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A REPORT PUBLISHED today shows that some 54 countries helped to facilitate the CIA’s secret detention, rendition and interrogation programme in the years after 9/11, including Ireland.
The report by the Open Society Justice Initiative said the countries participated in these operations in various ways, including by hosting CIA prisons on their territories; detaining, interrogating, torturing, and abusing individuals; assisting in the capture and transport of detainees and permitting the use of domestic airspace and airports for secret flights transporting detainees.
It also said some provided intelligence leading to the secret detention and extraordinary rendition of individuals; and participated in interrogating individuals who were secretly being held in the custody of other governments.
Foreign governments also failed to protect detainees from secret detention and extraordinary rendition on their territories and to conduct effective investigations into agencies and officials who participated in these operations, according to the report.
The report comments on Ireland permitting the use of its airspace and airports associated with CIA extraordinary rendition operations and references several examples since 2002.
Concern
The European Parliament, the Council of Europe and the United Nations have all expressed concern over the years about Ireland’s alleged cooperation in the CIA rendition program.
A 2007 European Parliament report expressed serious concern about the 147 stopover made by CIA-operated aircraft at Irish airports that on many occasions “came from or were bound for countries linked with extraordinary rendition circuits and the transfer of detainees”.
U.S. court records from a lawsuit involving Richmor Aviation, a company that operated CIA extraordinary rendition flights, also show that at least 13 flights operated by Richmor involving U.S. personnel landed in Ireland between 2002 and 2004.
Richmor-operated flights were involved in the extraordinary rendition of the Egyptian cleric Abu Omar, and are also suspected of having refueled at Shannon before transporting Abd al Nashiri, alleged to be the mastermind of the bombing of the navy missile destroyer the USS Cole .
Diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks in 2010 revealed that former Irish Foreign Affairs Minister Dermot Ahern told US Ambassador Thomas Foley that he was “quite convinced that at least three flights involving renditions had refueled at Shannon Airport before or after conducting renditions elsewhere.”
Government “acted to ensure continued US military transits”
Other cables revealed that former U.S. Ambassador James Kenny noted in 2006 that the Irish government had “acted to ensure continued US military transits at Shannon in the face of public criticism” despite public concern that the airport was being used for extraordinary rendition flights.
The government responded to concerns by the Irish Human Rights Commission in 2005 that inspections were not necessary because it had received assurances from the United States that detainees had not been and would not be transported illegally through Irish territory.
In 2011 the UN Committee against Torture also said it was concerned about the “inadequate response by the government with regard to investigating theses allegations.
The report recommends that the governments involved refuse to participate in the CIA’s detention and rendition programme and disclose all information relating to human rights violations. It also urges governments to conduct investigations into human rights abuses and provide compensation as well as putting safeguards in place to ensure it does not happen again in the future.
Commenting on the report today Amnesty International Ireland Executive Director Colm O’Gorman welcomed the report, which confirmed the findings of the organisation’s own report in 2010. He said:
It is undeniable that the Irish government knew rendition flights transited Ireland and that they knew this breached the legally binding international convention on torture. Yet they did nothing. Official Ireland was prepared to ignore our role in kidnap and torture for the sake of maintaining good relations with the United States government.
“We have repeatedly called for an independent investigation into the use of Shannon airport. This investigation must also make clear who knew that we were complicit in torture and why they failed to act,” he said.
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This can’t be much comfort to affected mortgage holders.
Remember being told bankers salaries in state owned banks would be capped.. Then finding out this was not being enforced.
Then that waster Noonan comes out and does nothing more than ask politely for caps to be adhered to…
Let them cop on a small bit and pay back their mortgages. Too much “can’t afford it” but out socialising at the weekend, still driving big cars and no respect for the common folk that have to bail them out.
Pay up or get out
Mike Murphy, I like your pose. You look just like you are about to have a massive bowel movement with excitement.
Ah ,Peter , be nice to him , he’s just set up a face book account ,so that he can troll ..That’s probably a flattering photo of him ..
Thomas, true. A sad case.
