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Andrews is a ME FEINER and has no loyalty to anyone except himself, Sinn Fein would well to pass on that offer
THERE ARE A LOT OF ANGRY FIANNA FAILURES COMMENTING ON HERE! :-) ;-)
WISH ALL FIANNA FAILURES A JOYFUL WEEKEND…….get over it!
I think Eamon Gilmore is joining SF along with Michael McDowell.
Ha, ha,ha,ha I love it Declan, you’re a bucket of laughs glad that you’re
getting over the shock!
There’s a Fianna Failure part of Sinn Fein now ; one rotten apple Bobby ?
SF looking good, better chance of Andrews getting elected with the Shinners and he’ll jump that ship of sewer rats. When they start sinking, hope SF get torpedoed soon and it blows up in their face! When we wipe out, FG/FF/Labour and SF from Irish Politics! Then, that’ll be true progress!
Well, Tom, SF aren’t exactly known for their principles, are they, given that they happily supported murder for years, and still refuse to condemn it. So he’ll feel right at home.
I’m disappointed SF didn’t pass on that offer, especially given Andrew’s snipey tweets. I’d say many many devious little aspiring politicians have false accounts though including commentators on this site.
More like a load of laughing FFers, as well as the voting population as a whole. It was well know yesterday this would happen – and all the loyal SF commentators, including yourself, on the Journal were denying it, insulting Andrews.
Fact is Andrews is a discredited, disgrace of a man. We have a major problem with trolls in this country at the moment and that is exactly what Andrews was on some woman, who unlike him wasn’t in govt when all the bad decisions were made – he probably singled her out as she was a woman.
I wouldn’t be proud today if I was in SF – and thats saying something, as usually I don’t even like to recognise your existence.
He’ll never be accepted in Sinn Féin. He always kept away from power and influence. When he loses his seat as does everyone he will not have opportunities presented to him. All because no one likes betrayal.
Who’s WE?
No, they supported an armed struggle in the 6 counties to get the British out of the country…….you know just like there was an armed struggle in the whole of Ireland back in 20th century……to get the British out of the country……don’t they teach you history down there…….oh, that right, they don’t teach history there any more……you know what the result of that will be…….more ignorant Irish people with big mouths!
Don’t fret Jean, we know our history and it’s 2013 now not 1913! So let’s move on from the old days, SF/FF/FG/Labour are out of date and out of touch. The people want honest politics, not something from the past and especially not SF!
A sad day for sinn fein accepting a sly hound like him into their party, a sad day indeed.
He will be in good company then over at the shinners,he will loose more f.f voters than he will gain s.f. Political sucide,F.G will win that seat next election….
Not one if you gimps will ever vote for s/f anyways
Well, being from FF stock he should be inherently used to spouting populist, unrealistic rubbish just to get elected. Similarly, his bizarre flirtation with Twitter proved he likes to use underhand, cheap, cowardly tactics in engaging political opponents….so he seems to be absolutely perfect for Sinn Fein. Someone get him a Balaclava.
Priceless, a fine gaeler mentioning cowardice when his own party leader has as much tenacity as a 5 gear old girl with bladder control issues.
Can’t picture anyone rubbing Adams head in front of the world media.
Ho ho ho f**kin ho . What a predicted statement comibg from the pathetic mind of a breakfast clown.
“Sorry love,you forgot to give me my portion of irony,with my Egg Mcmuffin meal.”
It starting to show that all parties are tared with the same brush. out one door in another same sh1t house.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHXvuULABoc
According to Sinn Fein office this is why they signed Chris Andrews ; ‘Tis some goal if he scored it !
This news damages both Fianna Fail and Sinn Fein vote !
Think about it Sinn Fein ; Those who now Know that Fianna Fail were fake republicans with their total subservience to teh E.C.B. now know that you are the same !
This adds to the Independent’s corner , no-one else !
Will Chris Andrews even get elected ? Of course not Fianna fail and all their baggage is muck in Dublin !
SF are not republicans they are socialists, we don’t have a true republican party in Ireland. just a left and a right, on one for the people of the republic .
Like changing socks, there’s none of them any different to tother!
on one for their special friends you mean Declan !
Have you every wondered why there is a lock on a toilet door?
