Gulf Arab funded Jihadists are a growing rebel element. Mostly they are Syrians who fought in Iraq with Assad’s connivance, ironically. Most are Syrian peasants who were wiped out by drought. Assad did nothing. They did something for themselves. The foreign rebel troll is weak and supported by only Presstv, Russsiatoday and other dodgy sources.

Nice to see at least on Irish4Israel type has done Barry’s bidding and is here to engage in some whataboutery.

Gold star for you, Paddy.

“whataboutery”? A Palestinian refugee camp was attacked by the Syrian government, that is entirely relevant to this discussion as is my comment that the IPSC crowd on here are silent unless the blame can be put on Israel.

I express my own opinions and your pathetic attempt at deflection earns you no stars.

You speak about propaganda articles yet quote a Russian state news agency as your source. Can’t really talk mate.

The real truth is that there are mix of both foreign Jihadists, local religious extremists and true Syrian freedom fighters operating in the country. What the real mix is nobody can say. What is also true is that civilians are suffering as a result of this long and drawn out conflict. That suffering is caused by arms from Russia, China, NATO and Iran. So rather than pointing fingers we should be pulling them out and helping those in need. Peacekeepers, free medical aid and housing for those who have lost them due to conflict is what Syria needs.

Good to see you gave admitted to foreign Islamic jihadists and religious extremists masquerading as rebels in Syria. You have been denying that for a long time.
Interesting you mention peacekeepers. Russia has called for international border monitors in Syria for over a year now and has called on the West and other countries to stop arming the so called ‘rebels’. It was the US/Qatar/Saudi Arabia(and hence Turkey, since the only country they can get funds from is Saudi Arabia) and other countries who said they were going to ignore such peace plans and keep arming and financing the pro democratic ‘rebels’.
Well, as it is nearly impossible for anyone with even a brain cell to deny that the rebels are pro democratic we will have lots more indiscriminate killings by mainly foreign Islamic terrorists.

I’ve never once said that there are no foreign fighters in Syria, nor have I denied that there are religious extremists there. I only ever criticise you for claiming that all of the fighters in Syria are.

I also only criticise you based on your sources which are just as biased and slanted as Western media is.

Jason, I never said all the so called ‘rebels’ were foreign Islamic fighters, merely the majority of them are foreign Islamic fighters. There is a difference.
Anyway, debate is good and I respect your right to voice your viewpoint as do I.

2:1 as government inflicted vs rebel inflicted. Governments usually kill at a 4:1 rate. Assad fails again.

and 40,000 now? Where did you get that figure from? Surely not the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights?
With regards to the 20,000 defenceless and innocent who were slaughtered. You should listen to Fisk who says that among the slaughtered were armed fighters.
I am not saying that innocent people were not slaughtered, of course there were many. But what I am saying is that it was not just a one sided massacre as portrayed on media.
By the way, only for Fisk we’d have people like yourself padraig claiming chemical weapons were used at the time which was repeatedly claimed in Western media until Fisk set the evidence straight again last week.

You cite you use Iranians, Russians and Chinese as sources regimes responsible for even larger totals like Chechnya. The 40,000 is a common estimate. A small part are Syrian soldiers, a very small part. Robert Fisk recounted the massacres of Moslem Brotherhood activists and civilians in Hama in the early 80s. They were literally crushed by tanks in many cases. Bashar is finished. He now barely controls Damascus, Latakia and various tiny enclaves. He blew the lives of around 15,000 of his own Alawite men in his blundered and brutal response to the war. All your trolling is for nothing.

he really needs to keep his head lower