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Harris says European court ruling on tax defaulters needs 'detailed consideration' by Govt

The Justice Minister said that he wanted to see the list system continue.

THE JUSTICE MINISTER has said that the Government needs to consider potential impacts to publishing the quarterly tax defaulter list, following a ruling by the European Court of Human Rights last month. 

A ruling by the European Court last month found that publishing names and addresses of tax defaulters was “unjustified”, following a case taken by a Hungarian businessman against the Hungarian Government.

This ruling potentially impacts on the ability of Revenue to publish their quarterly tax defaulters list, which has been ongoing since 1983.

Justice Minister Simon Harris said that he believed there needed to be “detailed consideration” around the ruling and that he wanted to see the naming and shaming of tax defaulters continued.

“I think it definitely needs detailed consideration,” Harris said.

“My gut on this is that the naming of defaulters in Ireland has always been a tool used by Revenue and indeed it was introduced by the Fine Gael-led government as an effective and important tool.

I’d like to see it continue.

“If you don’t pay your taxes here in the country, I think it’s important that the community that you live in and which you benefit from public services, that people are aware of that.”

Harris added that the Government will have to receive legal advice on how best to proceed.

In the case, the Hungarian businessman – who remained anonymous – argued that the publication of his name and address was an “infringement of his right to respect for private life”.

The businessman also argued that the real purpose of the defaulters list was for “shaming and public humiliation”, in particular focusing in on the media attention that surrounded the lists.

“This public shaming list was a modern form of pillory, was extremely humiliating and caused huge distress,” he argued.

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    Mute Hugh O'Keeffe
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    Jan 24th 2021, 8:23 AM

    People need training on these platforms. Anyone wishing to attend a zoom school session should be left in the lobby until invited by the presenter. Provide BASIC training and this won’t happen.

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    Mute Gareth Murran
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    Jan 24th 2021, 10:09 AM

    @Hugh O’Keeffe: 100% this is such a trivial thing to resolve it raises serious questions about the training and advice being provided to the less tech savvy teachers.

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    Mute Paul Furey
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    Jan 24th 2021, 10:16 AM

    @Hugh O’Keeffe: I’m guessing (and as per the article) that most break ins is because of someone making public the link complete with password……or as horrifying as it sounds, could it be a relative of one of the children.

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    Mute OConnelj
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    Jan 24th 2021, 7:49 AM

    My faith in humanity is being eroded bit by bit every day. What motivates these sickos?

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    Mute Paul Clarke
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    Jan 24th 2021, 8:01 AM

    I’m not familiar with zoom or meet but these platforms need to have ability to kick and ban unwanted attendees at a minimum.

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    Mute Tony Gordon
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    Jan 24th 2021, 9:29 AM

    As for all lockdowns so far, no fear of this as our school hasn’t bothered with a single online class for any of my children

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    Mute Erica Mcniece
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    Jan 24th 2021, 10:06 AM

    @Tony Gordon: Have you considered ringing the principal about this? If not,then you should. I am teaching all my classes everyday online via zoom. Students need it.

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    Mute Proinsias Ó Fearghail
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    Jan 24th 2021, 10:41 AM

    @Tony Gordon: very,very surprised to hear this. In my area,all schools are online. Maybe contact the principal about this?

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    Mute nero
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    Jan 24th 2021, 9:39 AM

    Go back to class rooms. Problem solved

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    Mute Derek Walsh
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    Jan 24th 2021, 9:44 AM

    @nero: You’re a genius. Why has nobody else thought of that? Hmmm

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    Mute Paul Clarke
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    Jan 24th 2021, 8:03 AM

    I’m not familiar with zoom or meet but these platforms need to have ability to kick and ban unwanted attendees at a minimum.

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    Mute In fairness now...
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    Jan 24th 2021, 9:32 AM

    @Paul Clarke: Zoom does have that ability. Why bother comment on a subject that you don’t have a clue about? Never ceased to amaze me how people think we want to hear every little thought that comes their head.

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    Mute Sorcha Ní Shúilleabháin
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    Jan 24th 2021, 9:41 AM

    @In fairness now…: …and the award for most obnoxious comment of the year so far goes to the faceless troll in row two!

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    Mute Caddyshack
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    Jan 24th 2021, 9:56 AM

    @In fairness now…: why did you bother saying something so rude?

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    Jan 24th 2021, 10:07 AM

    @In fairness now…: Thanks, you have just proved my point.

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    Jan 24th 2021, 10:15 AM

    @Caddyshack: Forgive me for reading a news article and expecting some intelligent debate. Instead, most of the posts any thoughts that come into people’s head.
    I personally don’t need to know every single thought a person might have. We already have Facebook for that This is supposed to be a news outlet.
    I seem to have upset those people who think differently.

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    Mute Sorcha Ní Shúilleabháin
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    Jan 24th 2021, 10:25 AM

    @In fairness now…: You chose to denegrate rather than educate. There’s no defense for that level of repugnance.

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    Mute Jim Lingk
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    Jan 24th 2021, 11:23 AM

    @In fairness now…: why don’t the teachers use this then, you ‘tard?

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    Mute Jim Lingk
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    Jan 24th 2021, 11:28 AM

    @In fairness now…: You didn’t upset me. The article doesn’t go into detail but there are only two conclusions you could reasonably draw – the software isn’t fit for purpose and doesn’t allow enough control OR teachers don’t know how to use it.

    And if it’s the second one (which it now obviously is) then it’s either down to lack of training or the incompetence of some teachers, or a bit of both.

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    Jan 24th 2021, 12:55 PM

    Teachers very poorly trained on IT and online platforms here! No training whatsoever carried out

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    Mute Jim Lingk
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    Jan 24th 2021, 9:29 AM

    Sounds like the system here is rubbish or the teachers don’t know how to use it.

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    Mute Derek Walsh
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    Jan 24th 2021, 9:46 AM

    @Jim Lingk: The teachers don’t know how to use it. Zoom has a waiting room so they can vet who gets in, and meetings can be password protected so people can’t simply check random meeting IDs.

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    Mute Jim Lingk
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    Jan 24th 2021, 11:25 AM

    @Derek Walsh: I would have assumed as much, any of these types of services I’ve used (WebEx mostly) have that functionality. And they are reasonably intuitive to use.

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    Jan 24th 2021, 2:21 PM

    Does that mean there is a possibility they’re being watched without realising, before being bombed?

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    Mute Jim Lingk
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    Jan 24th 2021, 2:41 PM

    @Peter: Yes.

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