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Dublin: 8 °C Thursday 23 May, 2013

Monaghan nightclub refuses tap water to patrons to discourage ‘drug use’

Vanity Nightclub says it won’t give out free water to customers as it prides itself on being a “drug free zone”.

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A MONAGHAN NIGHTCLUB is refusing patrons free tap water because management feels its supply “promotes drug use”.

Manager Seamus McEnaney said theVanity Nightclub was a “drug free zone” and that this environment was maintaned through a combination of security, music selection and water policy.

A statement outlining the club’s policy on tap water was posted on the Vanity Nightclub Facebook page yesterday, which read: “We feel encouraging free tap water usually promotes drug use within a nightclub and for this reason our club doesn’t provide it.”

Speaking to TheJournal.ie, McEnaney explained the Facebook post had been published in response to a complaint lodged by a customer after they had been refused water at the club.

“We have a very strict nightclub and – I think it’s fair to say – the club is drug free. That’s down to a combination of things – security, music choice and our water policy,” he said.

Although the water policy (which has been in place for about ten years) means that customers are not given free tap water, they can purchase “very reasonably priced” bottled water at the bar, McEnaney said.

The mineral water, sourced from a local business, is on sale for €2 per 500ml at the nightclub. A spokesperson told TheJournal.ie there was no family connection between the water supplier and the owners of the nightclub.

In response to some customer comments on Facebook which suggested the water policy would lead to customers to buy more drinks, McEnaney rejected the suggestion out of hand - and noted that bar staff could give water to patrons “if someone was sick”.

“If it’s money I wanted to save, I could drop one of the security staff – but I wouldn’t do that,” he said. “I wouldn’t drop the policy on security, music or water… it’s that combination that works”.

To those who disagree with the water policy, McEnaney said: “The club they’re coming to is a well-run one, it’s very disciplined, the music policy is good. A combination of factors make it that way; you must look at the bigger picture”.

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Comments (82 Comments)

  • Yup, no drugs here. Just good old fashion alcohol, you know, the safe stuff!

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  • I just saw my niece asking her mam for a glass of water… I’m definitely gonna get social services on the case as she’s obviously on drugs. haha, jokers!

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  • Nice excuse for blatant sharp practice there buddy. Do you charge for ice too?

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  • Selective music and no tap water to discourage drug use! There not realy selling there club to me here, sounds boring!!

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  • That is absolutely stupid. I rarely drink when I’m out and my only choices are insanely over priced soft drinks or water. I pick water because I prefer it. This place is saying the only reason to drink tap water is because you’re on drugs. Get real.

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    • Ridiculously hypocritical coming from a guy who is happy dealing much more dangerous drugs to his customers in the form of alcohol.nnI’m all in favor of him making his own rules on how much he charges for drinks on his premises, but I draw the line when he hides behind an anti-drug policy.

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    • Dave 09/08/12 #

      I thought there was a law stating all establishments that sell alcohol must give tap water out for free, or did I just pick that out of the air?

      Please someone clarify this.

      Also, this is ridiculous. Whenever I go out I drink one for one. One beer, one water and no drugs, really aids the hangover the next morning. So as someone else already said, now I’m presumed to be a drug user? Whatever, won’t be going there,

      Ever…

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    • I was talking to someone who works in catering and bar business and she says that you are supposed to by law the second I told her about this article

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    • just goes to show them in the business know nothing.

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    • Ian I might be wrong but I don’t think that’s the law. And I was a manager in this field before. There is however a definite 100% law about having running water, toilets wash hand basins etc in any food or drinks premises, and you have to close if you don’t have that. (with the exceptions of wide water outtages like we had last year) They are not obliged to have drinking water, only for their staff. In Some pubs you would not want tap water anyway. They are legally obliged to supply water, but they can charge even a service charge for tap water. Also, if it was illegal I doubt he would have got away with it for ten years.

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    • i think on the UK theres a law like that but not 100% sure, defo dont think we have one though

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  • That is by far the most stupid thing I have heard all month. “Il have some tap water, oh and now that I think about it, il have some drugs with that too”. Tap water encourages drug use! Give me a break. Money making all the way, thats punishment to those who do not drink, bottle of water and a cordial would be around 2.70ish coming close to the price of a pint for a cordial. Just dont let druggies in. Sorry for the huge rant but I think I hate that man

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  • Hold on, isn’t the local tap water in Monaghan Celtic Pure, owned and run by the McEneaney family?

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  • Easy to attack this as him just wanting people to buy more alcohol but as a former club barman the pill heads do love their pints of tap water. With that said if someone is on pills it’s actually dangerous to deny them water, could have a legal case on his hands.

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  • A pint of water and two E’s please.

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  • I don’t drink and I think this is a joke I drink a good few pints of water if out with friends and charging for it is stupid. If people are going to take drugs I don’t see them specifically asking for water to take it with.

