Not a Norris fan at all but he is more than qualified for the job. For me, I personally would pick another candidate but it is utterly disgusting to say that Norris is not up for the job because of his sexuality.

Small minded idiot.

@Jason – ever hear of latent homosexuality? Twat.

Most countries out-law the act rather than the descriptive term by which people assert their sexual orientation. Foreign trips hardly go beyond a few days. I know that most heterosexual people believe that gay people get a lot of action, I think most gay people can resist the temptation of the flesh for a couple of days. But if it goes beyond a week I’d have my doubts. You know what we gays are like.

Jason the brevity of your assertions astounds all comprehension. Your a complete ignoramus and bigot. Policy making as with life itself is hardly ever black or white but rather all manner of grey.

jason,crawl back under your rock and stay there.

They all have dirt on them if you dig deep enough, the difference is Norris was an independent going against the big parties.

The absolute and utter facts are that if Norris was not gay, there would not be all of this publicity about him. The anti Norris brigade come on here and forget to use the word ‘Statutory’. And would you not in all honesty do everything in your power to help someone you loved no matter what. If you were to really investigate Norris’s career you would see that he has always put the child first. The fundamentalist jihad Catholics come out in arms over Norris and yet they defend their utterly corrupt prada wearing pedophile ring with all the vigour they can muster. And they do it with absolute conviction and certainty for nothing gives you more strength than having God on your side. Life does not care for creed or sex. But those with beliefs to defend do. The Fundamentalist catholic are a new breed of catholic. They appear almost humble and yet behind it is utter conceit for all that do not share their path. They prefer utterly to condemn. I don’t actually care too much for Norris but the extraordinary wave to hang him and quarter him by The Fundamentalist Catholics will give him a real chance.

@John It sounds like you where felt-up by Reverend Billy Graham. By that I mean, a very regressive and anally-retentive synopsis expounded by rather unsavoury ‘lead me to the true light’ pastors. Those days are long gone mate. They where meet with a tsunami of progressive liberal effort in the nineteen sixties. You and your ‘never give an inch’ brigade have been consigned to the fringes of commentary in most liberal societies, and for the very specific and rather simple reason that most people just wanna get along.

@Jason Fitzgerald.U are A joy to behold. Opinions inherited from daddy, mammy and the church. Never questioned. Never seen through. And taken on like they are your own. Steadfast and strong am I amongst my inherited opinions. Where am I amongst them. Lost in time. Longing to be right because the fear of being wrong drives every word. Jason Jason sure you keep the chat rooms alive with your great opinions. The fear is wonderful. But it’s all included. If Jesus came back the Catholics would be first in line to crucify him. So much would their outrage and disappointment. My kids will grow up in a country with a new President who happens to like men. Big swing dicky but beautiful for them for they will not even think twice about it. For them it will be of no consequence. Only the big people have such strong opinions to hold onto. Only the big people like Jason.

@Jason Yeah that’s a fairly sufficient reply of yours there. I mean I get your name wrong and far from ignoring it, and chalking it up to my over-exuberance in typing out my initial comment, you decide to make that your complete response. Substance appears not to be your strong suit. Like all pious and pompous conservatives you choose shallow subliminal points, over indepth forensic analysis.

Jason, I fully support your following of the bible. Put to death he who lies with another man…..hmmmm

Right so I’m going to have to follow the part that says I can kill those that work on a Sunday…….I tell you it’s going to be a total blood bath tomorrow!

But then it’s only right I blindly follow thd bible just like you……….

:)

Talk about Vladimir Putin, the Irish media always try to tell us who to vote for in every kind of election.

Colin – Given that David Norris has topped every poll, lots of people seem to know exactly why they would vote for him.

I was a Norris supporter until his dismal performance on The Late Late show. The man showed he has some serious issues with his stance on underage sex and also got caught out on several lies. He can not be allowed become president as he will disgrace Ireland.

Has anyone every met anyone who was surveyed by the Red Sea Poll???

I don’t mean to say that I think he will be partaking in intercourse whilst away on diplomatic envoy’s and nor do I care. But it is not a legitimate question to ask that perhaps certain countries will refuse to deal with him purely because of his sexual orientation?

Senator Norris should be described as "Independent" with an asterisk. "Sunday Independent" would be more like it, or maybe "Sindo/RTE".

