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Column: The children’s referendum is a chance to put things right

By voting yes, we can prove that this generation has done more than any other to protect children who have been betrayed in the past, writes Aodhán Ó Riordáin.

Aodhán Ó Ríordáin

WITH THE WORDING of the Referendum on Children’s now published and the date fixed for Saturday 10 November, it finally gives us the opportunity to give constitutional status to that oft-quoted phrase from the Proclamation of the Republic: ‘To cherish all the children of the Nation equally’. After much debate and thought we at last have the chance to put to bed the anomalies in the constitution that have failed so many of our citizens in the past who suffered abuse and neglect.

It is crucial that we as a society take this referendum extremely seriously and that collectively we play an active role in campaigning for these necessary amendments to our Constitution. If we succeed we can proudly state that this generation has done more than any other to protect the very group who we have betrayed so grievously in the past. I am often asked the very simple question: Why do we need a referendum? The answer is actually a very simple one: we need to protect the special place that is childhood for every one of our citizens.

The constitution needs to be amended so that there is a general recognition and affirmation of the rights of children. We need to ensure that there is provision for the State to intervene in those very rare cases when a child’s parents have failed to protect them. We need the Constitution to treat all children equally regardless as to whether or not their parents are married. We need to be certain that when proceedings affect children that their best interests are paramount in the production of a resolution. Finally, we need to ensure that the views of children are sought and considered in any proceedings affecting them.

This referendum has been proposed for quite a number of years and on paper it would appear almost like a ‘blueberry pie’ amendment – a lot of people are likely to be in favour of it. Our society has a deep regard for children and their protection has been the focus of much of our national soul-searching over the past number of years, so surely strengthening their position in the Constitution is a no-brainer. Unfortunately constitutional debates in Ireland have never been that simple. A casual glance at the history of this issue demonstrates that it has been one of the most politically sensitive topics of the last decade.

The long road to the referendum

Since 2007 there have been 3 different wordings proposed for a possible constitutional amendment on this issue. The wording agreed this week by the cabinet is in fact the fourth time such a wording has been produced. This demonstrates just how serious an issue this is for legislators from all parties. It began in 2007 when the then Minister for Children, the late Brian Lenihan, proposed that article 42.5 of the Constitution would be deleted and replaced with a new article that affirmed the “natural and imprescriptible rights of all children”.

However the then government understood the value and importance of obtaining cross party agreement on this issue and later that year the Joint Committee on the Constitutional Amendment on Children was established to agree an all-party consensus. This committee met 62 times over a period of 27 months, producing 3 reports. The final of these reports, in 2010, proposed another wording to strengthen children’s constitutional rights. More recently, in 2011, a third wording was agreed but never formally published by Barry Andrews, who had been appointed Minister of State for Children in 2008. However, this got side tracked with the arrival of the Troika and the general election in February of that year. So the task to put this issue to bed fell onto the new government and the new Minister.

It is clear therefore that before Minister Fitzgerald and the government set out to take on this challenge, there had already been a significant amount of work put into this issue. We have prioritised this measure as a stand-alone referendum so as the debate can be clear and focused. The decision to hold it on a Saturday also gives maximum opportunity to all citizens to have their voice heard, and it is particularly crucial that those who are perhaps voting for the first time have the chance to help bury the painful legacy of the past and to make history for our children.

It is now 13 years since the late Mary Raftery brought to our screens what we already knew about the widespread child abuse in our industrial schools. The publication of the Cloyne and Ferns reports has haunted us since then too. Now, after years of work and detailed analysis, we can finally fix the anomalies present in our Constitution and deliver the necessary protections for our children.

Aodhán Ó Ríordáin is a TD for Dublin North Central and the Vice Chair of the Joint Committee on Jobs, Education & Social Protection. Prior to entering politics he worked as a Principal in Dublin’s Sheriff Street. He tweets at @Aodhanoriordain.

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Comments (19 Comments)

  • Laws need to change dramaticly. My niece fostered aged 7weeks by my sister who was 21 at the time. She’s now 19 & still considered first grandchild/niece. When she was 7 and on a visit to her fathers he refused to give her back. There was very little we could do. It took a lot of legal fees to get her back. My point is that when it comes to children and rights of the child, the laws in this country are stupid.

