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Residents claim TDs do not represent ‘middle class’ in Dublin suburb

Terenure village in south Dublin
Terenure village in south Dublin
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RESIDENTS OF A suburb in south Dublin have asked that their neighbourhood be moved into a different electoral constituency as they believe local TDs do not represent their middle class concerns.

The Association of Residents of Terenure (ART), representing around 300 households in the northwest of Terenure village, has written to the Constituency Commission – the body currently reviewing electoral boundaries in Ireland – to ask that their neighbourhood be moved from Dublin South Central to Dublin South East.

“The current constituency boundary has left us at a great disadvantage because the make-up of the public representatives who have been elected to our constituency do not, in general, seem to feel they represent the ‘middle class’ suburb of Terenure, and instead draw their support from, and give their attention to, the western part of the constituency,” their letter states.

Dublin South Central currently includes areas like Crumlin, Dolphin’s Barn, Ballyfermot and Inchicore while Dublin South East includes Rathmines, Ranelagh, Rathgar and Donnybrook.

ART believes it is being cut off from Dublin South East with which it has a “natural association” with and states that it has no “logical affinity” with Dublin South Central.

The complaint also focuses on the village being effectively split into two electoral areas which leaves it “inadaquately serviced by both” constituencies. Residents say “the fabric of the village, and therefore of our community, is threatened as a result”.

The letter calls on the Commission to reunite the village as part of its review and echoes a number of other submissions regarding the leafy suburb that were submitted to the Constituency Commission, the Irish Independent reports today.

Speaking on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland earlier today, Terenure Residents Association chairman Jim Dowling suggested that the two constituencies each become areas with four TDs each.

“Our primary motivation is to have Ternure in one constituency. At the moment the dividing line runs right through the middle of Terenure village, dividing even the village in two,” he said.

He indicated that was logical that reuniting the village would mean that some areas would have to move to Dublin South East, which currently has four seats, from Dublin South Central, which has five, and not the other way around.

“We don’t like the situation the way it is,” he said adding that while Terenure had associations with Rathmines, “if you go the other way there isn’t anything we’re assocated with, in any way.”

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  • Lar Hayden 11/01/12 #
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    Aren’t most electoral constituencies like this. In my own constituency we’ve got a wide variety of class catered for, right from working class in a number of areas to the upper classes of Howth. Everybody votes for who they would like to represent them and the democratic process is respected when results are announced. Deal with it and get off your high horse. You’re middle class, you shouldn’t have any airs and graces about you at all.

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  • Norman Hunter 11/01/12 #
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    Welcome to the club all Ts just representing themselves and the interests of Banks and Bondholders.

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    So the rugby shirted, ‘heino” drinking rabble want a TD who will solely represent them?
    The doomsday clock goes forward 1 minute and the Irish political clock goes back 70 years.

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  • Kev Dunne 11/01/12 #
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    much the same problem where I live in north Bray. we are part of dun laoghaire rathdown electorally, but practically we should be north wicklow. dlr don’t give a monkeys, that’s why there is a constant traffic jam on the main road.

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  • jason bourne 11/01/12 #
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    Tossers…. Does it actually make any difference whatsoever? They just hate seeing terenure in the same group as Ballyfermot and dolphins barn

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  • Alan Conroy 11/01/12 #
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    I dont blame them, I wouldnt want Aengus Ó Snodaigh canvassing in my area either

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    • Declan Carroll 11/01/12 #
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      Correct. The “Forrest Gump” like TD of Dáil Eireann. Govt are squeezing & squeezing the guy & gal in the middle til no more can be squeezed out. They do that at their peril. The time is surely coming when the guy & gal in the middle will snap. When that happens, TDs of all sorts need to watch out.

    • Randy savage 11/01/12 #
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      fully agree Alan, thank god there are no elected shinners like him in my constituency . More cop on than to vote for them

  • Inda Kinny 11/01/12 #
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    If they get away with this then it’s a joke. Leitrim, due to the fact that it has only 30,000 people was split into 2 constituencies and bolted onto neighbouring counties. North Leitrim & Sligo and South Leitrim & Roscommon. The WHOLE country basically doesn’t have anyone who gives a s*!t about it. THATS A WHOLE COUNTY with people of all types of social class, people who live in towns, villages, on farms. This is 300 houses who think they’re posh but in fact live in Terenure. Get the hell over yourself people.

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  • Eugene O' neill 11/01/12 #
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    Seems more about the value of their houses then the values of the politic’s.
    New script work for a new Ross o carroll kelly book :)
    Was their not some bullsh*t about west/east Terenure?sounds a snobbish to me.

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  • Dave 11/01/12 #
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    Yes, I’m reminded bout Fionualla’s protests outside Funderland, chanting “have your fun in the mun” :-)

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  • Brian Carroll 11/01/12 #
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    Snobbery at its absolute worst. The poor darlings must be sickened at being lumped in with ‘the scum’. Send them all down to Dolphin House and see how they get on living there for a while.

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    • Eugene O' neill 11/01/12 #
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      “Send them all down to Dolphin House and see how they get on living there for a while”
      That would make a great show for RTE.The D4 wanna be trying to order a pinot white wine at the bar,real text book comedy.