@Jason

Too much gargle me thinks

It will be a battle of the transfers between Higgins and Davis in the end – Norris and McGuinness will slide when it comes to second preferences.

Why would anyone vote for man who has sat on his arse in the Seanad fir 10 years trousering a fortune and doing fuck all?

The established belief that David Norris will be unable to attract sufficient second, third, fourth, and another preference votes before the actually Campaign proper has begun, I think is somewhat presumptuous. Why at this stage pollsters’ have been asked to reflect it in their polling is a degree baffling. Of course it’s important to give the greatest possible, lay of the land, as to where the candidates stand at present, but I think it’s far to early to believe that there won’t be an enormous amount of flux over the weeks ahead. And more so the case given the number of candidates declared and the possible final tally of seven candidates by the close of Wednesday. There are to many unpredictable factors that may emerge or may not for that matter. But my guess is that it will be very fluid and open to considerable alteration over the period ahead. As an old Chinese proverb states, ‘may you live in interesting times’. These ought to be among the most interesting in Irish Presidential history.

To be fair, the poll doesn’t look right. was it was taken in Dublin alone, or was it sampled across the nation?. the ill feeling for norris is very strong in the west for example. he is a very divisive candidate.. you either love him or dispise him. no middle ground. that is why the poll is showing a transfer toxicity to norris. lastly if any more letters emerge, such as the one his staff allegedly resigned over, not the one that did emerge, the sea will change drastically. Norris second at best simply because of the transfers.

Serious question. How will senator Norris be received in countries where homosexuality is outlawed. I’m assuming he won’t be granted entrance. And how will this effect his ability to preform his duties?

@ Andrew, well I think it is… Rape is rape in any form of context when it comes to minors.. The Law decides that.. Norris doesn’t.so when he decides to look for clemency for actions of others he has to be viewed similar.. We in Ireland have made a stance on a big problem in Ireland surrounding the catholic church.and we are still trying to get to the truth.. Why put someone on the stage who is carrying baggage of a similar nature??

The whole selection process is undemocratic and has really been exposed this year. Shame on all concerned.

Norris is a tarnished man and is therefore like others not suitable to be the Irish Peoples President !

No one said Norris raped any one but he did write a letter …. A letter that
Should never have been written .,, he has proven that he is no better then Bertie and the rest of them using his public office for personal gain …

Norris seems to have written six more letters asking for clemency for his former partner Ezra Nawi one to the prime minster of israel at the time, so thats 7 letters that we know of seeking clemency for a convicted child rapist. 7 in just one case, what else is out there, if the polls are correct and he gets elected then we will have 7 years of this kind of crap coming out, rumour and counter rumour, its not good for Irelands reputataion abroad..

Quick question. I read somewhere that some TD’s/senators have given Norris the nod after he gave reassures that he has nothing else to hide. So my question is. What happens if he gets the nod. it’s election day and a huge story breaks bout him that’s terrible. Can they withdrawn or is it too late.

Yeah, I’m always somewhat bemused that all the commotion that swirls around the election of a Pope. Not just the theatre of, ‘O is it white or black smoke’. Or commentators dissecting every word spoken in the days beforehand by gallivanting Cardinals. No it’s not that that bemuses me. It’s the very chapel that the deliberations take place in that interests me. And most particularly that fresco on the ceiling by Michelangelo. They the Cardinals are deliberating away day after day, jostling for position, trying to get their guy in. And all the while this scene is in full flow beneath that painting. And I get to thinking. Surly as Michelangelo was feverishly working away day and night, pondering and altering his designs, all in the company of a squad of his apprentices. Chosen by him for their talents and devotion to his school of art. And also chosen for other reasons, youthful, athletic and beauty. And my thinking comes into it’s own at these times. I think to myself, I’m sure there where days as they worked effortlessly for the aggrandisement of God and Church, they were overcome by the flow and intensity of their endeavours, and taking a little time out atop the scaffold, their minds wander to more human desires and emotions. I think of the enormous dedication and time it took to produce those works, and it stymies me to think that Michelangelo’s well documented extra-curricular activities never rose over that entire period. Obviously I think not. So when you once more look at the scene in the Sistine Chapel take a fresh look and ponder. And think aloud, O the Hypocrisy of it all.

Can someone tell me why Norris is getting a vote??? To me he is as guilty as the catholic church in the way he handled himself by abusing his position of authority in trying to his buddy off the hook.. People have slated the catholic church.. But not Norris as much.why not?? He is just as guilty as them!

