mercy which ran laundries in Galway and Dún Laoghaire said it ‘fully acknowledged’ the “limitations of the car which could be provided” in their Homes.

“We wish that we could have done more and that it could have been different,” it said. “It is regrettable that the Magdalene Homes had to exist at all.”

It added, however, that while times and conditions were often harsh and difficult, “some very supportive, lifelong friendships emerged and were sustained for several decades” – and that when its last home in Galway closed in 1984, many who resided there remained voluntarily in the care of the congregation for the rest of their lives.

“We would like to extend an invitation to anyone who may have spent some time in either Dún Laoghaire or Galway to come and meet with us, if they so wish,” it said.

The Good Shepherd Sisters – which ran four of the Laundries, including one in Waterford which did not close until 1996 – said it was “part of the system and the culture of the time”.

“We acted in good faith providing a refuge and we sincerely regret that women could have experienced hurt and hardship during their time with us,” it said.

It saddens us deeply to hear that time spent with us, often as part of a wider difficult experience, has had such a traumatic impact on the lives of these women.

Referring to the report’s finding that many women were not given information about why they had been sent to a Laundry, the group said it often did not have this information itself.

“However, this should not have happened and we fully understand how wrong and upsetting this must have been,” they said.

The Religious Sisters of Charity said they apologised “unreservedly” to any woman “who experienced hurt while in our care”.

“In good faith we provided refuge for women at our Magdalen Homes in Donnybrook and Peacock Lane. Some of the women spent a short time with us; some left, returned and left again and some still live with us.”

All four of the orders thanked the committee, chaired by former senator Martin McAleese, for their research and commitment to their task.

The Conference of Religious of Ireland (CORI), an umbrella group for religious institutes in Ireland which was not directly involved in the running of Laundries, said the Magdalene issue “was and is not just about religious, but also involved many other strands of Irish society”.

It represents a sad, dark and complex story, especially for the women involved, many of whom were rejected, isolated and hurt by a system, which failed to respond with empathy to their various needs.

CORI described the Laundries as “an inherited service and system widely used throughout Europe and elsewhere at that time”.

“This care system, designed essentially for women who were destitute, was basic and inadequate when viewed in the 2013 context, but in its time was provided in good faith.

“The laundries were the principal means of support for the greater part of the history of the running of the refuges.”

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Comments (76 Comments)

  • The reason why some stayed in ‘voluntary care of the congregation after closure’ was because these poor women were institutionalised and knew no better, I really feel for these girls and children who were sent to these cold emotionless workhouses, shame on the religious orders for their lack of compassion to these women and shame on the state for turning a blind eye, also shame on the families for putting their daughters in to these places, although not an excuse but there would have been pressure on these families from the local churches over the shame of having a child out of wedlock. Thankfully their grip has passed.

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  • Niall 05/02/13 #

    Where were the apologies before this report? They knew what was going on without the need to resort to fact finding.

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  • Wonder if the the value of those ‘receipts’ in the financials were cross-checked with the requisite ‘payments’ from the Department of Industry/other to see if the actual amounts logged were reflective of the amounts paid…Also amazed to see the submissions from the women themselves, “they taunted me, cut my hair short, but didn’t lay a finger on me”…??? Psychological abuse is worse than physical abuse, but the reports seems to suggest otherwise… that somehow, because the women didn’t suffer physical abuse like those in the Industrial Schools, that somehow that’s ok? Also, the financial statements were reviewed by an independent accounting firm, did psychologists opine on the effect the years of psychological abuse would have had on these poor women? From the attitude of some of them (the “at least they didn’t hit me” comments), it would suggest that some of them don’t realize the extent to which they were abused, are almost apologetic for it…

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    • @ Grainne Sweeney, excellent and insightful post. Imprisonment, lack of liberty, an unmercifully regime of Spartan deprivation and being terrorised even on Christmas Day had to leave a terrible trauma. Of course, the RC Church has no shortage of defenders and those who deny the reality of what happened.