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  • Is it not a legal requirement for a licences premisses with a dance floor over a certain size to provide drinking water free of charge?

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  • Alcohol is one of the most dangerous drugs out there and he bans tap water.

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  • Yes because everyone who drinks tap water and listens to a certain type of music must all be off their heads on drugs! Obviously there is no other reason, it wouldn’t be because they were asking for water because the club was full and they were sweating!

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  • What a gobs*te.
    Drug users may like water, but I drink pints of tap water whether I’m drinking or not. It’s kind of a basic thing with humans and water. Making people pay for a tiny bottle of water that’s probably the same quality is a load of balls; I actually assumed they had to provide tap water for free, especially if someone was sick and actually needed water.

    Drug users may like a certain type of music, but so do I. He’s making it sound like “good people” who only consume alcohol (like that’s never an issue) only like the mind numbing sh*t that gets airplay.

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  • So if your locked out of your mind on drink you can get in. But if you have a big happy head up on ya be careful you could get kicked out

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  • In England it is illegal to refuse a customer a glass of water.

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  • The children… Won’t someone PLEASE think of the children… There’s a limitless supply of a gateway drug in every kitchen in the country!!!!

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  • “We have a very strict nightclub and – I think it’s fair to say – the club is drug free.”

    Ha ha they are deluded if they think “their club is drug free”.
    Also cocaine users tend to drink more alcohol than usual,because the cocaine raises your tolerance level,just thought I would mention that.

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  • Apparently certain drugs like ecstasy, LSD, speed and some others raise your body temperature. In hot crowded venues, dancing and alcohol all dehydrating – they reckon without ample water they can become very unwell (hyperthermia).
    BUT this reason for not supplying tap water – to discourage drug use – doesn’t stand, as he is promoting the local bottled water … there are claims the owner has interests in Celtic Water. Clarification needed here.

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  • Music selection? How on earth does he manage to select what music encourages drug use or does he just enforce a blanket ban on 50% of popular music? And even then… “You’re not going to believe this Seamus, but Puff the Magic Dragon isn’t really about a magic dragon….”

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  • drug use? Whats the difference of popping a pill with water than popping a pill with an alcoholic drink? i think none. this is not to stop drug use this is to stop people having a free drink ie. water. fine if you dont wanna give your precious tap water away but dont say its because of drug use.

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    • I think you’ve misunderstood his point.

      One effect of certain pills is producing a tremendous thirst for water – users will not take pills in the pub as they will suffer huge discomfort if they can’t get loads of water.

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    • Stephen, whoever told you that was talking through their ars. I presume when you say “certain pills” you are refering to MDMA , while it has been suggested that it can cause dehydration, mainly because of the fact that when people take it and they go clubbing they tend to dance their socks off in a crowded atmosphere causing them to sweat profusely… Therefore doctors recommend drinking lots of water.
      Personally I’m not much of a dancer and don’t enjoy the clubbing scene, but I do enjoy the occasional bit of mind expansion and experiencing altered states of being but have never found that MDMA (ecstasy) to make me abnormally thirsty.
      Perhaps what the owners actually meant is that they do not wish to supply their customers with drugs, in the form of the fluoride that the powers that be seem to deem fit to lace our water supply with. Fluoride has been linked with cancer, osteoporosis and genetic damage, among other sinister effects also.

      We all deserve the right to choose what we put in our own bodys.

      F manditory medication & F hypocrisy!

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    • Sheer oportunism

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    • ps. when I referred to fluoride as a drug I was using the term loosely, trying to make a point (that has little to do with the article I admit)( but is none the less a much more important and pressing matter then whatever the proprietor of this establishment chooses to serve or not serve at his club)
      “drug” suggests that it either has some medicinal benefit or produces an enjoyable experience for the user.
      Fluoride has neither of these qualities.
      It is Poison. Plain and simple.

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    • Stephen – I’m sorry to say you are not correct! Dehydration (often the next day or even the day after) is not an immense thirst – taking a pill safely (I know, there’s no safe way…) should always include drinking water – but you don’t get amazingly thirsty! He just wants to sell water… He’s a business man… There’s nothing wrong with that… McDonalds won’t give you tap water in their restaurants… (I heard an elderly woman being refused in dublin airport the other morning!!!)

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    • Of course it’s a well known fact, if you drink tap water, your a drug user. Whereas if you pay for water, your an upstanding member of society. Absolute horsesh!t

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    • No fluoride for you, yet you’ll shovel shit pills full o’ horse tranquiliser and f%cking chalk down your hypocritical gullet. But, no tap water for you.

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    • No fluoride for you, yet you’ll shovel shit pills full o’ horse tranquiliser and f%cking chalk down your hypocritical gullet. But, no tap water for you.

