People die in hospital all the time who undergo procedures and various surgeries. Childbirth is dangerous. Ireland still has one of the lowest maternal death rates in the world.

This particular case came to national prominence because it has been alleged that the death of the mother could have been prevented if not for lack of clarity in legislation.

Chris, both deaths were immediately referred to the coroner for investigation. Both developed sudden, unexpected complications and the deaths were ruled as natural causes but the coroner. They occurred in separate operating theatres and under care of separate teams. it was a bizarre and unfortunate tragedy/coincidence.

Sorry Chris, typo there – they were ruled as natural causes by internal investigation, the coroner’s verdict is awaited.

In fairness, there are nuts on both extremes of the debate. A Youth Defence office was vandalised by pro-choice activists on Capel Street a few days ago. Human faeces smeared on the doors, windows and locks of the office, and then posters of Savita Halappanavar were put up in several places.

That’s not the entire truth. The posters were there for 10 days before the faeces were smeared on it. The whole matter is still in investigation I presume and I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if the culprit is not on the pro-choise side.

Why would there be posters of her on a Youth Defence office for ten days?

In fairness now I think you will find most of that came from the Pro Choice side….

Hi Joe, please don’t make accusations like that. I imagine people on both sides of the debate were horrified by that act – I know I was. It’s also entirely possible that it was just an ordinary person with a personal vendetta against Coir, as they share the same address as the Life House, or someone targeting the Nic Mhathunas. there is no evidence whatsoever that it was a pro-choice stunt. And yes, the posters were reported in the Herald about a week before the faeces appeared.

Pretty obvious what happened. Youth Defence hardly attacked their own office with excrement.

In any case, the point stands that there are extreme nuts on both sides of this issue.

We don’t know that for certain Tom we only have leaked “facts” and recall of a very upset and distraught husband ( not taking from his loss which is considerable and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone ) This became a media circus and other equally if not more upsetting cases ( the cases that left children without their mothers ) were forgotten about.
I hope Mr Halapanaver gets answers for his questions.

What do you need explained Tom? No you cannot have an abortion on request and that is because of the law which is based on Catholic doctrine. It’s not a difficult statement to decipher.

That’s not true Sean Beag. You can have an abortion on demand; you just have to travel abroad to have it. Abortion is de facto legal in Ireland, but we import them by sending people abroad to have them. That’s the reality of abortion in Ireland.

In what sense?

Well I saw the leaflets they were handing out at the rally in town. They said that people were aborting babies early so they could use their organs to replace organs in fully grown adults. This cannot be done and is an outright lie.

Hang on – a pro-choice group said this? Which one?

Sorry my mistake it should read pro life! Sorry!

Haha, I was really confused reading that. ;)

I confused myself a little there if I’m honest!!

I imagine it was deleted.