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Eamon Ryan: Toxic debates and social media hate 'didn't impinge on real life'

Ryan said he regrets any remarks that might have fed into the idea that there is a divide between environmentalists and people living in rural areas.

FORMER GREEN PARTY leader Eamon Ryan has said that political attacks and hate on social media “never impinged on real life”, saying that his personal relationships with people from outside of Dublin are intact despite accusations from opponents that he is against rural Ireland.

In a wide-ranging interview with journalists before Christmas, the outgoing climate minister also said that, in hindsight, the Green Party should have “kicked back” more against hate and disinformation that was levelled against it during its time in Government. 

Ryan said he regrets any remarks that might have fed into the idea that there is a divide between environmentalists and people living in rural areas.

“I’ll hold my hands up. There are things I said, which I regret now, that maybe fed into an existing trope of Greens versus rural Ireland that I don’t believe is true,” he said.

“It’s such an easy trope to fall into that I think I’d be all the more guarded trying to avoid that. You talk about reintroducing wolves, for instance, which has a real logic to it, but that scared a lot of horses. I was on an early morning TV show where I was talking about car sharing and that was read as, ‘you want us to get out of our cars in rural Ireland’. That did real damage looking back,” he reflected.

He added, though, that you also “have to be careful not to be too careful” or risk being too guarded in “everything you say”. 

During their time in Government, the Greens faced political and personal pushback that sometimes went far beyond criticism of their policies, escalating to abuse on social media and in real life.

In November, the party’s current leader Roderic O’Gorman was assaulted during the election campaign.

In hindsight, Ryan said the Greens should have perhaps pushed back harder against some of the hate that they received.

“Maybe one of the lessons is, to certain extent, that we might have kicked back a bit more,” he said.

He recalled having an office near Kerry TD Danny Healy Rae while he was in opposition, saying that Healy-Rae “speaks like my grandfather, who lived with me for 15 years… hearing him was like being at home for me”.

“I was on very good terms with him. I still am. But to a certain extent, I think it served their purposes to go on the attack. To a certain extent, I let that go, because I know Danny, we’re still on good terms, it’s not personal.

“I felt that, in the last five years in particular, yes, you’d be attacked – but I spent a lot of time in rural Ireland. I have friends right around the country. So you might be getting attacked on social media but it didn’t ever stop me having a pint with a friend in Donegal or Connemara. It never really impinged on real life,” Ryan said.

If a friend in real life was disappointed and personally upset by something, then you’d be stopped in your tracks, but that wasn’t my experience in personal engagements.

“I think in hindsight, maybe we should have kicked back a bit more and say, hold on a second, this is absolute rubbish. But the problem you have is that if you spend your time fighting back against narratives, then you’re not spending your time speaking about what you want to speak about, you’re just spending your whole time on the defensive. I felt, just speak your truth and don’t be reactive,” he said.

Discussing the level of abuse on social media platforms, Ryan said he noticed from around 2020 a rise of “rogue individuals” and what he believes to be a “coordinated campaign” of hate.

He said those people are not representative of society at large but that they do “poison the well of public thinking about you”.

“I’ve never, ever blocked anyone, personally, except one person, because this guy started going after me relentlessly. I remember two or three days after my father died, this person posted something really derogatory about my father. That was the only person I’ve ever blocked, because that went way beyond anything that’s acceptable.”

The antidote to hate and disinformation on social media, he said, is investing more in traditional media, especially local media, adding that the outgoing government should have made stronger decisions about funding for media.

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    Mute John Sheahan
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    Nov 27th 2020, 9:38 PM

    In fairness I very rarely have issues with Vodafone broadband.

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    Nov 27th 2020, 9:40 PM

    @John Sheahan: me either. Had a short outage in County Wex earlier. It’s back now.

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    Mute Santa
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    Nov 27th 2020, 10:14 PM

    Vodafone are brilliant. 1 minor issue and the big spoilt boys and girls have a melt down because they can’t watch the toyshow. FFS, if that’s your biggest issue then life ain’t 1/2 bad.

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    Mute Daire Hanrahan
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    Nov 27th 2020, 10:29 PM

    @Santa: totally agree, very rarely are there any issues with their service

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    Nov 28th 2020, 2:55 AM

    @Santa: Minor issue? I was an hour on h old waiting for customer service during which my 2 kids were asking every 5 minutes when will the WiFi be back. I was a Virgin media customer and never had these problems.

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    Nov 28th 2020, 5:15 AM

    @Bramer: what a life and death situation you were in I hope things worked out for you with this serious first world problem

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    Nov 28th 2020, 12:47 PM

    @Bramer: yes its minor and the more people who ring them the longer their response times.

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    Nov 27th 2020, 10:01 PM

    Just don’t bother with the RTE player. Awful app but the adds play perfectly.

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    Nov 27th 2020, 11:42 PM

    @tottkingham: vpn mate. No ads. Works beautifully along with bbc iPlayer all 4 and itv, netflix most radio players to on your phone.
    Do yourself a favor. Vpn.

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    Nov 28th 2020, 7:36 AM

    @De Green Parrot: which vpn app do you use?

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    Nov 28th 2020, 4:24 PM

    @tottkingham: or use brave. Best out of the box ad blocking browser.

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    Nov 27th 2020, 9:43 PM

    Absolutely shocking service from Vodafone tonight. But to be honest very poor service from them in general recently. After 20 years I’m Seriously considering whether or not to continue with this crowd of changers

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    Nov 27th 2020, 9:44 PM

    @Johnny Casey: I think one outage or issue in 20 years is fairly good service, no?