Thomas and Peter – 2 more Burdens to society that spent more than ye can afford and don’t like having to drop the high life and pay it back.
Feel free to mock me and my weight and health issues but I’m not ROBBING anyone..
The banks and bondholders were bailed out. The Euro 6 billion paid to the banks to sort the mortgage debt problem was used to boost the banks balance sheet.
It is important to know who was bailed out and who was not.
Not mocking you at all ,Mike (ahem)
I have a fantastic job in the public health services , job for life , and very soon I’ll be getting a lump sum = 1 1/2 times my final salary and will cash in my two pensions .. So I’m not robbing anyone ..life is great !
Cash in your two pensions… You sound like you need that alright – Whole other discussion but I’d be careful when I say “not robbing anyone”…
I’m wondering what the love child of Michael Noonan and Margaret Thatcher might look and sound like.
I’ve no need to be careful !
I’s am a proud freeloader ..lol I’s will milk those cows for all it’s worth..lol Mr Bank manager ,how’s are youse today ..lol I’s have € 100 for mortgage this month , youse are lucky ..lol let’s sit down and play a game of poker ..lol we’ll play with real money ..lol youse heard of securitisation ..lol it’s Ponzi with a triple a+ ..lol
Anyone that tries to take my cosy home will get the business end of Bertha. Everyone suffers but the people who caused it still roll in the big bucks. You couldn’t write this crap. Sorry, that Shatter chapie could.
I’m probably paying for it…
Good!
Your money goes along way so.
AIB = Absolutely Incredible Bargains !
What a joke if a tenant doesn’t pay their rent they’re evicted and rightly so.
So why does it make a diiference if you have a mortgage,you don’t own the property until the mortgage is paid off.
Roll on the repossesions
Well Said!! Roll on!
Roll on deals!
Some balls on you to call on ‘roll on repositions’ like that.You really need to get your head out of your ass,snort out the shite and go back to junior infants..
Thanks Enda ..lol
Well said Jeremy I hate mortgage holders who don’t pay their mortgages and ones who cant they’re sc#@of the earth,god bless all the renters who work hard pay PAYE pay rent to landlords every month and have to listen to this crap,mainland Europe sort out the Irish pleaseeeeeeeee
I’s thought that I’s spoke poorly , lol I’s cannot understand yours, Declan ..lol I hates I hates can’y mortgage holders ..lol
Mike and Jeremy, I have a barrel for each of you. Feel free to invade my property and attempt to tuft me out. Bertha shall let blaze with both barrels. I applaud anyone who opposes these parasitic bankers.
There was a time when Irish tenant farmers fought for their farms and ultimately won.
One should feel solidarity with our fellow citizens and no respect for foreign vultures.
Peter ,Peter ,,lols ..youse are playing with fire ..lol youse would take these boys down with your knowledge of the system ..lol youse took out the loan youse must pay it back ..lol blah blah blah ..Oggie doesn’t care about the banks ,or the trolls ,or the ones that aren’t ..lol I’s have paid my dues ..lol I’s am logging off now, ‘cos my fingers are tired and my brain needs to slow down ..lol wife no1 will help me now ..lol
Ahhhhhhh now I understand peter Michael davitt and the land wars
The Land League which led to reforming legislation, starting with Gladstone in the 19th Century. .
Some have values and interests which coincide with those of the Bankers and speculators. My identification is with unfortunate persons on reduced incomes who can no longer afford to repay exorbitant mortgages on previously priced homes. Where will all of these dispossessed people go?
I have 2 years to go on an affordable mortgage on an affordable home but my heart and support goes out to those who through no fault of their own were ripped off to enrich greedy bankers and reckless developers.
Too right Jeremy, I note that the trollers with serious debts are in the ‘denial’ phase and are getting more vocal and more desperate on here!!
The more repossessed houses the better, man things are getting better, more repossessed houses on the market than ever before. Plus I just got promoted with 10% payrise and more stocks, to add to my 6 figure deposit. I might even buy Dexters house and pinch his bum on his way out!
