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'I don't plan on raising it again': Varadkar rules out speaking to von der Leyen about Israel comments at EPP summit

Varadkar says peace may seem unrealistic now, but from Ireland’s history we know peace is possible.

LAST UPDATE | 26 Oct 2023

TAOISEACH LEO VARADKAR has said he won’t berate other nations into seeing Ireland’s position on the Israel-Hamas conflict, stating today’s European Council meeting in Brussels is about trying to build a consensus on a ceasefire. 

Speaking to The Journal before the European People’s Party (EPP) Summit in Brussels this morning, Varadkar also confirmed that he will not be raising any further concerns with EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen about her trip to Israel after the 7 October attacks where she pledged Europe’s unwavering support for Israel. 

“I discussed that with Ursula already, so I don’t plan to raise it again. My main focus really here at the EPP Summit and then also later on at the European Council is for the European Union as one to agree to call for a humanitarian ceasefire.

“And we don’t have unanimous support for that at the moment. I don’t really mind what language is used. I think it’s important that the fighting should stop and that humanitarian aid get into Gaza, and that the US citizens and other foreign passport holders should be allowed to leave. Protecting our citizens is really, really significant and important for us. So that’ll be the focus,” he said. 

Varadkar, her EPP colleague, stated last week that he believed some of her comments “lacked balance”.

It is expected that the controversy will be raised at the EPP Summit today, where party leaders and heads of state are in attendance alongside the likes of Varadkar and von der Leyen. 

As president of the European Commission von der Leyen was fast to pledge support to Israel, despite concerns that the country’s response to the 7 October Hamas attacks would have catastrophic impacts for Gaza’s civilian population. 

“The European Union stands with Israel,” she wrote on X, formerly Twitter, the day Hamas attacked civilians and captured hostages, alongside a picture of the European Commission headquarters lit up with the Israeli flag.

As events in the Middle East continued, the United Nations and others warned that Israel’s siege of Gaza in response to Hamas’ attack amounted to an illegal act under international law.

On 13 October von der Leyen and Metsola visited Israel to express solidarity.

But by the following day von der Leyen appeared to be feeling the pressure, issuing her first statement to acknowledge the threat to Gaza’s civilians. In it she announced that the EU would be tripling its humanitarian aid.

“There is no justification for Hamas’ heinous act of terror,” she wrote in a social media post. “Israel has the right to defend itself. At the same time civilians in Gaza are also victims of Hamas.”

The majority of Irish MEPs have accused the Commission President of overstepping her mandate.

It is expected to be a tense couple of days for Taoiseach Leo Varadkar in Brussels, with Ireland seen as somewhat of an outlier among EU states Europe in terms of its position on Palestine.

However, he said that Ireland has a unique perspective on the issue of peace agreements, stating we have to move from position of conflict to a new peace initiative.

“I know that may seem unrealistic now. But we know from our history (in Ireland), that peace is possible. And that’s part of the message I’ve been bringing here,” he said ahead of an EU summit of the leaders of the 27.

Reaching agreement on the terms of a ceasefire call and communiqué could be difficult, he conceded: “We’re not a federation. We’re not a super state.

“We’re a European Union of 27 member states. And different countries have different opinions and different views. We work together very successfully when we can — look at the Eurozone, look at the Single Market. Look at how Brexit was handled, how we dealt with the pandemic and the war in Ukraine.

Varadkar said there is a need to understand the origin of Germany and Austria’s strong support for Israel and also be aware that Hamas is an Islamic resistance movement.

“There are lots of countries that have experienced very serious, extreme Islamic related attacks,” he said.

“I’m not going to be berating people,” the Taoiseach added

“What I am going to be trying to achieve is a consensus EU position that calls for a ceasefire, calls for the fighting to stop, so that we can get aid in and maybe potentially even begin talking about peace again and the long term solution,” he said. 

While the overall aim for the Taoiseach is for the EU to call for a humanitarian ceasefire, Varadkar said “we’re not going to put a timeframe on it. We’re realistic in that”.