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  • They’re are not apologies,they sound more like excuses you would hear dealing with some customer service rep.Disgraceful!!!

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  • Perhaps the church would like to pay the surviving wonen their wages now… With interest and reflecting inflation rates!

    Meaningless apologies without action.

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  • My mother was brought up by nuns and it’s not just Enda who should say sorry but all parties. If FF try to score points on this one,they should be met with total disgust.

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    • Really Liam ??? Funny you never made any such statements when you were a member of Fianna Fail,until you’re “unfortunate” downfall that is.Once a politician,always a politician!!!

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    • As said, my friend, This issue deserves neither personal not political pointscoring. As for me and my downfall-not that I had far, fall, you’re welcome to hear my side of that and what I said and did when there are more trivial things going on.

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    • First you said : ” If FF try to score points on this one,they should be met with total disgust.”

      Then you said : “This issue deserves neither personal not political pointscoring”

      I detest Fianna Fail and I equally detest hypocrisy and the very fact that you used this issue to attack your former party,with whom your bad blood towards,is well documented,shows you may no longer be a member of Fianna Fail but you sure have retained some their qualities.Interesting Liam,some habits die hard!!!

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    • Let’s leave it to another day my friend and we can have a factual chat,about,the conclusions you have come to about me. I would just ask you to accept that my strong opinions on this issue should be taken on their face value.

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    • What conclusions Liam ??? That you took advantage of a disgraceful and shameful chapter of our history to have a go at your former party,here ??? Or how about the laughable situation we now find ourselves in,with you “now” trying to take the moral high ground after the fact ???

      I do agree with you,that is not beyond “Fianna Fail to try and score points on this one” in the same way that your original comment shows,it’s not beyond ex members of Fianna fail to do the same either.Let’s just say that I met your comment “with total disgust”,which you in fact,called for.I just hope you can look inside,and feel some of that disgust for yourself for what you tried here this evening ???

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    • There’s no point in going on. I’ll just say that in essence you have charged me with not trying to get votes as a result of my Mothers experience. An experience that had deep consequences for my family as it had for all they families in question. Why would I make an issue of it now when I’m out of politics? As for the hypocrisy issue, my personal failings are well known but it has also been proved that hypocrisy and finger pointing are not among them. I don’t know if the name you use is a moniker or not but, if we met, I suspect our views might be more similar than you think.

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    • Liam I am only too aware you are no longer involved in politics,as you must have figured out by now,so your claim of “trying to get votes” is hilarious.

      “As for the hypocrisy issue, my personal failings are well known but it has also been proved that hypocrisy and finger pointing are not among them”

      Your original comment,proves otherwise.There was absolutely no mention of any political party in this article,it was you,who tried to make it a political issue borne out of the grudge you hold against your former party…I have to say though,Liam,I have come another conclusion based on your original comments,that either your story about your mother is untrue(if this is not the case I do,apologise to your poor mother) or that it is true and you used it to attack Fianna Fail,either way,a despicable thing to do,and you should be ashamed for doing it!!!

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    • I think you missed the point of the votes issue. None the less, partially to end the tedium of this I should have explained why I said what I said about FF. A minority of their members were on Facebook and twitter looking for ways to harm Enda on the issue. I told them very clearly why I thought they were wrong. What I said about FF on this page was a but of an emotional reaction to all of that. Again, I hope you take this on face value. Take care.

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    • I probably did miss the point,as you did not make yourself very clear here : “I’ll just say that in essence you have charged me with not trying to get votes as a result of my Mothers experience.”

      Suddenly we now have Facebook and Twitter conversions with Fianna Fail members??? Funny you have only mentioned this now,3 hours,since your original comment ??? Sorry Liam your BS and spin don’t wash me.The fact remains,you tried to score points against your former party,for your own sense of satisfying your grudge against them.You are a disgrace once again Liam!!!

