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Updated at 5.55pm
GARDAÍ HAVE ARRIVED at the scene of a protest over the imminent closure of a homeless hostel in Dublin’s south inner city.
John’s Lane West hostel – which contains 42 beds for homeless people – is due to close its doors today to be redeveloped into more long-term accommodation for homeless people.
The building – which is owned by Focus Ireland and operated by it and the Peter McVerry Trust – was opened in winter 2014 as part of the crisis response to the issue of homelessness in Dublin following the death of Jonathan Corrie outside the Dáil.
Housing activists from the group An Spréach protested outside the building today – which sits just off Thomas Street close to the National College of Art and Design – while a number of residents are still inside.
Arriving at the scene a short while ago, gardaí in a van are stationed outside the building but have not taken any action to remove protesting residents.
It is understood that negotiations between Focus Ireland and residents situated inside the building are ongoing.
Speaking to TheJournal.ie by phone from inside the building, Rosemary Hughes – who has been resident at the hostel for three months – said that she would not be leaving until she was given a guarantee of further accommodation.
“I’m not going anywhere until this is sorted,” she said.
Hughes – who is visually impaired and has a guide dog – said that she is remaining in her room with another resident. She said there were about 15 other residents inside the building doing the same thing.
Things are a bit tense here at the moment.
In a statement, Focus Ireland said that a number of people who had stayed in the hostel last night had refused to leave the premises this morning until they were told where they could stay tonight.
“The staff in the premises have now confirmed alternative accommodation tonight for all of these people,” said Focus.
It also said that protesters who “were not using the service” had now entered the building and that residents who have accommodation confirmed for tonight are also still refusing to leave.
“Focus Ireland staff are now working to resolve this situation with the customers and the outside protesters so that the development work on the building can progress as quickly as possible,” the organisation said.
Long-term housing
Activists from An Spréach were protesting outside the hostel building this morning with signs and placards.
Speaking to TheJournal.ie, Laurence Vize, a representative from the group, said that they were there to support the residents.
“42 people are being put out on the street by the closure of this hostel.” said Vize.
Vize said that there were “two issues” being raised by the closure: the situation of the residents in there now and the issue of the wider homeless crisis in general.
“Even if these people here do get accommodated tonight there’s still 42 other people who will have no accommodation if this building closes,” he said.
Development
Focus Ireland said last month that it would be closing the hostel, which is located in a former factory building.
The building is scheduled to be demolished and replaced by a development of 31 apartments for the long-term accommodation of people who are homeless.
“The use of the building as emergency accommodation was always understood by the DRHE and the voluntary sector partners as a short-term measure to make best use of the premises until the scheduled building work began,” the organisation said.
It also said that planning permission for the site requires that the new apartments be completed by the end of 2017.
The start of July is the latest date for the redevelopment project to begin to ensure the much needed homes are provided by the end of next year as required.
An Spréach activists said this morning that they would march later to Focus Ireland headquarters to protest against the closure.
“Peaceful occupation”
Rosemary Hughes told TheJournal.ie this morning that no proper alternative accommodation had been sourced for residents.
“There is currently a peaceful occupation of the hostel underway,” said Hughes.
There are currently about 15 to 20 people here who don’t want to leave.
Hughes said that she would refuse to leave the hostel until a suitable alternative was offered.
“We want suitable accommodation, we want respect… and to be treated like human beings,” she said.
A spokesperson for the Dublin Regional Homeless Executive – which manages homless services for Dublin City Council - told TheJournal.ie that alternative accommodation for people at John’s Lane ”has and continues to be secured” and that planning permissoin to re-develop the site would run out expire by next year.
“Alternative accommodation for the people currently using the service has and continues to be secured with Dublin City Council Homeless Central Placement Service and the providers Focus Ireland, Peter McVerry Trust.
There have been long-term plans for this building and the service provided at Johns Lane West was an interim provision.