“It may be the case that Hamas isn’t willing to observe a ceasefire, you know, how can you expect one side to observe a ceasefire and not the other. So that needs to be borne in mind. If there is a ceasefire, all parties in this conflict have to abide by it or it won’t last,” he said.

Varadkar said while Israel has a right to defend itself and to pursue terrorists that attack its civilians, how it does so is really important. 

Ireland does have a voice at the table, he maintained, stating that the Irish government hopes to “recenter the common European position to one that’s balanced, one that recognises Israel’s right to defend itself, but also the Palestinians legitimate right to seek to have their own state”.

Ireland’s voice at European level

Sinn Féin has called on the Taoiseach to be the voice of the Irish people at today’s council meeting over the next two days. 

Ahead of the meeting today, Sinn Féin has said that Varadkar must use his voice at European level to urge member states to follow the lead of UN Secretary General, António Guterres.

The UN chief this week expressed deep concern at “the clear violations of international humanitarian law”, calling Israel’s constant bombardment of Gaza and the level of destruction and civilian casualties “alarming”.

He called for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire to deliver desperately needed food, water, medicine and fuel. He also appealed “to all to pull back from the brink before the violence claims even more lives and spreads even farther”.

His comments resulted in Israel’s ambassador to the UN calling for Guterres’ resignation.

Sinn Féin spokesperson on Foreign Affairs, Matt Carthy, called on the Taoiseach to call for the EU to change course in its approach to the conflict, stating that Guterres’ words should be heeded.

“Regrettably, the strength of his calls have not been matched from within the EU.

“In fact, the European Union, which has long championed itself as a leader for peace, international law and conflict resolution, has failed to live up to any of those principles in recent weeks.

“This week’s European Council meeting can be the opportunity to change course. Ireland must be the voice at EU level that condemns war crimes regardless of who commits them,” said Carthy. 

In making calls for a ceasefire, it may be that the Irish government will be in a minority on the European Council, Carthy pointed out. However, Varadkar will represent the views of the vast majority of the Irish people, added the Sinn Féin TD. 

Tense EPP Summit with von der Leyen

Pressure is also on Varadkar to highlight Irish concerns regarding von der Leyen at the EPP Summit today.

Irish MEPs have already criticised von der Leyen, while over 800 staff from EU institutions also penned a letter criticising her and pointing out she did not have a mandate to make such comments. 

While Sinn Féin has called on Varadkar to use his voice at the European Council meeting, Independent Donegal TD Thomas Pringle told the Dáil last night that von der Leyen’s position should be discussed.

He called for her to resign from her position as President of the European Commission immediately, stating that she was justifying Israel’s horrific decision to cut off food, water and electricity to civilians in Gaza.

“President von der Leyen massively overstepped the mark and her actions are not only unacceptable but also unforgivable and extremely dangerous.  

“She cannot be allowed to continue in her role as President of the European Commission.  In fact, she cannot be allowed to represent the EU in any form any longer. She does not represent Europe as a whole and she certainly does not represent Ireland.”

Difficulties finding European consensus

Speaking in the Dáil yesterday ahead of travelling to Brussels today, the Taoiseach said the European Union does not have a single foreign policy, and when it comes to Israel and Palestine it can be very difficult to find consensus.

“We were able to agree compromise language and that was the basis of the European Council statement the weekend before last.

“We will try to do the same over the course of the next two days. I am sure that on Thursday or Friday in Brussels we will discuss cooperation with Israel.

“At the moment, as we all know, there is very strong support for Israel from most EU member states but that could change. That will depend on how Israel acts in the coming weeks and months.”

Highlighting the words of US President Joe Biden, where he described the events of 7 October in Israel as the Israeli people’s 9-11, Varadkar said the point being made is that Israel should not make the same mistakes the US made.

“It is very clear what he meant because the US made terrible mistakes after 9-11, which caused a lot of hurt in a lot of parts of the world and impacted on its influence.

“The point President Biden was making to Israel, if you read between the lines, was a message of restraint and is one we will be making as well.

