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CARERS IN WEXFORD have accused Social Protection Minister Heather Humphreys of “speaking out of both sides of your mouth”, Independent TD Verona Murphy told the Dáil this afternoon.
Speaking during Leaders’ Questions, Murphy told the Minister that those who are currently ineligible to receive payments under the Carers’ Allowance were hurt, enraged, in disbelief and disappointed that the means test on the scheme has not been abolished.
She said the decision not to abolish the means test represents a “disregard” on the Government’s behalf for all carers, as she claimed many may never be eligible for the payments – despite attempts to increase the threshold.
Abolishing the means test of the carers’ allowance, which decides whether someone is eligible for payments based on their income and assets, was a prominent topic in the Dáil this afternoon.
Murphy, Fianna Fáil TD for Galway West Éamon Ó Cuív and independent TD for Tipperary Mattie McGrath all took the opportunity to voice their objection to the means test while Humphreys took questions at Leinster House.
The Wexford TD, a member of the Regional Independents Group, quoted Humphreys directly from remarks in the media and in the Dáil where she said more could be done to benefit carers if a Yes vote was achieved during the Care Referendum in March.
Defending her case, the Minister said: “I can be accused of many things but I can say speaking out of both sides of my mouth is not normally what I do.”
Humphreys said, as Minister, she has engaged with many carers who welcomed the increased, bumper and extended payments which were included in Budget 2025.
“These changes will mean that I have effectively doubled the income limits for the carers’ allowance over the lifetime of this Government, enabling thousands of more carers to qualify for a payment,” she told the Dáil.
Studies commissioned by the Government and care groups have previously recommended for the abolition of the means test. Murphy asked why Humphreys has not decided to follow those recommendations.
Separately, Murphy put to the Minister that the means test was based on household income, meaning a carer’s eligibility is based on an income that “they don’t even have a share in”.
Humphreys said that the measures in Budget 2025 were going to help carers and reasoned that all necessary changes could not be made in one day.
Speaking later, McGrath said that it was unacceptable that carers had to wait the longest amount of time to avail of the new measures in the Budget when compared to others. He too called for the means test to be abolished.
Humphries said a working group has been established in Government and that a report will be prepared by the end of the year.
Ó Cuív also called for the means test to be scrapped while he asked for an update on a separate report into the disability allowance.
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The public have lost trust in this goverment.
@@mdmak33: It’s more the public have lost trust in the HSE. Ministers are mere puppets controlled by the secretaries generals.
@Shane Fleming: The public haven’t lost trust in anything. Just look at the polls – FGLeo riding high still. The public don’t care about this. Not really.
@Stephen Adam: riding high? They are in early 30’s, which means over two thirds have no intention of voting for them.
@Paul Fahey: given the fractured nature of our politics they’re still the most popular party in the country. LV is the most popular leader since Bertie.
FFFG have probably 50% of the vote. So nothing changes. Homelessness house prices Garda corruption now this – won’t make a difference.
@@mdmak33: What is there to trust about a corrupt golden circle where they all look out for each other and to hell with everyone else.
The Times are running a story today that tells us Tony O’Brien joined an American company as a board member on a lucrative contract. The chairman of the compant has fundraised for Leo and is chairman of the board of Ireland East Hospital, the countries largest hospital group and the Mater hospital.
There’s conflicts of interest written all over this corrupt government and their cronies.
Ah sure look – won’t the tax payer foot the bill? Sure it’s grand.
When do we see some sackings? Some pensions stripped? Some more resignations?
When is there actual accountability for the appalling negligence and ass covering?
When the tax payer has to pay out someone’s head has to roll.
@Stephen Adam: Its easy spending somebody’s else money you see
@Stephen Adam: One word answers all your questions: “Never!”
Wait, he doesn’t know the full numbers – but the reassessments will be completed by the end of May. How was that time frame therefore arrived at ?
Has there not been enough incompetence under FG, now and in the past, for FF to withdraw support and revisit who we want to represent this country, whoever that may be. What else is going on that we haven’t been given transparency on ?