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    • I have the evidence of my FB and twitter comments so no need for justification. Perhaps we should leave it at that eh? We are at risk of being self indulgent.

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    • Sadly Liam,you crossed that line of self indulgence about 4 hours ago!!!

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  • It infuriates me that it takes a report and an exposing of something we all knew went on for them to apologise.
    Mind you; its more than Enda did in the dail today and a sickening Alan shatter on sixone.

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  • So sad how these ladies were treated also shame on their families and mothers who admitted them and never fought to bring them home.

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    • i am sure there was lots of fight…but no power…when push came to shove the pulpit held sway…please dont blame the downtrodden for not fighting back..they have come this far..and the fight is not over…

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  • Surely the point is not that “abuse” may have occurred in these institutions. It’s that they existed at all. The abuse lay in incarcerating and exploiting women who did nothing wrong. And no these institutions did not “need to exist”. Shameful mealy-mouthed apologies from all concerned.

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  • All the church seems to exist for these days is to apologise. Good riddance to it…,

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  • A bit like a Lance Armstrong apology. ‘Sorry we were found out’. For their sake I hope there is a god who can strike down with vengeance upon them.

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  • They knew what was going on then and they did nothing. One of our most shameful moments as a notion and the reason I have such hostility towards the church. Too little, too late

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  • A disgusting and shameful era in Irish history. Another example of what the church is capable of when it controls the state. Our government still lends it ear to this barbaric power hungry corrupt and perverted organization aka the catholic church.
    The Government is still turning a blind eye to pedophilia,slavery and money laundering because they might offend a charlatan in a pointed hat and a dress.

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  • Time to strip the Church of all its wealth and assets, accumulated through fear and intimidation. The Irish people went from being oppressed by the British for hundreds of years to being enslaved, raped and abused by the church. The greatest weapon the church had was fear, are the church apologising for the fervent fear they spread throughout the country. the terrible guilt and SIN the people suffered under because from that came the institutions.
    The church profited from these businesses and the money was ploughed back into the church and now it’s time for the church to give back.

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  • Dissociation, disconnection, disinterest and denial. Nothing new.

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  • Reads more of like an admission that things happened that shouldn’t have than an apology

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  • This report today is a great disappointment, a whitewash – no wonder the apologies sound so hollow.

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  • We locked them up, we shaved their heads and beat them, let them work with no wages in inhuman conditions we find it hard to believe but we have to say that “with deep regret we acknowledge that there are women who did not experience our refuge as a place of protection and care”

    Yours sincerely
    Roman Catholic Church Customer Service

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  • These nuns are still abusing ‘fallen women’ today. How could you expect them to be sorry? They’d need to stop the behaviour before that could be a possibility.

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  • People who follow and believe in these organised religions are idiots and cant think for themselves, theres no beating around the bush when it comes to this kinda stuff.

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  • Sorry, “catechetical” should have been the spelling. I labour under my own illiteracy!

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  • @anthony H CATHOLICOPHOBES. For myself I would like to say: I am ashamed that my country and any other country in the World allows control over women and children to the point of making them victims from birth.
    if you would like to thrash this out ? lets rock and roll !

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  • Just like the bankers, developers, politicians, clergy, the evil nuns that ran these slave camps will get away with it. At times I wonder if Ireland hasn’t become a failed state?

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  • You can tell a lot about a state by how it treats its most vulnerable – we locked them up, threw away the key and, as if that wasn’t enough, used them as slave labour to line the pockets of an already astonishingly wealthy church.

    The fact that not one of the religious orders nor the State has given an outright and unreserved apology for the systematic abuse continuously meted in the laundries shows their utter contempt for each of the victims and the wider public.

    It would appear that you can do as you wish to the vulnerable in the “name of God” and you will never be held to account for it. All of these orders should be shut down, assets confiscated and used to compensate the survivors of Church abuse. Not that money is what the survivors want…but if it isn’t everything then the Church shouldn’t have a problem handing it over – right? They have a dwindling membership and an even greater dwindling congregation so what do they need all the buildings, land and antiquities for?