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People have not forgotten about Rabbitte, Burton et Al – Labour will be consigned to the dustbin of history after the next general election. Connolly and Larkin would turn in their graves.
@McMurphy: does anyone know Ivana tinkle
@McMurphy:
You do know they are dead?
Connolly was a wife beater and Larkin did a runner with the union funds.
@H Woo: Of course he knows they’re dead, he said turning in their grave, can you provide evidence of the claims you’ve made or are you just making up stuff in your little brain
@H Woo: You do know what the saying “turning in their graves” means, don’t you?
Liebour’s pledges, for those with short memories , say what you will to get elected and then , bite the hand that feeds you. All for water charges Kelly, Burton for attacks on single parents and not forgetting Pat R for say what it takes to get elected and then you know your self, renege. We’ve heard it all before.
Well sure we only need to look at Fine Gael and Labour’s biggest house building strategy in the history of this state in 2015, still waiting on it and that is why Labour is where Labour is.
@Brian D’Arcy:
Shira Fein have not met their home building promises in the six counties yet again.
@H Woo: I presume you were attempting to say Sharia but as you failed in that, there is no point in attempting to educate you on how the Irish were treated just like peoole like treat Muslim’s now, those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it.
@Brian D’Arcy: And what do you have to say about the way Muslims have treated non-Muslims throughput history? Stop elevating Muslims to some uniquely persecuted class. They’re not. And they certainly can not claim any higher moral authority than others.
@Brian D’Arcy: it’s called auto correct. Islam is a cult, even more dangerous than the Catholic Church ever was. They do the exact same thing to children and will slay any non believer in their path.
‘90% of primary schools still under to control of religious orders’
Indoctrination plain and simple. Can you imagine any other organisation with their track record being let anywhere near a school again?! Not a hope. Unfortunately we’ve still far too many passive, go with the flow types allowing this to continue. Religion should be an adult decision. If you are grown up and decide to join up then fair enough. Polluting kids brains with anachronistic Bronze Age rubbish is wrong on so many fronts.
@SerotoninWars: governmental indoctrination is no less dangerous
@Oh Mammy: There are many forms of abuse and bad practise for sure. The tension between aspiring for widespread human rights and the fact some people will find it offensive is a problem without a solution. The best we can do is have open and democratic societies with a big space for discussion and expression. The line between one persons right to express their opinion and another’s right to not be abused or bullied is very thin though. It’s tightrope stuff that needs continuous attention.
@SerotoninWars: as I simply said, governmental indoctrination is no less dangerous than any other type of indoctrination.
@Oh Mammy: Life, ethics, politics, beliefs, standards and morals aren’t simple though. They’re evolving, sometimes devolving areas that are usually contentious to some group. Governmental indoctrination is far too vague a term to reply with a basic yes/no answer. There are groups who believe in zero government, no laws, no guidelines whatsoever even if there are usually a few areas most people agree we should have some common laws and standpoints on. Indoctrination is a highly subjective term. Taking humans at their youngest, most malleable stage and filling their heads with some very strange and specific beliefs that wouldn’t be given the time of day if they didn’t fall under religion, is indoctrination though, no question.
@SerotoninWars: I say this as an atheist who requested an opt out of religion for my kids, I think there are more pressing issues with schools, lack of teachers, lack of places for children with additional needs, lack of spaces in general for children in their areas.
While a child may have to attend a school with a religious ethos, I don’t know any schools now that force the issue. I know plenty of parents who opted out their children from doing religion, and found it was parents wanting their children to do religion so they could have the “day out” for communion and confirmation. Local school had looked into divesting and it was actually the parents that voted against it.
@SerotoninWars: I’d also add, would you say the same to a family who strictly adhere to the Muslim religion? Female children wearing a hijab in primary school, who practice Ramadan?
@Mary Kelly: I understand where you are coming from on some levels. Also that people are finding life pretty exhausting as it is, so taking on more fights especially when it involves sticking your head above the crowd, is a bit of a pain. But there’s also the reality of the situation. Can you imagine ANY other vested interest group with THAT track record being allowed to swan in and present theirs highly partisan, hugely strange take on life and existence at such an important developmental stage? It’s crazy!