Miaow said the dog to the dog ; kinda thing ?
THERE ARE A LOT OF ANGRY FIANNA FAILURES COMMENTING ON HERE! :-)
Declan how is your weekend? ;-)
you said this on the post above me.”THERE ARE A LOT OF ANGRY FIANNA FAILURES COMMENTING ON HERE! :-)”
My weekend is ok and how is yours?
Mine is only BRILLIANT, couldn’t be better Dec….thanks Dec…
Hail the Fianna Failure,
who has repented his sins of the past,
to follow the righteous path in search for the Sinn Fein Holy Grail,
which will one day bring unity to a misguided, malfunctioning nation!
Under a european flag Bobby !
Where’s Sinn Fein’s defence of our neutrality they were roaring and shouting about it during Lisbon 1 and now with soldiers in Afghanistan and Uganda without a U.N. Mandate not a word about it !
If they wanted they could force a general election on constitutional grounds ; sometimes what a political party doesn’t say is as revealing as what they do !
I think I have been blocked from making any more replies, never know this one just might be let.
The weekend manoeuvers up on Carlingford sound like they are going well….
SF are not ready to be a leading party, that is why they are not bothered about bringing down the government, they are quite happy where they are, sorting out ramps on the roads cutting the grass in the green spaces. dont ask them to do something for the state.
Sorry Dermot, but do I detect a tone of resentment in your question, or are you trying to speak out through the bottom of a pint glass? All I can read is Blurp,Blurp,Blurp…..
Aaaaaah Declan, it is not that your comments are being stopped, it is that they ran out of toilet roll in the Journal office. :-(
weak Bobby ;I’m deadly sober !
avoiding the substantive exposes the weakness !
Ooooops Dermot sorry to hear that, then we you have a more serious problem than I taught…
So you teach problems Bobby ; that would SUM it up all right ; point proven Bobby. T.Y..
actually Bobby ; “we you” ? what’s that about? ;
who has the problem ? me? or Sinn Fein’s credentials? , or is that an admission or given your wonderful history ;a threat ? or just whatever ?
Blurp,Blurp,Blurp
are you in a boghole Bobby ?
Bobby ; I am actually doing you and your party a favour ; I’m showing you where you are weak in your argument ; if you don’t see that then fair enough !
Just don’t lower the argument to personal insults ; it reflects badly , remember that ………. if you want to sling insults then cool as well ; it’s good fun !
I don’t know why I’m doing you a favour but I like your picture , that’s probably it !
Political opportunist slimes his way into another party with policies and ideals completely the opposite to the party he once loved and supported. Leopards don’t change their spots, only their tactics. SF supporters, beware. Do you really need someone so lacking in ethics?
Eff all about ideology. It’s a desperate grab for attention and a return to the Dail Trough by any means necessary.
Daisy you are offering Sinn Fein advice, that’s a laugh, ho, ho,ho
Well, I would have offered you toner cartridges, but you already have an in there.
Daisy, SF don’t understand the meaning of ethics. How could a party that supported the murder of innocent people and who still defend the murderers claim to understand ethics. So a slimball like Andrews will feel right at home.
Gràinne that is hypocrisy, a Fianna Fáiler speaking about the ethics of another party? You need some toilet paper to wipe around your mouth!
it appears sinn fein conducts its meetings with each other on these feeds,,,,,,,,,
sinn fein could be getting what they deserve Daisy,,,,,
Jacqueline I take it you are angry too about your Fianna Fáil parties embarrassment?
Sinn Fein will look after your defector and bring him under their wings and will find his true potential.
He has to abandon any Fianna Fáil corrupt policies. He must be truthful to his constituents and respect our constitution…..Amen
oh,,,your a mind reader,,,,are you asking or telling me what my political preference is,,,,i do so wish i could attend your one of very few idealistic so-called acievements tonight,,,,,a phone box should be ample to represent the number of people who will be in attendance !!
A Fianna Fáiler, me? Are you serious? By the way, it’s Gráinne, not Gràinne…it’s an Irish name, try to get it right.
be inclined to suffer the corruptive party than the party that has no regard for life with blood on its hands !!