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  • The nuns are victims themselves. Wasted lives.

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    • True. The girls would have lived in fear of the nuns, the nuns lived in fear of the mother superior, she lived in fear of her god, because truly that is all the concept of heaven or hell is there for.

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  • Liberated from British rule and enslaved by Roman rule. Will we ever have a true Republic free of religious influence ? Not whilst our politicians still fear and bow to the power of Rome ?

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  • it seems that: some one voiced details of a scandal and they, the church , had to get back to the victims with some sort of comment. years and years of scandalous abuse all in the name of God.
    Its heart braking !

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  • It makes me sick to my stomach that they didn’t apology much earlier, now its not worth much… S.cumbags!

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  • As unpopular as it will sound it is most likely the vast majority of nuns actually did believe that they were doing no wrong and were helping save the souls of women in danger of damnation as they saw it. Also many nuns would have lived under the fear of divine retribution if they neglected their duty by sin of omission.
    We have to remember the times and yes it did go on in the eighties and nineties but how many nuns had this mindset from the fifties upwards?
    Not for a moment would I detract from any suffering experienced but in balance I think we often ignore the other side of the story.

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    • “Not for a moment would I detract from any suffering experienced but I just tried to detract from their suffering”

      But to answer your nonsense points:

      If the nuns believe what they were doing was the right thing than they displayed psychotic tendencies and should all be locked up and their institutions shut down for breeding such an attitude.

      They shouldn’t be part of an organisation they fear if that was the case and they should call for it’s closure.

      Ah the old ‘it was different in those times’ excuse. Get in line with the paedophiles to be told to stick your excuses where the sun don’t shine

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    • Barry 05/02/13 #

      It doesn’t hold for soldiers so it doesn’t hold for nuns and priests.

      “we were only following orders”

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    • @ Niall – an understanding of culture in the early and mid twentieth century in Ireland would show you what I mean.
      I expect abuse from people like you because any attempt at removing 100% of the blame from the Church is something you appear not to be able to hear.

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    • Oh I’m blaming the State, the families and the Irish people for being silent on this too, but the Church can take the lion’s share of the blame for this for running these hellholes.

      Oh and try to read the report, the abuse went far beyond the early to mid 20th century but I’m sure you have some other excuse for that.

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    • The start is an acceptance of the wrong done, the responsibility for the wrong done, a frank admission of blame and responsibility, no attempt to excuse, justify or to contextualise.

      Once ownership and real possession is taken of the culpability for what happened, sincerely, without equivocation and heartfelt, the mitigating factors, the milieu of he times and the contribution by others can be considered.

      When wrong is done it must be frankly and unreservedly acknowledged. Anything else is weasel words and mere damage limitation.

      It is interesting that the staunch defenders of the Roman Catholic Church orders rarely accept that wrong was done or express any real sympathy for the victims or feel any need to preface by referring to a frank admission of the wrong done. That tells us all that we need.

      Roman Catholicism lays a lot of emphasis on true contrition. By its own cathecetical standards, the Orders have fallen way short in their apology and the less said about the customer service response of CORI the better. True contrition eludes the orders.

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    • I can see Worf’s point a little bit – I always remember how the nuns who ran our secondary school would start to run round in panic any time a priest arrived – there was an extreme and horrible subservience there. I do believe that many young women were pushed into being nuns, where they were always under the control of the patriarchal church, and many must have been bitter about it. The establishment of the church however has to take full responsibility for its actions – these apologies are shocking insofar as they are not apologies at all. The church needs to be divested of all special status and pay up for all the wrong it did as an organisation in the past – why did the state do a deal with them on compensation when that institution still has plenty of wealth and property – indeed it is a multi-national with wealth and assets all over the world! They need to take responsibility and stop defending the indefensible actions of their members and staff in the past.