So after all the hand-wringing and crocodile tears, the fake apologies and the firm promises of action, (as opposed to actual action), they are now saying they still don’t know the full facts. What an admission! It’s clear that the chain of command is simply not working within our public services. Some of the blame may lie with operating in a highly unionised environment, where the civil servants are so cocooned from reality, that they just don’t give a damn, and there is no failing that can ever have any impact on their situation. But what is stopping a minister from breaking the chain of command and going to the coalface and get his answers for himself? What is stopping the government from creating new legislation that brings in accountability? What’s to stop a minister from introducing criminal negligence and charging people found to be accountable, where loss of life is proven?
Leo wants time !!! this case is going on since 2011, 7 years, he was a health minister and now Taoiseach .. And if Leo and Simon did not know ( i dont believe them ) then they should resign for not knowing abou State going to war with that poor woman for the last 7 years
prime ministers,heads of departments,ministers, td’s, garda commissioners, does not matter who you are on Irish gov payroll, does not matter how Incompetent, does not matter how much damage inflicted on innocent people, here is your pension & lump sum off you pop,,,GROSS
@Shane O Malley: Agreed Shane. Same with the bankers, auditors and those who inflicted real hardship, even death on the general public. The elite never pay.
This country is hazardous. If it’s not the cops , crap road infrastructure, shocking health service…it’s the governments complete incomoetency.
The government runs this state and is responsible for it’s people considering that tax they collect .
Redress isn’t much to those that have died, and not a lot of good to those women whose lives are shortened by government incompetence and couldn’t care less until caught attitude.
Copied from Journal.ie .. Proves Leo knew more
http://www.thejournal.ie/varadkar-cervicalcheck-3988626-May2018/#comment-7169130
Dara O’Brien
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@gregory: Dail debate is here if you want to read it – from 2008, Leo is a TD since 2007 and as a doctor, he would have been well aware of this debate.
“The method of screening done by Quest Diagnostics is not up to the same standard as the public labs in Ireland — this means that more Irish women will die” Sinn Féin’s, Aengus Ó Snodaigh warned the Dáil on May 29, 2008.
“Quest has won the tender to analyse 300,000 Irish smear tests a year, but consultant pathologists from the Coombe Women’s Hospital, St. James’s Hospital and St. Luke’s Hospital in Dublin, and University College Hospital in Galway stated that missed cases would arise because the diagnostic rate of pre-cancerous cells at Quest Diagnostics in the US is 30% less than that of Irish laboratories.
This concern has been echoed by the Irish Association for Clinical Cytology, IACC, which has expressed its disquiet at the decision to award the contract for cervical screening services to Quest, thereby excluding Irish laboratories. The IACC says this decision will have serious implications for the long-term quality of the cervical screening programme”
He continued
“The Irish Association for Clinical Cytology states that Irish laboratories provide a quality screening service as evidenced by comparison of incidence and mortality rates to other European countries…
There is significant concern that testing for this screening programme has been placed in the hands of a multinational giant that has been convicted of fraud in the US…Janette Byrne of the Patients Together campaigning group, said: “We would definitely question why public money is being given to a company that has been investigated for acting fraudulently in another country.”
It seems the Minister for Health and Children would rather listen to corporate executives in the private health business than to health experts and patients in Ireland. Not only are our health services being privatised, but jobs and services are being exported. Trained and trainee laboratory technicians in Ireland are being written off by this decision and many will have to emigrate to find work in the future”.
He added:
“During questions on the issue of the cervical cancer screening programme last October, my colleague, Deputy Ó Caolain, asked the Minister if it was preferable that the testing labs should be here. The Minister replied: “Yes, ideally we must have our own laboratory facilities in Ireland.” This does not seem to be the case now.
I have been contacted by a medical scientist, a constituent of mine, who has raised her concern at the outsourcing to Quest Diagnostics…The HSE has a sorry history with its privatisation agenda and she does not want to see it happening with laboratory services. She concluded by stating: “As a woman and mother of two daughters I am horrified to think that the standards of screening cervical smears are going to be reduced unnecessarily and put us at risk.”
The Minister must listen to such expert voices — those involved in the service, those working in the service and the patients who have to use the service”.
The government needs to do something no government since the formation of the state has ever done – start sacking the [thousands of] under performing civil/public servants. They need to stand up to the vested interests (includnig the unions) and serve the people of Ireland, not just the select few.