I’m completely opposed to Corruption. But I disagree with Shinners trying to pretend taking human life was not as big a crime as SF corruption. Remember SF is responsible for ruining peoples lives – killings innocent sons, daughters, husband, wives, dads, mums and – as well as destroying the lives of innocent girls through tarring and feathering for simply dating the wrong person.
How dare SF talk about human right?
How dare SF talk about life?
How dare SF pretend corruption is a worse crime than taking innocent life?
How dare SF talk about mental health and suicide?
How dare SF complain about the DUP taking away employment in the Maze re-building.
How dare SF try to act in a normal civil manner?
Unfortunately, Jack, there are a lot of people who either don’t care about SF’s attitude to human life, or are too stupid to think they’ve left their terrorist support behind, despite recent evidence in the charade about the prison officer’s killer. Sad, either way.
I would hope that Sinn Feins common sense overcomes their policy of inclusion in this instance. I’ddefinitely rethink giving them my first preference vote come next election if they accept him , despite them having an excellent candidate where I live.
Any party that accepts a former Fianna Fail member (especially one who was in power recently) into its ranks is over.
I see O’Snodaigh cosying up to him already. Must think Andrews still has the keys to the FF ink cartridge stash.
I look forward to seeing how the Shinners spin this one ???
Did FF not spring from the original shinners?
Are there any political parties in Ireland that did not spring from that source? I was hoping the present crisis would be the opportunity to move forward to something new – fat chance.
The current Shinners have very little connection to the origninal Shinners. Much less than FF and FG. If you chose to believe the organisation called SF in the 1960s was SF, the than you must realise that the current “SF” were a minority a lot of young Northern Irish SFers who broke away from the “SFers” in Ireland.
Tis is Ireland……nothing is ever forgotten……I’d imagine when their all getting tanked up at the bar in the Dail there is manys a civil war battle still goes on…..it’s part of our DNA……just like informers and child abuse….
I was a member of Sinn Fein in the north when it was still illegal, late 60′s/early 70′s, I collected the PDF (prisoners depends fund) door to door. I was arrested, followed, shouted at, knocked to the ground, body searched by the Brits during this time.
It that time Sinn Fein were relatively new on the ground in and about Derry. In fact it was almost unheard of at the item. As time went on we could see SF taking a leading roll. Our brightest and most forward thinking people were gradually put forward as spokespeople, there names became well known.
Now many years later and after the GFA I can now see that the idea of bringing the war to an end was being discussed and negotiated even then. SF have become a force to be reckoned with. It has many young, bright, enthusiast people who are going to take the party forward.
Having said that I think it won’t be until Gerry hands the reins over to Mary Lou, Pearse or however that they will come to true fruition. He has baggage that he hasnt been able to disregard. I don’t say this to diminish what he has done for SF…..you must remember he has a number of bullet wounds in his body to show for many, many years of dedication to his country. I personally thank him for that.
Shame on FF. We voted to remove FF. Now deposed FF member just change jersey and they get elected again. Expect the Shinners to get up to the same messing as FF if they think this kind of stunt is acceptable. Ye have been warned, but knowing the Irish, they will be suckered in and fall for the same tricks again, again and again.
Fianna Fail can hardly be responsible for the conduct of ex Members. Sinn Fein chose to allow him to join the Party and if, media reports are to be believed, he will be running for a dail seat at the next general election.
How is it shame on ff. Do you think its ffs fault if somebody joins. Really ?????
Joins another party. Sorry.
I think we should dispatch with this nonsense that Chris Andrews is joining Sinn Fein to further his political career. For those who do not know Dublin the Pembroke LEA is not West Belfast, its a cold house for Shinners. In my opinion Chris would have had an even better chance of being elected to the council next time out as an independent. He has chosen instead to join Sinn Fein. I was once in another political party before joining the Shinners in the early 2000′s and running for the party in 2004, peoples politics and there outlook can change.
At the moment we are working very hard to convince people who voted for other political parties at the last election to change to us, and that should also include reps from other parties. I would ask that voters and members give Chris a chance, see what level of work etc. he puts into the party, what he has to offer, before rushing to judgement on this matter.
Brendan as a fellow member, I resent your use of “Shinners” have a bit of respect for the Party & refrain from using a Free State media term for our Party.
