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GARDAÍ ARE CONTINUING to search the Bray harbour area this morning following yesterday’s shooting which left one man dead, and another two injured.
Gardaí have been carrying out searches of the area, and the harbour pier since 6am this morning. They are now focusing their investigation on the silver coloured Volkswagen Caddy that the gunman fled the scene in.
The cars of the three victims remain at the scene in Bray today.
Gardaí are now tracing the steps of the gunman and said they are still trying to establish a link between the van and the scene. They are appealing to anyone with information who might have seen the vehicle yesterday.
The area will remain cut off for some time, said the gardaí, and there is no indication as to when it will reopen.
Shooting
Tributes have been paid to Bobby Messett, a grandfather and fitness fanatic who was attending a training session when he was shot shortly before 7am yesterday morning.
Pete Taylor – the father and former trainer of Irish boxing champion Katie Taylor –sustained injuries to his arm and chest in the incident. Another man, Ian Britton, was shot three times in the leg.
Messett, who was 50, is believed by gardaí to be a completely innocent victim who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Early indications suggest this attack could be linked to a side business Taylor is a part of. Sources said that Taylor had fallen out with a local criminal who he had befriended in recent years.
There is no suggestion Pete Taylor, or anyone else in the gym at the time, is involved in any form of criminality.
Area cordoned off
The area outside the Bray Boxing Club remains cordoned off this morning and there is a large garda presence at the scene.
Police are looking to trace the movements of the silver coloured Volkswagen Caddy van with Northern Irish registration which was used in the shooting.
Shortly after the shooting, the gunman, who had his face covered drove the van from Bray through Shankill and the Cornelscourt area before being abandoned on Pigeon House Road at approximately 8.05am yesterday morning.
The male was seen leaving the van and cycling away.
Gardaí are appealing:
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On a recent trip from Heuston Stn in a packed Luas, a drunken man jammed next to me, began a loud abusive tirade against all. As the spat and the spittle developed, his face was far too close, I challenged him to be quiet- or similar words, he became physically agressive. I was pleasantly surprised when a young woman stood up and identified herself as a Garda and took the aggressor and handcuffed him off at the next stop. Thanks to the Garda that day.
Genuine question – i know it says both but why use undercover? I thought the best way to prevent crime is just have a strong overt presence on all corners. Unless maybe they’re looking to track down certain groups?
@Johnny Mads: I understand visible guards would make the community/people aware and feel protected however having undercover guards is also great to catch these nasty people when they think they aren’t being watched by the guards.
@Johnny Mads: good question considering there are cameras continuing recording each coach.
There is already visible private security. You can see them before they get on board.
In that line most of the attacks are against the same anyone whose English is second language from tourists to underage students to workers.
An undercover Gardaí should be able to caught them easily ….the problem is the Garda own bias, Garda tends to do nothing to protect anyone whose first language isn’t English … Ireland is the only country in the EU without multilingual operators in the emergency line, and emergency phone operators that cut a call because they can’t understand someone in distress with an accent of ESL … third word and in a country where their wealth comes from the multilingual services teams operating here and studying of English
@Johnny Mads: I agree, visible is better. Covert might give us a false sense of security and think Gardai are around when in fact there are none.
@Maria Quinn: Wow that is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever heard. Almost everything you have said is wrong
@Ciarán: I do personally like that approach, but my worry is that these people dont actually get any real punishment which would make the undercover a waste of time. I think a heavy uniformed presence is best but either way lets hope they do their job !
@Maria Quinn: what’s your first language ??
@Johnny Mads: undercover means they will not be there at all..you are 100% correct…why be undercover at all… visibility is the key to stopping this.
@Maria Quinn:. First off, that’s not true about the emergency call takers. France requires a long wait to obtain an English speaker.
Second, Ireland is the only country that allows non nationals to join the national police force without being able to speak the national language.
@Maria Quinn: Please provide evidence to back up your statement regarding the Garda giving preference to English speaking people.
@Phil Redmond: from personal experience(s)i beg to differ and agree with her!
Undercover or visible.. either way still good to have.
@Ciarán: I understand visible guards would make the community/people aware and feel protected however having undercover guards is also great to catch these nasty people when they think they aren’t being watched by the guards.
@Ciarán: They are underage so even if caught, they’d be let back out straight away
@Mickety Dee: they should be or parents fined.
Let the parents take responsibility.
@Mike Heelan: unfortunately they’re probably just as bad
I live in a Seaside town and Anti Social behavior especially at weekends is out of control. The Dart is dodgy at any time after Connolly and all the stations are unmanned .
As usual there is no proper deterrent as they are mostly juveniles so this allows them to do what they want.
In Ireland advance planning for anything is only done when things get really bad and if you are expecting a response that works long term don’t hold your breadth.
I’m not advocating birching but a ‘Sin’ bin should be provided so any juvenile with 3 strikes get a week if boot camp. Then progressively more. This should be automatic and they should not have a criminal record to help the idiots cop on.