  • Kildare 11/01/12 #
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    They should get the woman from that AIB advert as their public face, remember she was the one banging on about Terenure

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  • Dominic Achom 11/01/12 #
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    True talk…… They represent their pocket.

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  • Ciarán Ferrie 11/01/12 #
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    I wasn’t surprised when RTE’s Morning Ireland decided to focus on this issue this morning but for the Journal to blindly follow suit is a bit disappointing. There are far more serious concerns regarding Swords & Leitrim that are more deserving of attention. At the last count here were 205 submissions to the Constituency Commission in relation to Swords; 47 submissions relating to Leitrim; and only 12 relating to Terenure. At this stage we expect RTE to be South Dublin-centric but perhaps the Journal could show some true independence by giving more space to the issues that really concern people.

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  • Barry Williams 11/01/12 #
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    When did any politican represent the middle class. The middle man is always the one screwed over. Everyone else is either poorer and richer so pays nothing .

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    • Declan Carroll 11/01/12 #
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      Correct. They will squeeze & squeeze us as we are the easy target. A tipping point will come & TDs in “all” areas will feel the force of that – hopefully.

  • Stephen Murphy 11/01/12 #
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    Sounds a bit like the renaming of ‘Kimmage Road East’ to ‘Terenure Road West’ that happened some time ago – instant house price jump!

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  • Tim Henchin 11/01/12 #
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    If they called it the “Gombeen Association for Parish Pump Politics” rather than A.R..T , they might have a more accurate name. Really embarrassing stuff and straight from the mouth of Charles o’Carroll Kelly.

    Grow up people, and stop worrying about a little bubble a mile around your house and start looking to the good of the country.

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  • William O'Shea 11/01/12 #
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    ” No logical affinity”… ???………… “if you go the other way there isn’t anything we’re associated with, in any way” ??? What a blatant and condescending insult to the people of Dublin South Central. Methinks this attitude epitomises the insular, shortsighted, egocentric and selfish nature of what the Irish have become. No wonder self-serving politicians, immoral bankers/investors and property developers have collectively gangbanged Ireland inc. when the ‘I’m alright Jack’ (or in this case ‘not alright Jack’) philosophy permeates the very class that usually produces such rogues. Ireland is not and has never been a republic; OUR nation state has devolved from a theocracy to an autocracy (bypassing the notion of democracy)…… and now to a subservient and shackled principality. But that’s Ok hey, because the Irish euro gravy train ticketholders are probably all drawn from the hinterland of Dublin South Central!
    Here’s a good idea, (for the good folk of Terenure) why not petition to have the river Liffey moved to the edge of your fiefdom and then Dublin South Central can become Dublin North Central South……… for some reason I think this solution might satisfy your egotistical (though illusory) view of your place in the world.

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    • Tim Henchin 11/01/12 #
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      Agreed, trying to tell me that Terenure has anything in common with Rathgar is really just pushing it. I sometimes go over there to chat up the local girls. What can I say, I sometimes like to slum it.

  • Tim Henchin 11/01/12 #
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    “We don’t like the situation the way it is,” he said adding that while Terenure had associations with Rathmines, “if you go the other way there isn’t anything we’re assocated with, in any way.” says Jim Dowling from the Terenure outfit.

    They should move all of Terenure then in to Dublin South Central, it’s Terenure FFS, there is nothing there. Then they can tell Jim that he should get off his arse and maybe do something productive with his life.

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  • Floodzie 11/01/12 #
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    ‘Middle class’ comment aside, it IS a bit stupid to have the dividing line between the two constituencies running through the village.

    Put ALL of Terenure village in Dublin South Central or Dublin South East, this division makes no sense whatsoever.

    Terenure village is a lovely place and could be made even better with more focussed planning decisons – Howth wihout the boats! :-)

    And I speak as someone who hails from ‘Dublin 6W’ – and proud!! :-)

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  • Stephie Fitz 11/01/12 #
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    find something valid to complain about you elitist swines!

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    Instead of letter writing and insulting the voters of Dublin South East, why doesn’t Terenure Residents Association chairman Jim Dowling run for councillor? I don’t remember the bould Jim on my ballot paper when I last voted in Ballyfermot.

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      Meant to say Dublin South Central

    • Alan Conroy 11/01/12 #
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      Councillors serve in wards, which are smaller again within the constituencies, so someone voting in ballyfermot would be voting in a different ward to someone in terenure even though they are both in Dublin South Central

    • Tim Henchin 11/01/12 #
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      I think that the bould Jim’s focus is on an even smaller area than what a Cllr. would even be expected to focus on. Even Jackie Healy Rae stretches out beyond Kilgarvan, his homestead.

      “Vote Jim Dowling.

      He’ll fix de road and get the Parish Pump flowing.

      Save the Parish Pump!
      Keep your Local TD bogged down at the Parochial level
      Screw the rest and Ireland.”

  • John Rowley 11/01/12 #
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    Economic gerrymandering,the bloody check. And very definitely unconstitutional.
    Article 40
    1. All citizens shall, as human persons, be held equal before the law.

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  • Oireachtas Retort 11/01/12 #
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    Mrs Bucket was unavailable for comment

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  • Eugene O' neill 11/01/12 #
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    I wonder were she hail’s from?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShH1wkJ72YU

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