Ahhhhhh Gladstone and the 19th century,welcome to the 21st peter,your trolling,where should the dispossessed go ehhhhhhh TO HELL OR TO CONNAUGHT :))))))
Declan, the use of odd emphasis refelects your cognitive deficit and your inability to thing about the true cause of the mortgage impairment in crisis. You will observe how I managed to convey my view without use of parenthesis and letter repetition.
You must have got prescribed less ..
The likes of Dave end up in Connaught , as they couldn’t afford to buy in Dublin ..
Hey Thomas, I can buy up to e350k, and if I get my partner involved, I can go up to about e500k. I can easily afford in Dublin. It’s overpriced though because of the freeloaders not paying mortgages.
You wouldn’t understand, you live in the sticks, and are a bit stupid. haha
Youse should have given the mortgage holders a chance to bid on their loan ..lol but this is not the way to do business ..lol here youse go buyers , youse can have my mortgage for 40c in the pound ..lol but we all happy now , lol sold down the swanny ..lol
Those in Nama will and have bought back their loans at a greatly discounted rate. And they can claim loses to offset their tax bill.
With FG/Labour the little man get nothing. That is an immutable law.
You have sized Ireland up very well Oggie3rd.
There you have it
The “Special” Liquidators solemn word.
“What more do you want guys??”
“A man’s word is his bond”
The “Special” Liquidator AKA the one and only KPMG
The same KPMG that gave Irish Nationwide (now part of IBRC) a clean bill of health when it was bust.
Would you not say that there was just a tad bit of a conflict of interest here??
I wonder how much KPMG are getting paid to administer this travesty???
“Champers tonight boys” Ehh??
“Scoff”
“Scoff”
“Oink”
“Oink”
Nonnan said they are protected, they might as well move now because once you here that you know you truly truly fcuked
Lm
Free Education meant you had all the opportunity in the world to stare out the window all day…….every day!
Hows the form,Dave ?
Space after the ,
Not in Cork,boi !
Good to see you back Ritchie, what can you say about them lying lowlifes in FG, they are lower than a snakes belly, and you look up to them, it shows how low you are,
PS I did not avail of the free education, I went private unlike you,
Dane, Richie, how many stitches did you get the last time you got personal with people
Ahh Thomas, the twit from the west! He thinks I’m everywhere. I’m only in D4, the richest and best part of Ireland.
Lol Thomas I crack up every time I see your lame angry comments. You are such a bogger.
I rent yes, you truly are inferior if you think less of people who rent. What a feeble little man out there in your field, all alone.
Come to Dublin, I’ll pay for your dinner in Fire, get you some nice wine. It’s all good over here.
It only means “regulated by the Central Bank”. I think we all know what a “regulation” is worth and it can be redefined at a whim of the ECB board member who runs the Central Bank but has his duty is first to Frankfurt.
Sad but true.
Well if you dont like Regulation there’s always Bitcoin…
If foreign vultures acquire Irish mortgages secured on the homes of Irish citizens, I know what side I am.
We don’t have to be overly scrupulous about the legal methods deployed to resist vultures who have bought the mortgagee’s interests with their eyes fully open.
Yeah, right. They will be fully protected!
This should indeed be very good news for all Irish Nationwide Building Society Family Home mortgage holders , as the purchasing Groups will most probably be purchasing the mortgages concerned at about a third of the pre- bust values.
This should afford those – especially outside of the immediate Dublin area , an opportunity to refinance the “purchase” of their mortgages back at huge discounts .
The Government , in the meantime , must now ensure availability of “new” mortgages being made available to the existing Family Home Owners !
Why?
So they can mess up again and not pay back what they borrowed?
Wise up Ciarraioch
Jeremy – presumably you have been out of the Country for the past six years while the worse recession in the history of the State has been underway – while almost a half million people have been out of work and while a quarter of a million of our people have emigrated ??
You should wise up and show some respect for people less lucky in life obviously, then you !