Anyone who is willing to give up that amount of power and control for a ‘day out’ is a lazy sheep who honestly doesn’t really deserve consideration in a serious conversation.
@Mary Kelly: I would say the same to everyone.
Including those who practice their version of Lent (Ramadan).
@Mary Kelly: Yes, I would, 100%. I’ve met plenty of nice Muslims who like many Christian’s go along with it because it’s always been there, they grew up with it, had it drilled in from an early age etc. Pure inertia comes into it too. But I feel very strongly that this should be an adult decision. Not something foisted on kids. They are too young to have this big label slapped on them when they don’t have any of the life experience or knowledge to make an informed decision. It’s an abuse of power forcing kids into any unscientific, unverifiable and highly dubious faith.
@SerotoninWars: I agree there should be no religion at all in schools, that this is something that is part of children’s home life. I never had a problem in my kids schools requesting an opt out from religion, principal kids were opted out too, it was actually other parents commentary and the lame excuse of pleasing grandparents and thinking their kids would miss out. Most of the kids hadn’t been in a church since their own baptism. I recall in my eldest sons class a parent telling me I was mean spirited for not letting him do his communion, I said he was worshipping the gods of football as we brought him to a premiership game the weekend of the communion! 9 years later and none of his mates remember anything of their day but he remembers his trip
@SerotoninWars: Given the track record of the church and reluctance to pay any compensation to their victims, the schools should be simply taken off of them and put under 100% state control.
A few (10% ?) can be left for the parents still living in the past and that’s it.
In 10 years, all religious managed school should be 100% privately funded.
@SerotoninWars: ok, point towards the evidence that stipulates how earth and man kind was created if it wasn’t by a ‘god’
@Wolfgang Bonow: I take it you don’t seek medical treatment in the majority of Irish hospitals in the state?
@Wolfgang Bonow: I’m a life long atheist and I really don’t know if giving the state 100% control over our kids minds is such a good idea. Not least because of what we’ve seen recently with the Family A debacle. Truly frightening.
@SerotoninWars: No such thing as nice muslims when it comes to what prevail. The Quran is clear, Islam first, everything comes after. Of their goal is to spread Islam, they won’t spare you. Most monotheistic religions are bad, Islam takes the lead for the last century. The only religion who shakes hands with Hitler and promised him to remove from life all the Jews they could find.
@Mary Kelly: Yes I can imagine! On this one issue I get why the believers have a problem too. It’s a bit daft to do nothing, attend nothing, put nothing into practise and then show up for the photo opportunities! It’s wishy washy to put it as nicely as I can. Maybe some would argue that it’s good that the control has lessened but what’s the point of doing the the Hollywood stuff if you don’t even believe in the rest of it enough to shake a leg the rest of the time? Why put the kids through it and sign them up for membership of something with a history like that? Again it’s impossible to separate it from the stories we’ve heard this week, on the back of many many others over the years. Although I’m not sure I’ve read anything as extremely depraved as the stuff that came out this week. I’m not easily shocked but that was a level of brutality, barbarism, exploitation and perversion that truly sickened. Pure evil.
@Wolfgang Bonow: With their track record there should be a barring order. I get that there’s some kind people in there but when the worse possible abuse has been that institutionalised and so recently, it’s simply insane that they get to have such a huge involvement still. The sole reason is that they fall under the big ‘R’ and get all of the allowances, validation and unearned respect that incredibly, still come with the territory and uniform.
@Alex: I’m not into religion at all. However I can separate the people who fall under the cultural and traditional umbrella of the religion they fell into, from the die-hards, literalists and people who only want the most regressive of steps taken. I’m not saying it makes sense how people can turn such a blind eye and cherry pick. But there are so many like this, in all religions. They want the nice bits and ‘the hope’. I might not agree with them but I’ve met too many decent people to castigate all of them as bad individuals, as opposed to banine passengers hoping for the best, as they understand things.