So, Brendan, if it wasn’t to further his political career, why do you think it was? Did he have some kind of brain fart? I mean, let’s face it, it wasn’t because he wanted to join a party that understands honour or decency?
I love it, Malachy! You complain about the use of “Shinners”, and you have the call to call my country the “Free State”?
Is it not a state & Is it not free from Occupation from a foreign nation.
As someone born in Dublin & living here in this State, Is not a Free State.
I am aware it was declared a Republic by the Blueshirts in Canada in 1948 & haven’t been first mention in Bunreacht na hEireann in 1937. It is a free state just as Holland is a free state! But not a Republic!
I think you need to look up your definition of a republic because last time I checked we have democracy and do without a queen.
So if you don’t think it’s free or a state why do you call it a Free State? That makes no sense.
Please respond to the fact he viciously bullied a woman on anonymous accounts – do we need politicians who hide behind curtains or seek to anonymously hide in a country where dozens kill themselves everyday due to comments like these.
Fact is hes a bully. He singled out a female member of the executive who wasn’t even in the last govt – probably because she was a mohan
It doesn’t matter if it wasn’t in the Constitution originally. Fact is the Constitution prevents regression of Independence but not further gains of national independence – hence why constitutionality didn’t affect declaring a Republic, but work prevent attempts to undo that.
Grainne, Good Morning I do think that the 26 Counties is free. Of Course it is free, it is the 6 Counties that is ruled by a foreign Country. The Constitution states it is a republic. The generic term of ‘State’ is used to define Countries. So therefore a Description of the 26 Counties as a free state is a fair analysis.
Do you really expect an answer to that comment?
Malachy, you have tied yourself in knots here. First you call THIS COUNTRY the “Free State”, and while I call you on that, you say it’s not a free state (your exact words were “As someone born in Dublin & living here in this State, Is not a Free State). Then you said it wasn’t a republic, now you say it IS a free state and a republic…I can’t go on because I can’t follow your “reasoning”.
Boy, oh boy, have you ever thought of making macramé pot hangers for a living?
Who are you asking, Brendan?
Correction what I had meant to say is
” being from Dublin & born in this State – IS IT NOT A FREE STATE?
I am making the point that this 26 Counties is free & it is a State just as any other Free State.
Apologies for the misunderstanding.
In the case of the ‘Republic’ reference that was to the fact that Holland is a state & not a Republic as oppose to Ireland being a State in Europe & also a Republic.
IE two Countries one a Republic – Ireland & the other Holland not but both states!
I really didn’t think it was possible for you to tie yourself any further in knots, Malachy, but fair play to you, you’ve done yourself proud. I have NO IDEA what you’re waffling on about.
The state of politics on Ireland to-day, the electorate are as daft as ever.
………here here, Fong
This chap is in my constituency. I can’t wait for him to call to my door (unlike 2009 when the rumour was that he didn’t bother to canvas).
Looks like a desperate move by a man who craves some form of political power. Have a feeling it won’t work out for him.
As I always state on these issues, ‘DON’T GET ANGRY, GET EVEN.’ It’s sweeeeeeeeeeeeeter!!!!
Also looks like a desperate move by a political party who crave some sort of political power. Have a feeling it won’t work out for them either :-)
your use of block capitals,,,and extra eeeeeee’s in your words are comical,,,,to the degree of lacking sense
Whoooooo meeeeeeee?
No Bobby ; CAPITAL YOU ! ……………..
or is it CAPITAL “U” in the land of textual expression ?
Some people say that it impossible to go lower than FF. Andrews has proved them wrong.
People are making a big deal over Chris Andrews joining Sinn Fein, whether we agree or disagree the man is entitle to join the party and for Sinn Fein to accept his membership, it’s called democracy. When the general elections take place then the people will decide if they want to vote for Chris Andrews. There are bad politicians in every party and dishonest politicians also but it is up to the leader of that party to ensure that they are brought to task and if the leader cannot or will not exceed to this then they should resign as leader.
Right, so for example if a member is taken apart in court for not reporting paedophilia, the leader should be down on him like a ton of bricks.
Oh.
Well, would they take Brian Cowen as well? Free choice and all that.