“Regarding international law, our view as the Irish Government is that collective punishment that deliberately targets civilians and civilian infrastructure is a breach of international humanitarian law no matter who does it.

“We have been very clear and consistent on that. I cannot speak for the President of the European Commission or other member states, and nor would I, but I understand that other member states come from different perspectives.”

Because of the Holocaust, “a lot of countries feel historic guilt because of their involvement in that. We have to understand that”, Varadkar added.

The Taoiseach said it is a valid suggestion that Ireland would try to build an international alliance that looks for a ceasefire first and a peace initiative later.

However, he said to have any influence we cannot take absolutist positions.

“Once you take an absolutist position your influence is gone, unless you have other forms of power. You cannot be an honest broker in that kind of scenario.”

Political Editor Christina Finn will be reporting from the EPP Summit and the European Council meeting in Brussels over the next two days. Follow @christinafinn8 for all the updates. 

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    Aug 18th 2013, 4:25 AM

    Hi Stephen, here is a useful page for script blocking

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    Whoever said you don’t need anti-virus is seriously full of crap. You only need to visit a compromised website or a website with third party scrips embedded from a compromised provider. If you have a vulnerable browser, java, flash, installed then you get infected without even realising it. At least if you have AV with memory protection and on-access scanning you are not at such risk.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 6:39 PM

    And also, hard drive spinning speed does not slow down over time. What you are experiencing is likely fragmentation which is a filesystem issue – not a hardware issue.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 6:44 PM

    I just read that lifehacker article by Whitson Gordon that you bastardised. He did NOT say you don’t need AV. He actually said the opposite – that it’s essential! And to ensure that’s effective. I know the standard of articles on the journal has nosedived recently but this is absolutely ridiculous!

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    Aug 17th 2013, 6:45 PM

    Hi Barry. Thanks for adding to the advice. Just to say though, the article doesn’t say not to get antivirus software. It actually just addresses the misconception some people think you absolutely need it for a fast computer.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 6:54 PM

    Try reading it again Nicky. I quote “It’s not only important to have antivirus software installed, but it’s important to have the right kind.”

    The point he was making is that you don’t need expensive bloated crapware. You still need AV.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 6:58 PM

    Yep. That’s the point he’s making, and this article doesn’t say not to get antivirus software.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 7:03 PM

    Reading the journal article it’s hard to see how it could be construed any other way. Irresponsible ‘journalism’.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 7:13 PM

    Thanks for the feedback Barry. I added a line into the article to make it more clear.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 7:17 PM

    Well, I didn’t read it that way. But then, today is not axe grinding day for me.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 7:17 PM

    “You should still download antivirus software though, and there are many free options available.”

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    Aug 17th 2013, 7:19 PM

    Cheers Nicky

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    Aug 17th 2013, 7:20 PM

    This is actually a very good article for the ordinary person reading the journal, you could tie everything up in knots if you were a chap in the business and trying to make a sale but for most people the item is valuable.Too much information will only pi** folks off and defeat the object of providing a bit of sensible help.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 9:44 PM

    I’ve never experienced a single malware problem that ‘system restore’ couldn’t fix. Backing up any new files and rolling your system back a day or 2 is even 10 times quicker than a full antivirus scan. And free.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 9:55 PM

    Vinnie, how do you know if you have malware if you don’t have something to detect it? A lot of malware is hidden, whether a keylogger, botnet, etc. and you shouldn’t need to to lengthy on-demand scans as most AV these days have on-access scanning.

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    Aug 18th 2013, 1:29 AM

    Nicky Ryan is Kevin Smith??

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    Aug 18th 2013, 10:27 AM

    Nope! Just looking after the comments.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 10:11 PM

    I used to make good money repairing computers, stop giving away these hints for free! But seriously run msconfig, go to startup and disable everything EXCEPT your anti virus. Most people are amazed at how many unnecessary programs run at startup and many continue running in background.