      Yes G, I do drugs. Beer and Whiskey mostly and quite a bit of tobacco too. and yes, on occasion I have imbibed substances as mentioned, but not limited to the above. This includes fluoride. on a daily basis I drink water from my tap, in my tea and coffee. The difference is that I don’t particularly like being force fed something that I do not want to consume, and only do so through necessity. if I could I would have a constant supply of clean drinking water, but under my current situation and that of almost every other urban dweller in this country that is impossible while our supply continues to be contaminated consistently by the same people who tell us that we shouldn’t damage ourselves recreationally from time to time. I’m not the one forcing or even sneaking anything down anyone’s throat. And I’m not encouraging anyone to adopt my lifestyle choice, so you have absolutely no right to call my gullet hypocritical buddy!.

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    • drugs are bad mmmkay

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    • Try thinking about the difference between consensual and non-consensual sex, and perhaps you will see where I’m coming from.

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  • The restaurant during the day provides free tap water with your lunch.
    When the nite club was called Fiddlers they served tap water in pint glasses. just goes to show its been years since I was in the nite club.

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  • we’ll say your my face on e ,and need water…you seriously think it wouldnt be drunk from the bathroom taps?

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  • I see nothing wrong with this, since it is of course a well known fact that only drug users drink water.

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  • The big clubs in Ibiza don’t give out water. A 300 ml bottle of water was €6 last time I was there and they are most certainly not drug free.
    I think it’s hugely irresponsible not to provide water to patrons whether they have been drinking alcohol or taking drugs.

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  • You in business to make money and good luck to you! But dont take us for eejits! There’s no profit in free tap water.

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  • Dave 09/08/12 #

    Its not the 1990’s for god sake. Who even takes pills anymore anyway?

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  • The owner sounds a bit of a hypocrite to me. He won’t give away a free glass of water; he will however sell you a 500ml bottle of water. Sorry if I sound dumb here but could you not use the 500ml bottle of water with your drug taking, if you were so inclined to take drugs in the first place? The words black, kettle & pot come to mind & don’t forget profiteer.

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  • cheap publicity FTW

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  • This is nothing new. Back in the early 90′s at the metro land in Waterford, the water to the taps in the toilets was shut off for the very same reason too.

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  • This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve read in years. So you mean to say people who do drugs in a nightclub think to themselves before they go out: “Now, what is the current water policy in the club I’m going to? Will I be able to get free water when I’m out of my face? No? I’ll not go there so!” absolutely stupid money making scam. The drug free environment is most likely as a result of the music they play and vigilant bouncers only, nothing to do with the stupid water policy. Twisted logic from this owner

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  • It’s a ten year old policy why is it making news now…

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  • I don’t understand his logic at all.
    If someone is intent on popping a few pills they’re hardly gonna turn around and say
    “Actually, you know what lads, I better not, I wont be able to get a glass of water when im madouveh”
    And then charging for bottled water? So he’s still supplying the Substance that “encourages drug use” but he’s just making a wee profit off it.

    makes no sense

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  • I guarantee you that if someone was to test everyone in that club on a typical night there would probably be the same average number of people high on something as anywhere else….perhaps more cos by the sound of it you’d need to be off your head to listen to the crap they’re turfing out as music!

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  • Ed 24/03/13 #

    Sounds like the happy hour there isnt,

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  • At least he has put some thought into it… although he could just charge for the tap water. He has to buy the glasses after all, hire someone to wash the glasses, pick up the glasses, and is no doubt charged rates for his water connection. It’s not free for him to provide it, I don’t know why people are expecting it for free.

    It’s a club run as a business, not a community center. He can charge whatever he likes, if the public don’t like it they move along.

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    • I’m sure they charge a nice admission fee.

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    • p Turple you are absolutely right. People get apoplectic if they are asked to pay for water, ignoring the fact that if everyone wanted to drink free water there wouldn’t be a club anyway. Who do they think pays the rent, the wages, provides the equipment etc?

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    • Er, I thought in clubs they usually use disposable glasses? Just because people are dancing and moving around and they are liable to drop them or get knocked or jolted coming back from the bar – having to clean up broken glass in a packed club would be a nightmare and dangerous too with drunk people falling over (because you see far more of *that* in nightclubs).

      In a pub you may get glass alright, but serving drinks in glasses in a nightclub is insanity..

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  • Perhaps he is doing his customers a favor….http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88pfVo3bZLY&feature=player_embedded

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  • It’s a business which he is entitled to run as he sees fit provided he obeys the licensing laws. If you don’t agree with the way any business is run you simply don’t go to it, it’s your choice.

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  • Bollox, most people in clubs buy a bottle or water from the bar and re-fill in the toilets. I never saw anyone ask for tap water at the bar. I see alot of people fill up in the toilets.

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  • Isnt the local council charging him for water, why shouldnt he pass that cost on. Councils haven’t reduced there water rates with the economy.

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