@Wolfgang Bonow: another clown
@SerotoninWars: so how do you explain the creation of earth and all mankind etc?
@Niall English: There are huge amounts of information out there about evolution, planet formations, star formations, physics, biology and so on. far too much to fit into a quick response here. We already cleared one hurdle with our understanding of evolution and how life modifies and adapts over time.
We don’t have all the answers. No one would claim that but over time we have been slowly but surely getting rid of our superstitious and irrational beliefs about why certain things happen and occur. Perhaps some questions are too big to know the full answer to. This doesn’t mean we get a free pass to insert any wild theories we want in there. We can think about them and test them of course but incredible claims require incredible evidence. That is sorely missing from the god theory. It doesn’t add up on so many fronts and simply opens another set of arguably even bigger questions to answer. In the context of this thread, I was referring to the supposed representatives of ‘god’ who aren’t exactly the best advertisement for organised religion.
Why is labour supporting people to stay in free state funded accommodation, who have lived for free there for years, have had their chance to build their lives (and savings) over those who have newly arrived and stuck in hotels and renovated offices?!!
@Mary Kelly: Give it over!
@Patrick Hamill: Great rebuttal, Patrick. You truly are a master(de)bater.
@Mary Kelly: They shouldn’t even be there in the first place, Mary. European countries who opened their doors have learned the hard way and Ireland will follow suit. Hard right govt incoming within five years. Watch this space.
We all know what Labour election promises are worth:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/14r5ay/pat_rabbitte_isnt_that_what_you_tend_to_do_during/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
A jurno some time back asked Comrade leader of the Labour Party about her choosing to use private fee paying schools.
I missed the answer she gave?
What is this nonsense. Woman is having a flaming giraffe.
Labour, are more right-wing when they get into power that FG, as we have seen in the past… and if they get into power after the next Election the country will pay for years
Not a word about climate change. Typical.
@Brian O’Brendan: I’m not surprised given that Ireland is responsible for 0.004 of the worlds green house gas. Almost nothing we can do about it.
@Dave Grant: If every small place worked in unison we could make a big difference. A 1000 voices make a big choir. Don’t belittle yourself or the power of your actions.
@Sean O’Dhubhghaill: 0.004 Toral
@Dave Grant: Wrong, of course.
@Sean O’Dhubhghaill: id rather enjoy living my life as opposed to worrying about what rubbish goes in what bin. 9% of the world’s population recycles. take a trip to Africa and have a look at their waste management programs.
@Niall English: Horrible attitude to have, I’d say your house is a tip
@Niall English: exactly. Worrying about nonsense
@Niall English: Surprisingly, I lived in Africa for 2 years. NOTHING WAS WASTED!
@Niall English: Africans would put us to shame when it comes to waste management, at least, those who have moved here do anyway. They would teach us a thing or too.
Double the dole for slappers if they go on the pill or IUD.
That will end child “homelessness “
@Paul: An now Paul.
Shur you would not be with us then.
@Paul: Disgusting
@Paul: sicko
Labour can spout whatever they want but they will NEVER get a sniff of a vote from me ever again, lies lies lies, that’s all they have to offer.
Can we comment now? …fantastic, how nice of you
Who or what is Labour?
Is that her 1st time on da northside?
Labour can say what they like because they will get a chance to implement anything… Muppets.
Remember what they did for a bit of power. And it does not add up: ending child homelessness… Or ending Homelessness when you have children ? But not the others ?
Typical leftists. Don’t trust them
Of course they will.
Nope
In all fairness we won’t have divorce abortion free love without labour, keep voting gfg and u will kill your your choices
@Robert Halvey: What?
@Robert Halvey: in fairness free love is what it says free.. the other two had to be achieved through years of hard work and the will of the majority of the people voting for it instead of being told by religious nut jobs what people should do with their lives … you know the types that have ran schools for years
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