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    Aug 18th 2013, 12:57 AM

    Good advice. Shutting down everything unnecessary in msconfig is like taking the roof box off your car, emptying the boot, and telling all your passengers to get out. You’ll be amazed at the performance!!! Also Ccleaner is brilliant. Uninstall all the programs you don’t use, then run Ccleaner, including registry cleanup (note the warning messages!). Also make sure you have at least 40% free space on your HDD. Also turn off all the auto updates for software and manually check for updates periodically. I’ve had PCs that took 10 minutes to boot up. Using these steps, got the boot times down to under 2 minutes.

    Make sure to create a Restore Point before doing any of this, just in case.

    If you’re running windows xp, stick with it. If you’re running Vista, it’s junk – upgrade to windows 7.

    Hope this helps.

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    Aug 18th 2013, 1:06 AM

    For windows PC, Also look out for huge log files. Older versions of IE used to create them – use a pc daily for a couple of years and you could get a 10GB log file. If you find any, just delete them.

    Turn off Swap Files (where your pc uses space on your disc as RAM) then run Defrag. Once complete, turn swap files back on, let windows suggest the size, then select to set the file size manually, using the suggested size. This will create a permanent swap file in a single block on your disc, which makes programs run faster than using scattered blocks of varying size.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 5:58 PM

    Clean up the register on PC’s using CCleaner
    for XP users, clean up your desktop… Put the files into my documents instead.
    Disable search indexing if you hoard mails.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 7:13 PM

    “Simply install a solid state hard drive”
    Seriously was that written by a block of cheese!!!!!!!!!!! &€@£%#%$$£><?$$!!!!!

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    Aug 17th 2013, 5:43 PM

    Thank you Kevin I am going to have a clean out today ,, hate using the netbook since I got the iPad , so much easier

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    Aug 17th 2013, 5:47 PM

    Agreed.
    Before tablets we got a netbook for doing simple tasks.

    However it seems so much of the netbooks resources go into running itself there is little left over to perform any tasks.

    My android tablet simplified things greatly.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 5:45 PM

    Mac Cleaner is an excellent app for Macs. I downloaded it recently and in the first run it sped up the system and reclaimed 5 gb of hard disk space.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 5:55 PM

    iPad or Samsung Tab?

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    Aug 17th 2013, 6:17 PM

    I’m trying to talk myself out of a new Nexus 7. I really have no need for one.

    If anybody sees me attempting to buy one, kick me in the nackers.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 6:36 PM

    Don’t get a nexus 7, you will find that you use it alot and waste alot of time on it. You will enjoy using it so muxh that you will feel guilty. I hope that helps.

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    Mute Continent Simian
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    Aug 17th 2013, 10:13 PM

    Feck you, sir. Feck you.

    :)

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    Mute Ciaran Morgan
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    Aug 17th 2013, 7:38 PM

    nstall a solid state hard drive (SSD) in your current computer or buy a new computer with one.

    So, the way to speed up your computer is to buy a new one!

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    Aug 17th 2013, 7:52 PM

    Sometimes it is :-)

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    Aug 17th 2013, 6:53 PM

    Revo Uninstaller. It’ll do a great clear out of all the crap that’s built up over the years.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 7:27 PM

    Similar story but worse – HP Pavillion DV10 i5 processor – cost a great deal 2 years ago has just gone bust – will not boot up – tries to power up but to no avail – left it to a (reputable) computer repair shop who tell me the mother board is gone – #devestated – minded this like a newborn all the time and can’t understand how this would happen – not sure whether to
    a. get 2nd opinion
    b. just get replacement -

    If option b is there any techies out there with advice as to a good replacement

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    Mute Paul Roche
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    Aug 17th 2013, 7:55 PM

    Google startup beep codes and see if that can help diagnose.

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    Mute Barry O'Brien
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    Aug 17th 2013, 8:47 PM

    It can happen through no fault of the user. Hardware dies – some sooner than others.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 7:24 PM

    I’ll have to get one of those spinning hard drives on the picture as all mine need electricity to spin. Yours must be magic

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    Aug 17th 2013, 7:29 PM

    They are.