Jeremy is an Ironman ..lol
@ciarraioch all the mortgage holders in arrears with plasma TVs sky digital,car in the driveway holidays abroad,lots of kids etc etc dont worry I’ll work extra hours while being taxed up to fu@#in bollix to pay for it,cut out the luxury pay your mortgages and shut up ireland
Well said Declan
No one put a gun to their heads and marched them into the bank to take out a mortgage they couldn’t afford,every decision you make comes with a conseqeunce.
You took out more than you can pay back,tough luck give it back it’s not yours you simply borrowed it.When will these greedy idiots learn its unacceptable to borrow without paying back.
Roll on the Repos i for one will be celebrating i hope you will be too Declan
I’s will never pay back full debt ..lol no way Jose ..lol thanks Jeremy ..lol
I’s have a 42″ plasma , I’s have a car in the driveway , I’s go on a holiday , and I’s have a very nice bank manager , he’s lovely ..lol
I can’t stop laughing @ Ciarraiochs comment
” while the worse recession in the history of the State has been underway ”
Oh yeah,you know it’s hell on earth when someone refuses to pay their mortgage and can still afford holidays,nice cars,fancy tv’s,modest luxuires of the modern world etc.
Oh it’s really bad my heart goes out to them
Youse are learning so much stuff on the Internet ..lol It’s great to see , how youse just learnt this knowledge from Declan ..lol youse really are a quick learner ..lol I’s believe that in a recession , youse must do what youse has to do ..lol I’s tell peoples , don’t be afraid ..lol Jeremy will pay for it ..lol
Banks inveigled people into paying unaffordable prices for sub standard homes fuelled by excessively plentiful credit, promoted by the criminally irresponsible Central Bank of Ireland and the complicit IFSRA.
Look at the causes first.
@ Jeremy.
All the mortgages that the jokebanks sold between the early noughties and the point where they (all bar none) corruptly/criminally bust themselves, were basically of a subprime, built to fail standard.
The culprits not only were allowed to walk freely away from their responsibilities but were handsomely rewarded with money that was basically stolen from their victim’s pockets.
The Irish Bernie Madoffs get kept in clover on their victim’s money, instead of the 150 years in jail that they deserve.
The country has been sentenced to eternal debt slavery by corrupt/criminal elitist sycophants who laugh at you from their perches above the law.
Who really gives a fcuk if anyone pays their mortgage to these toxic jokebanks at this stage?
The veil has been lifted mate.
This is inaccurate. , it’s a Vokubtary agreement to adhere to the code of conduct . This gives no protection . The vulture fund could change their mind. This is a last minute sinister move. Too little too late. Protest tomorrow at. 1pm outside Leinster house
Repossessions need to happen, people not paying their mortgages need to be removed from their proprieties asap, I can’t buy a house because of these boom-time freeloaders.
I’s am going to have great fun ..lol I’s am a freeloader and proud of it ..lol Thank youse for helping me in all the subsidies that I be getting ..lol Mike , youse will be proud of what I get off the system and I’s also do odd jobs at weekends ..lol
Protected but not for long. All those freeloaders will get kicked out of their houses and the likes of me will come in like a vulture and get me some nice property. I will be laughing all the way watching the poor souls having to move to Letrim (or worse, to where Tommy lives) with tears in their eyes. Happy days.
DaveMac, I hope that you are using a touch screen instead of a hard keyboard in view of your splashing.
Here’s some porn for you to jerk off to
DaveMac(s),
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXep2SsJlHw
And here’s a guy who will do a nice refurb on your new repo for you DaveyBoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqb6ZIXoX2w
Is there a lot of houses in D4 that are about to be repossessed ? Gee, I was informed by a troll , that all the rich people reside there ?!
Poor old ,Dave , and his pretend money , so sad, missed out in the boom , in the bust , and now the boom , again !!
Great times are here again ..10% in Dublin , so that would probably be another 15-20% in D4 , hahahaha , missed out again ..
Aww little Thomas is getting frustrated at my superiority! Little man.
Of course I missed out in the boom, stupid. Because of that I have 6 figure savings.
I am in the process of looking for a house, price rises are good in my view! are you really that stupid? haha, what a weirdo you are!
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