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    Nov 27th 2020, 9:49 PM

    @Johnny Casey: are you having a meltdown because you’re going to miss late late toy show

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    Nov 27th 2020, 10:04 PM

    @Mary OGorman McGuire: I spent three weeks without my broadband. They sent an engineer to check the outside line TWICE in a week to check the outside line and the line into the house. Booth times he told them lines were fine, faulty modem. Took my parent modem (as I needed it for work) which worked perfectly, then spent another 6weeks arguing to get a new modem sent. I wouldn’t call that great!! My modem was 5 yrs old. Hardly required about 50 phone calls and paying an engineer for two visits (who looked completely baffled on his second visit)

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    Nov 27th 2020, 10:21 PM

    @Johnny Casey: yeah, frequent outages here recently too, affecting my ability to work.

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    Nov 27th 2020, 10:27 PM

    @Johnny Casey: with them 20 plus years, to be fair these situations don’t happen very often with Vodafone and I live in an area with no broadband only Wi-Fi

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    Nov 27th 2020, 11:42 PM

    @Johnny Casey: get on digiweb. Vodafone is a joke.

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    Nov 28th 2020, 10:24 AM

    @De Green Parrot: Dodgyweb are rubbish, those Fritzbox routers are a joke along with their support, logged a business support call and still waiting for a response. Its far longer now than the 72 hours they claim and they have ignored subsequent update requests.

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    Nov 27th 2020, 9:50 PM

    Its back working so they did their job much thanks.

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    Nov 27th 2020, 10:52 PM

    With them 4 years, this is the first issue I’ve had with them, siht happens though doesn’t it? Some serious First World Problem people on the Vodafone Twitter account today! It’s grand now again anyway.

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    Nov 27th 2020, 9:45 PM

    If you’re able to, change your DNS settings in your router to something like Google’s: 8.8.8.8 for primary and 8.8.1.1 for secondary. If you don’t know how to do this then wait for Vodafone to resolve the issue I guess. This fixed it for me though.

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    Nov 27th 2020, 9:54 PM

    @Limited Edition: I changed to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

    Works fine…. Though connections slightly slower.

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    Nov 28th 2020, 12:53 AM

    Did anyone actually read the 2nd last sentence? Lol

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    Nov 28th 2020, 8:21 AM

    @Frank Flanagan: wait until you read the 23rd, it’s a doozy

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    Nov 27th 2020, 11:02 PM

    I’m with them over 20 years and outages happen but very rarely!

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    Nov 27th 2020, 10:44 PM

    Now it makes sense! In fairness generally super service from Vodafone!

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    Nov 27th 2020, 9:44 PM

    Well mine keeps dropping every hour during work so it’s not the best but at least it has very few outages.

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    Nov 27th 2020, 11:47 PM

    We were out for a couple of hours, but in fairness this is 1st time having a problem

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    Nov 27th 2020, 11:58 PM

    @яα¢нєℓ: 5 yrs using Vodafone TV & Internet. three outages, one pre-notification email sent for 6 hr outage (was back in 4 ) 3 years ago. One this Tues for 1hr and the longer one today. Generally very good service, have used in 2 households (we carried our service over/ seamless transfer)

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    Nov 27th 2020, 9:49 PM

    Change your DNS server to 8.8.8.8 on your device, that will fix it until Vodafone resolve it. Don’t forget to set back to auto after Vodafone fix it.

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    Nov 27th 2020, 10:46 PM

    They had a deadline and hit it so fair play. Would have been a disaster otherwise. I’m with VM and I was without internet for about 5 days recently and I work from home. No other option where I’m living.

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    Nov 27th 2020, 11:34 PM

    I had vodafone gigabit broadband installed yesterday, only started the contract today so I was thinking crap, I shouldn’t have changed providers. I read through the instructions and, I guess as well as the outage today, the guy that installed the fibre used the wrong cable from the router to the modem. Great first impression.

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    Nov 27th 2020, 11:46 PM

    @Laura Halpenny: I just got rid of vodafone gigabit. Every night between 7-11 The speed dropped to 10mb from 1000. Foght my way out of the contract only with them for 2 months. Anyway. With digiweb now. All good. But never again will I go near vodafone. Weeks of telling them the same story and they keep telling me it’s on my end.

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    Nov 27th 2020, 11:51 PM

    @Laura Halpenny: The gigabit service is SIRO. the modem is installed at wall at entry to the fibre cable and has a separate power cable that plugs in to closest socket. Its a standard LAN cable connecting that to the router. Amazing they messed that up

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    Nov 28th 2020, 2:52 AM

    @De Green Parrot: Are you an ad for digiweb?

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    Mute Laura Halpenny
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    Nov 28th 2020, 9:05 AM

    @John Murray: hi john…I looked at the instructions after and for the gigabit one you have to install the WAN cable from the LAN port on the router – he should’ve read the instructions- I did lol

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    Nov 28th 2020, 9:54 AM

    I received a call from Vodafone customer service yesterday to send me out a brand new Huawei P40 pro, they just wanted me to call out my IBAN number to them over the phone before they could send it on to me..
    They sent me a text while talking to verify its them…what does anyone think of this ?

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    Nov 28th 2020, 10:13 AM

    I don’t have sky so while internet down stuck with rte

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    Nov 28th 2020, 7:10 PM

    Ppl still use Vodafone?
    Seriously, why?

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    Nov 27th 2020, 9:56 PM

    Can’t complain about Vodafone never had problem before tonight.

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