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    • tom_cos 19/09/12 #

      I have a somewhat similar experience to relate. I think this amendment will change what my family went through and what yours went through. The rights of children affected will have to be considered above all else. It will force state agencies to change their behaviour and I believe, will mean they will not be subjected to situations where their rights and interests are ignored.

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    • Ye don’t have to convince me Tom:-) Ill vote yes…but ill have a good read of it first.

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  • I couldn’t agree more. Having had very bitter personal experience of it, I am particularly happy that the amendment offers the ability for long-term foster parents to be able to make a stand if faced with the horrible prospect of seeing long-term and settled foster children in their care be returned to parents who are clearly unable to care for those children.

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    • You don’t normally comment here. Are you a member of the Labour Party by chance?

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    • No chance I am voting yes for this.

      Giving permission for the state to take our kids. Just like in America where the “Child Protection Services” are anything but. They are more like paedophile kidnappings to order, for judges and others, all anyone has to do is look up the case of Holly Greig case and the fact that EU legislation now allows paedophilia ALSO THE LISBON TREATY IS ALLOWING PAEDOPHILIA TO ‘NOT’ BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST (PAEDOPHILE IS NOW CLASSED AS AN ‘ACCEPTABLE’ SEXUAL ORIENTATION) E.U & GERMANY ARE TRYING TO LEGALISE PAEDOPHILIA (PUBLISHED BOOKLET)

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  • Aodhán I have a major problem with this issue, that those campaigning for it are ignoring .The State is a completely useless parent .If you look at the UK and USA children taken into care have virtually no chance of becoming successful happy adults.You want the state to be the ultimate authority for minor citizens then it has to be held to the same standards as it will hold parents .

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    • tom_cos 19/09/12 #

      In the UK and the USA there are no specific constitutional rights for children that force state agencies to take those rights into account. It is the same in Ireland. This amendment will change that position here. There will be a very serious legal obligation for the rights and interests of children to be considered above anything else.

      It’s radical and it is very important. I hope you vote yes.

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    • “The State is a completely useless parent.” Spot on Jeff. If one looks impartially at the evidence from history or sociological research your point is proven beyond reasonable doubt.

      The assumption is made and never challenged that state agencies have competence. The evidence is overwhelming that they do not. Here is just one reason.

      State social work services are dominated by those with qualifications that are academic but have no relevance to the real world. If we really are serious about improving the lives of unfortunate children then this problem needs to be addressed. It is naive at best to think a amendment to the constitution is going to solve this or other problems.

      Instead of informative debate we have to endure the spectacle of politicians catching a Sow by the ears and straddling her thinking they on the pigsback and riding her to fame and popularity.

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  • As a State we have failed generations of children. Only in recent years have we as a society accepted that this should not continue, and this constitutional amendment is both a statement and a practical means of giving enhanced legal protections to children.

    Sadly however, in most cases of child neglect, the most important ingredient to protect these children is state resources, such as sufficient care services. While this amendment will assist in advancing the necessary funding, there will always be competing interests for State finances.

    Perhaps this should be seen as a significant step towards the attainment of a standard of State protection for our children and those of future generations, even if it isn’t the overall solution.

    I commend the Government for advancing the Bill.

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  • Denito 19/09/12 #

    Campaigners for this will be very keen to answer the question “Why do we need a referendum?”.
    What we should be asking is questions like:
    “What is wrong with the current constitutional provisiond for protecting children?
    Can you demonstrate that the current constitutional provisions have failed children?
    Wouldn’t the money being spent on this referendum be better spent on child-protection services?”

    It’s funny that the deputy mentions Industrial schools in his article: they are arguably the most compelling argument against the state deciding what is in children’s interests (most of the children in those hellish institutions were taken away from their families and sent there by judges).

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    • tom_cos 19/09/12 #

      “What is wrong with the current constitutional provisiond for protecting children?”

      There are no specific constitutional provisions that protect children and their specific needs and vulnerabilities as such. They are protected within the context of the family unit. This is why Industrial schools flourished – children had no rights of their own that were required to be prioritised above all else. They were locked away by state institutions that abandoned them.

      “Can you demonstrate that the current constitutional provisions have failed children?”

      Yes. Industrial schools, Magdalene Laundries, clerical sex abuse cases, numerous HSE cases where kids have been neglected and died.