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    Aug 18th 2013, 1:27 AM

    Tablet is your only man…..f**k laptops

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    Aug 18th 2013, 8:25 AM

    Enjoy Xp while you can. It’s unsupported from next year, end of an era. :-(

    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/endofsupport.aspx

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    Aug 17th 2013, 7:26 PM

    Is Linux like windows?

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    Mute Jeroen Bos
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    Aug 17th 2013, 7:51 PM

    It’s user interface and the way it works looks more like what you would see on a Mac. But that said, I am sure you get the hang of it in a day. It’s way faster than Windows and more intuitive. If it weren’t for the fact that I am dependent on Adobe Creative software I would be using it on all my computers.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 8:15 PM

    For basic usage like web browsing etc they are similar, however the architecture is quite different Linux can be lightweight and work great on older computers unlike new windows versions.
    However Linux does still rely on a number of command line apps like apt get which can be off putting for new users but is actually really easy and powerful to use.
    You can download “live CDs” of Linux to try out without getting rid of windows first, try Ubuntu live as its the biggest mainstream Linux distro atm for end users

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    Aug 17th 2013, 8:46 PM

    If you want it to be. The single greatest thing about Linux is that there are so many different options. For example, if you want very similar to Windows you could check out Zorin OS. Linux Mint is also quite nice alternative but a bit less like Windows. Once you get into it there’s so many options. Personally I use Debian on servers and Arch Linux on desktop. My mother uses Mint, my wife Suse, my son Edubuntu.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 10:04 PM

    One more thing, if you wanna play games (real games) you’ll need to stick with windows unfortunately

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    Aug 17th 2013, 10:07 PM

    Edward, check out PlayOnLinux. Not perfect but runs quite a lot of Windows games. And things are getting better – Steam and Desura clients for example.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 11:05 PM

    Edward: there is graphical GUI for apt-get “synaptic”. For most command line stuff there is GUI now in Linux. It doesn’t however change the fact this system is so useless for anything else than server box. Unless you’re masochist.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 11:51 PM

    Indeed Linux is making great steps regards to games, actually installed steam just the other day but many many titles are missing OpenGL or perform poorly, just isn’t developed enough or supported like direct x and unless MS decide to stop the monopoly you’ll need windows for most games.
    Re Linux only for servers that’s not true.. It’s great for users for normal stuff and devs, I run a massive java app (talking 500k classes) on oracle 11g on Ubuntu flawlessly somehow don’t see that happening so easily with windows

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    Aug 17th 2013, 11:44 PM

    Clean up UR pc laptop like UR hse once a week!! Cant go wrong

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    Aug 17th 2013, 6:30 PM

    Has anybody any advice for a HP laptop ? Start up takes about 10 mins.

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    Aug 17th 2013, 6:38 PM

    Would that Laptop be around 5 years old running windows Vista with 1 gig ram?

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    Aug 17th 2013, 7:08 PM

    Retire it!

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    Aug 17th 2013, 7:48 PM

    Install 64bit XP if the CPU will take it.

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    Mute Continent Simian
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    Aug 17th 2013, 8:00 PM

    Unfortunately there is no legal way to get Windows XP these days.

    Even the illegal ways are very hit-and-miss. :-/

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    Aug 17th 2013, 10:51 PM

    Linux is great if you’re masochist…

    Just stick with Windows or get Mac, even better choice.

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    Aug 18th 2013, 7:33 PM

    Call the IT Crowd.

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    Jan 22nd 2015, 2:36 AM

    More ram, clean out your cache, free up hard drive space and use a tool such as Ccleaner, which is free on the net. I got these tips from my “go to” pc guy over at fastnezzycomputerrepair.com.

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    Aug 18th 2013, 8:32 AM

    Forget windows. Linux is great but unless you have an IT genius in the house it can be very daunting for the average user.

    Mac OS is similar to linux. Its fast, secure, easy to use, spend a little bit more on a mac and never look back.

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    Aug 18th 2013, 2:45 PM

    I have a Macbook and it’s slowed down an awful lot lately and i am getting the spinning wheel of death… any advice?

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