Where are the parents in all this …probably absent and useless. !
Action not words is required.
@paul burke: last time I got the Dart it was delayed by 30 mins because of anti-social behaviour at Blackrock.
@paul burke: not sure given the gravity of the crimes reported that one should be given 3 strikes before a weekend at boot camp which to be fair could even be seen as fun before any long term consequences. They aren’t robbing penny sweets their actions will have long term consequences for the victims of their senseless crimes.
@Sarah Lou: They were releassed without charge because the file was sent to the DPP ( department of public prosecution ) They will go trough it all in detail and decide who to charge with what crimes as and how many charges they shouldn’t be charged with etc. it could take 8-12 months for it to come back from the dpp due to backlogs . but they will get back to them and they either say there not going ahead with charges ( in some cases ) so theyll be charged I’d say but not for 6 months +
@dubirishHerbguy: just a small correction. It’s the DIRECTOR of public prosecution
These kids have no respect for the Gardai. Whether undercover or visible.
It’s the justice system and juvenile leniency that’s letting everyone down. Especially the Gardai.
Change is needed on that or nothing else matters
Undercover cops arresting teenagers who will then be released without charge. Justice, Irish style!
Getting like the film The Warriors
@Michael Dikie :
Warriors come out and play….Always thought that lad looked like Bono!
If I see anything like that I’d launch in and batter the bejasysis out of them. They’ll pick on the wrong person one day. Flurry of spinning backfists, hook kicks, the lot.
Released without charge…….why?
@Richard Casey: The fact that the video was all over the net will make a conviction much harder.
@Richard Casey: they are juveniles so a file needs to be sent to both the dpp and the jlo before they can be charged.
That’s the system in Ireland since 1922
@Richard Casey: files sent to the DPP and garda have to gather evidence.
It’s time we had a dedicated transport police like they have in London. The public travel network in Dublin is big enough nowadays to warrant it. Its not just issues on stretches of the DART but there are areas of south and west Dublin that Bus drivers regularly refuse to enter and plenty of problems on the Luas, especially the red line.
@Ger: God I hate the red line. I hate my kids using it too
@Ger: Yes but who would pay for it? Transport police in UK are funded by transport companies and receive no central government funding. See attached:
@Trevor Fallon: currently both the DART and Luas use private security and pay for them. Clearly its not enough. So replacing them with a transport police with actual powers if arrest would be better. Who cares how its paid for,. Its needed.
@Dearbhla O Reilly: yeah I hate using it myself, I’ve seen lots of stuff on it over the years.
The victim is a teen and underage as well as the rest of the girls on the platform.
Gardaí would be useless with the male approach of consent improper conduct of males against females, and show the male aggressors as poor little things and their underage female victims as grown up adult that should know better.
So going on the inaction way, no safe for females passengers, neither tourists as usual or anyone talking in other language than English …. because of the security consent by inaction for years
@Maria Quinn: More gibberish. Give it a rest would ya
@Maria Quinn: you seem to have an obsession with English speaking people ,. Why don’t you learn it yourself
@Maria Quinn:
Ridiculous attempt to turn an antisocial and criminal issue into a gender based issue. Yes! The victim in this case was a young female but all of society is affected by this problem.
@Maria Quinn: Jesus wept.
Gender, nationality, next?????
@Maria Quinn: totally incorrect. You are full of it.
What’s the point when the judges let them off??waste of time prosecuting people with the current judges
“I am highly critical of the gardaí but I still want more of them”
Seems to be the general attitude in Ireland
The mother of one of the 3 boys involved is suing the company because they apparently leaked the CCTV and in doing so broke her son’s right to privacy no joke!
@Frédéric Slimane: correct. Meaning cctv only benefits those caught in it. Does nothing to assist the prosecution
Typical weekend in Dublin
They are going down
@Jonathan: …to the dart station again to carry on regardless as there’s no deterrent! Little scrotes that have been dragged up!
Best news today, deal with the skrotes and their feckless parents
Pity it took a serious incident for this to happen, was badly needed for a long time.
Some outstanding pillars of the community travelling on public transport all through this lockdown. Essential travel only was the rule. But they use the opportunity to do their business runs, (nudge nudge wink wink). So undercover presence from gardi is great idea. Take down these individuals.
Why not a separate transport police which I’ve seen work in other countries like Australia, Dubai and Singapore. They have powers of arrest in Australia but are not directly a police force.
@Anne Busher Collins: that badges no sense. You called them police with arrest pets and then say they arent police
Looking forward to all the lefties coming out defending these hooligans. when these lads/girls are arrested, they will play the victim card saying the government failed them, they have HDHD. they have mental health issues blah blah.
@Alan Richard Scott Jr.: lefties?it has nothing to do with politics i am what you would call a “lefty”and i think these people should feel the full force of the justice system.
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