      “Wouldn’t the money being spent on this referendum be better spent on child-protection services?”

      That is precisely the point – because these provisions will exist if the referendum is passed, institutions and State services will be forced to spend money and the State will be forced to provide it, in order that the constitutional rights of children are upheld.

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  • I can almost hear all the religous orders now saying “oh, you mean all this time it was illegal to abuse children, gotya”, we had plenty of laws that were ignored in this country, how can we be sure these will be policed any differently? I’ll probably vote yes but I’ll have a damn good read of this first.

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  • The Irish State has been the biggest systemic child abuser in this country, and we want to give the State more rights? I’m very sorry, but given our history I am very scared of this proposal.

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    • tom_cos 19/09/12 #

      The reason why the State has failed so badly in the past is because the Constitution has not had any rights enshrined to protect the child. This amendment changes that. It forces state agencies and institutions who care for children to take account of their rights and their interests above their own.

      This amendment is a good thing, not a bad thing. The Constitution protects all of us, but until this amendment is passed it will not acknowledge that children need additional rights because they are vulnerable and not able to protect themselves.

      I’d urge you to support it.

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    • Denito 19/09/12 #

      I’m sure that the judges who sent underprivileged children to industrial schools would have justified it saying that it was in the children’s own interests.

      Many parents have failed their children since the foundation of the state. The state itself has, subsequently, also failed many of these children as can be seen in the statistics of children who died in care. There is already robust legislation in place, such as the Child Care Act 1991, to protect children in cases of abuse or neglect by their parents. The problem is not with the constitution or the legislation, the problem is that the state authorities are incompetent when it comes to enforcing the existing laws.

      The referendum is nothing but a fig-leaf: the government can now say that it has made great strides in protecting children by window-dressing the constitution all while child protection services are underresourced and the HSE, Gardaí and others regularly make a hames (such as in the Roscommon case) of safeguarding children. The measure reminds me of Micheál Martin’s introduction of the smoking ban while minister for health: a big ticket legislative stroke that distracts from the fact that very little is being done about the substantive, underlying issues.

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    • censored 19/09/12 #

      I wish that was true. I don’t see anything in the text about how State agencies or representatives will be held accountable for failures or active abuse. Without that accountability it is as Denito says – just a fig leaf.

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  • We are being told to vote Yes in the Children’s Rights Referendum. Is it really a good thing for Children?

    On the face of it, from the title it sounds wonderful, but is it really? On these pages we have provided you with information to make an informed decision. Do the research for yourself and we think that you will agree that this is an attack on Families and Children. Children will actually have less rights if this incideous legislation passes. Ireland will be giving up the sovereignty of our children to unelected people in the UN and EU

    Irish children deserve a world-class Child Protection System, but the Irish State have always proven to be the worst possible parent. What is happening to children now in State “Care” is far worse than ever occurred in the old institutions. Wait for Ryan Report II, coming soon.

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  • The reason I will vote No to the children’s referendum is that I have no faith in the HSE to look after children, indeed to look after anybody , especially after the evil they and their predecessors have wrought on the country’s psychiatric patients over the years and still do!
    Thus I have never seen why psychiatrists who are a pretty awful profession in Ireland should ever have been paid the large salaries of other medical consultants, in fact I see little in the psychiatric hospitals where a psychiatric nurse could not do the work of a so-called consultant psychiatrist and did indeed:-)
    I have even met a patient in my time who could do the work of a psychiatrist , and even better than most of them, he had spent fifteen years in St. Canice’s on and off and studied the entire field of psychiatry.
    But if the government wishes to continue to waste big salaries on useless people like psychiatrists far be it from me to try to stop them, I am not that mad!)

    Many psyciatrists are now corrupt as well , taking bribes from the drug companies. Quite seriously I do not know how any civilized society could ever put up with those evil bastards and bitches called psychiatrists.
    I knew one who fell down her stairs and broke her neck drunk on wine, I know another who is locked up in Dundrum Mental Hospital for the Criminally Insane for beating and strangling her daughter to death and drownibng her in the bath.

    And it’s people like this that they want me to vote Yes so they can consign even more poor children to their evil and twisted ” care” , do they think I am altogether insane ???
    Save the Children, Vote NO:-)

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