Can our politicians – regardless of their loyalties – not see that the public is sick and tired of one branch after another of the civil/pubic service failing, being corrupt, wallowing in incompetence, holding the public to ransom…. a number of senior people need to go.
@Tom Purcell: If the Public were sick and tired of it FG would be getting hammered in the polls and so would FF.
They’re not. The public don’t care. Reform and sacking corrupt or negligent civil servants simply isn’t something the public give a hoot about.
@Stephen Adam: Polls ? who does these polls and we never seem to get a breakdown of how many are polled etc. like the useless Claire Byrne polls of 1000 people which is a very small percentage of the population.
Agree that FF have alot to answer for proping up this shower, they should pull down this Goverment and let the people of Ireland choose
@Irish Bob: so it’s your position bob that the polls are wrong? And that actually – who? Sinn Fein? Are actually ahead?
I loath FFFGLab – the scandals and mismanagement are a disgrace. But let’s be realistic. The majority of the country will return these parties to office.
@Stephen Adam: Try polling women. Not just “suitable” candidates.
@Dave Doyle: I’m not sure what that means Dave. Are you suggesting the polls are doctored? If that were true we wouldn’t have had decades of FFFG mismanagement. But we have.
@Stephen Adam: You mean to tell me you actually believe the polls are managed accordingly without any doctoring of numbers?
You leave that comment under a news story about more shameful scandal in Ireland?
The politicians of this state, the judicial system, law enforcement and medical services are all corrupt to the core and a disgrace!
@Kirk Loco: I believe information which supports the facts. When the polls say FF FG have 50% of the vote and they also have 50% of the Dail – and we’ve been electing them for a century – well yes I believe the polls.
If the polls said the social democrats and Renua were going to take 50% or the next Dail I wouldn’t believe them.
Will FG handle it as well as the church redress?
I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Fg or FF couldn’t care less.
No faith in either.
Apologies and a redress scheme ,anything from fanning the flames of public discontent .varadkar is up to his neck in this ,he has been flip flopping through this already tired administration .he is the same old plastic politician we have become accustomed to in ireland ,he will i presume cap his tenure off by offering another big goodie bag at the next election .Whatever happened to the great democratic revolution ,gombeens
@Anthony Gallagher: Look at the photo, even now in this dark dank place Irish politics finds itself in – he is thinking about image, surrounding himself with women. Two to the left and two to the front. It’s all about presenting the right image and the optics have to be positive. That speaks volumes to me. Bigger shame on the pawn TDs for allowing themselves to be used in that regard.
@SilentFugitive: agree ,i think if leo had any real leadership qualities he would be standing or sitting on the front row .he looks very much like he is being protected .when your in command command and to me that is taking pole position .leo would appear to have a lot of self doubt .he is being paid a very handsome salary its time he proved to the country he is worth it .
What did you know slimeball???
Say nothing we just might get through this. Don’t mention money, only the only the cost to go back and have it done. Don’t forget to say we were never told or I cant remember.
Rather than paying off the women, maybe the former minister for health might instigate a proper inquiry?
If it wasn’t for the courageous Vicky phelan highlighting the way she was horribly treated by the state it would of been business as usual for Leo and his incompetent government what the people don’t know won’t hurt them, shame on you Leo
Too many Administrators in the HSE. There needs to be a purge. Plain and Simple.
What a disgustingly hollow and self serving Bass turd this clown is, people have died for Christ’s sake, what where the reasons behind these Laboratories getting this work? Who organized the deal? Was this companies numerous class actions considered during the tender process? Redress ? That won’t bring people back, money hasn’t and never will clean up the middle management/civil servant cesspool that is the HSE?! This horribly inexperienced unelected leader of the Irish people has been a Doctor and Minister for health!? I’m guessing this clown became a politician to circumvent his obvious hippocratic oath failings. Ethical Pledges and behaviours!? Do yourselves a favour don’t associate this criminal with either and don’t look in the Dail for them either. Disgusting liar.
How about a redress scheme for those whom we’re held in cervitude in all of Ireland’s “Holly Labour Camp’s” concidering you get nothing for LPT these day’s love to see the council’s pay this over as componsation,,,for the brutality shown by state and religouse orders.
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