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    • Sorry, “catechetical” should have been the spelling. I labour under my own illiteracy! RC experts can correct me!

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    • Well put Peter.

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    • I would agree with Michelle here – I too can kind of see Worfs point. I don’t think all nuns are bad, like Michelle said some of them probably didn’t want to be there either. And some of them probably did try their best to be as decent as they could with a mother superior breathing down their neck.
      They were following orders – which is a cheap excuse in the military – but being threatened with what you have been indoctrinated to believe was your mortal soul? Hell?
      That’s perhaps a larger thing to fear, it’s how the whole religion works..

      It doesn’t excuse anything. I’m sure the decent nuns have spent the rest of their lives trying to atone for their parts in this shameful part of Ireland’s history – I wouldn’t doubt that for a second. The others, well hopefully they will be made to face their disgraceful deeds, along with anyone else responsible for these acts.

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    • They broke national and International laws . Ignorance of the law is no excuse !

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    • You cannot pardon people involved in systematic abuse by saying that some of them may have felt bad about it. At best you can call them cowards but they deserve no sympathy from us for not standing up to the abusers. You need only look to recent commemorations of Rosa Parks or Malala’s Nobel Prize nomination for inspiration on what should have been done.

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    • I’m not trying to excuse anything. There were some sadistic c@%*s in these laundries, of that there is no doubt. But there’s also some who were sent to the nunnery as teens themselves and literally knew no better.
      All I am saying is that we can’t tar the entire group with one brush, theres got to be at least a minority who knew it was wrong and felt wrong about it – and yes, they should have spoke up, but ultimately it was the people in control who hold the lions share of the blame. The ones who fostered the idea that this was in any way acceptable. And they should be getting their acts together and offering an unequivocal and flat out apology, begging the forgiveness of each of these women and their descendants.

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    • Let those nuns come out and denounce the Catholic Church in that case. The entire organisation is rotten to core, as is evidenced by the Australian child kidnapping and enslavement scandals uncovered in the 90s, by the raping of children from Holland to America and by horrors detailed today. There is no comeback for the Vatican, not even Jesus would forgive that place for what it has done, but if any surviving nuns are truly shamed let them come forward to say so by abandoning the Pope and his cohorts

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    • To be honest that’s the one thing I don’t understand – why they didn’t denounce the church, as the organisation that pushed these ideals (the idea of “fallen women”). I know of one nun who ditched the habit, she still believes in her god – but she said she didn’t feel him in the convent. I also know that there are *some* (I stress, not saying this is a large number or anything) whom the girls they worked with were fond of.
      I can believe that – I know from my own experience of nuns, some are horrid wenches but sometimes you get one who is trying to do what we are told the religion is all about, all that peace and love stuff.. Obviously these would have felt pretty out of place at a laundry, and are probably angry at themselves for not standing up – they will have to bear that on their consciences forever. And so they should. But should we call them evil too?
      There was evil there, of that there is no doubt. But it wasn’t every single one. Same way there’s some nasty sh1ts walking around as priests / bishops / cardinals / the pope. But there’s at least one or two who mean well (however misguided they may be).

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  • Rayven 05/02/13 #

    If you sin against your fellow human leave you offering at the alter go and make recompense with your brother before you come before god with your prayers. These apologies are just compounding their own hypocracy

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  • More vacuous comment from the “Religious” institutions.

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  • The Sisters of Charity apologised unreservedly in a statement they issued this afternoon.

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  • Here we go again . Most of you bigots are not concerned with the poor women whose lives have been blighted by these institutions . All you care about is catholic bashing ! A bunch of catholicophobes as I have rarely witnessed anywhere !

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    • Yes here we go again Anthony with
      Bigots like you that blindly and obediently support the oppressive regime of the RCC who created institutions like the laundries to exploit innocent defenceless women and children . Take a look into your own soul for you are no better than those who committed these horrendous crimes. Shame on you ! Shame on them !

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