Plane and simple he will always be known for trying to get Ezra away with rape ……

Why would anybody vote for that sneering idiot Norris, I would vote for Dana before I would vote for that pompous ass.

@IanConway. Most countries out-law the act rather than the descriptive term by which people assert their sexual orientation. Foreign trips hardly go beyond a few days. I know that most heterosexual people believe that gay people get a lot of action, I think most gay people can resist the temptation of the flesh for a couple of days. But if it goes beyond a week I’d have my doubts. You know what we gays are like.

Norris is a walking headache …

Can someone tell me why they believe Davis Norris is better qualified to be President of this country than Michael D Higgins?

Norris cannot win the election. Not possible. These polls are rubbish and for the most part are fraudulently conspired. Fact.

I don’t know how he will be received, but I’m pretty certain that far more bad than good would come out of his election, if not downright embarrassment.
Even besides his stance on paedophilia, he cannot be taken seriously as a president. He wouldn’t know where to start. Don’t be fooled by the affected voice of someone from Ballymun (I kid you not)

Most of Senator Norris’s team, by definition amongst his strongest supporters , as well as most of his Oireachtas backers abandoned him when the Nawi letter came out. Senator Norris himself withdrew from the contest because of it-my recollection is that he said he hadn’t shown sufficient or any empathy for the victim (having read the letter I am not so sure the Senator really saw or sees the boy as a "victim"- if anything he seems to see Nawi in that role).He gained high praise for the perceived dignity of his departure. None of the above has changed one whit yet all of a sudden and largely courtesy of the media, the man is back, portraying himself (and being portrayed by others) as a "Comeback Kid". The lack of empathy for the victim is forgotten about. He seems now to explain his withdrawal on people knocking incessantly on his door. So was he just making up the bit about lack of empathy or has he changed his mind about it’s significance? That’s an either/or question.
In my opinion the reality is that Senator Norris has an enormous ego and is consumed with ambition to be elected to the Presidency. I don’t trust him to have disclosed all skeletons in his closet. He has already failed that test at least once. I believe that there is a serious risk that in the event of his election something will emerge that will repel a large portion of the citizenry, and will lead to calls for his resignation-perhaps even coming from the Government. I believe he would resist those calls. His self-regard wouldn’t allow him to do otherwise. And there we would have a self-inflicted Constitutional crisis at a time when we least need it. This type of scenario would sell no end of newspapers but it would be a disaster for the Country.(I think election of McGuinness would carry similar risks, albeit for different reasons).
In the meantime I also think that in the above scenario enormous damage could be done to his agenda and by extension to his supporters who share that agenda (I don’t).

lol Alan; it seems anyone who doesn’t ‘think’ like them is small-minded? LMAO

Danyl, a 43 year old man has sex with a 15 year old child. Norris writes a pompous arrogant bullshit letter to get his boyfriend off the hook. Then he hints that he has no Jutes with this age gap and that he would have welcomed the advances of an older man when he was young.

This controversy will taint the post of president if he is elected, on that basis along he should not stand.

For the record, I think all the candidates are shite.

in-depth forensic analysis? hahahaha…. I really am so sick of this presidential turd campaign but you want me to dissect it with a magnifying glass? please…. as for adequate response – your points are illegitimate and don’t warrant one. I’m a good catholic – you can keep your Billy Grahams. And by the way, homosexuality IS an abomination. I’m not sure I’m so devout that I would do what Leviticus says: put to death any man that lies with another, but when it comes to paedophilia, I’m sure I could be persuaded.

and by the way, if he was to be elected on only 21% of the vote (the gay/paedo/confused-female vote), then that doesn’t represent the democratic will of the people. In fact its a farce. It says 79% voted agionst the president-elect. Forget the worries about democracy of nominations and support, herein lies the real democratic deficit, and this is what should be altered before it is too late.

In fact, my suggestion for proper democracy, is that if the two leading votes were taken, another vote is put to the people, and the winner is then elected; ie. if Davis/Higgins/McGuinness gets 18%, Norris 21%, they should then go head to head. I bet the same 79% would still vote against Norris.

Wow! I’m not voting for Norris if he gets the nod but as I said…..wow!

@Jack-Ass wow that is a really intelligent reply from you…. when stuck for words, you might as well keep it simple, eh? Simpleton.