A traitor joining a team of bandits! Honour amongst politicians, Irish style!!!
He has sold out his country and family legacy for a chance to be a councillor again.
Goes to show that all political parties are the same. Politicians all belong to a small club and look after each other…
Sinn Féin are the only party who can get Ireland strong again! People from other parties are joining Sinn Féin because they see the lies, hypocrisy and money grabbing from other parties especially FF, Fianna Fail got Ireland into this economic mess, Sinn Fein opposed austerity! Chris Andrew pointed out the disillusioned path FF are going even their own members are seeing this. Chris Andrew will be under Sinn Féin’s whip not Fianna Fail’s whip, so this will be fantastic for the people of the Island of Ireland. SF take the normal average wage and this will include Chris if he is picked/wins the local election, SF don’t take the luxurious pay because it’s unfair. Sinn Féin are encouraging voters of other parties to vote for them, SF want change so why wouldn’t SF accept representatives of other parties to create even more change! SF want equality for all citizens of Ireland North and South! I understand why people are sceptical of an ex-FF TD and Dublin councillor joining Sinn Féin a party against Fianna Fail’s many disastrous proposals but remember SF have better leadership, resources and commitment than any other party so SF know what they’re doing, Chris has obviously realised that FF are not a Republican party anymore and the ideals it once stood for is lost. SF are not perfect but I’d rather for them than FF, FG, Labour etc. All of this proves that there is a change happening in Ireland a change of people realising they’re puppets and Sinn Féin is the only party standing up against the over payed parties!
Will Eamon Gilmore be joining SF along with Michael McDowell.
SF are not a republican party they got railroaded by the socialists back in the late 70′s
Hell hath no fury!
You know yourself Eamon and Michael did not apply, so the answer is obviously no. Plus Michael is retired from politics so don’t be stupid. If they joined it would be a completely different story of an ex-TD who left a party over a year ago joining.
Ignore Declan, most people did when he was in and indeed then thrown out of Sinn Fein.
SF want a 32 county republic rather than 2 separate states with one having an undemocratic monarch. SF want a President for all of Ireland. There is different aspects of Republicanism and Sinn Féin is defiantly an Irish Republican party!
Yep! for so people they live in a world of make believe and will believe everything they are told. and can tell everything they are told that is free speech
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Declan are you still angry, I, I, I taught you had cooled down and,and and gotten over the shock, jesus christ Dec, relax it’s the weekend! :-/
do you want me to answer that in public?
Thank God as well!
Ah! the bauld Malachy how are the balls of your feet?
Ah grand Declan! How are you?
If making Ireland strong is at the price of having it done by a shower of unrepentant terrorist supporters, no thanks.
Truth, most of us want a 32 county republic, but most of us don’t want to achieve it by murdering the innocent, like SF do.
Gràinne, why don’t you stroll off up to the border and ask them gentle Unionists in a nice manner that you want our Six Counties back. Give me a call when they hand the Six Counties back to you and apologise to you,lovely people they are!
Last time I checked most people in the north and south are happy with the status quo so there is no real mandate for a 32 county republic?
Conor,”last time you checked” where was that in your local bar? I do not remember any referendum being put to our nation about a United Ireland!
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on, Grainne.
I have no interest in the unionists or the nationalists up north, Bobby. They can all float off into the Atlantic, for all I care.
That’s DEEP, Séamus. DEEP.
Ha. Any party which accepts a man who viciously bullied a girl online via anonymous account – and then his hers.
Conor what about a border poll? I didn’t know that one needed to be an academic to comment on the journal. If I remember right, wasn’t it a bunch of FAILED academics the likes of you and Micheàl Martin that caused so much carnage in this country? One do not need to have a college education to apply logic and common sense when making their views known and that unsettles the likes of you, who view everything from misinformation
What happened to “must of us would like a united Ireland”
Mask slipping there Grainne.
Horrible comment to make about your fellow irish men and women up north.
Misinformation? What misinformation?
You’re probably one of those idiots who believes in the old lie, “Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori.”
I’m talking about my fellow Irish men and women in the country I live in; the Republic. I really don’t give a damn about the crowd up north. If, some day, they decide to join us and we decide we want them, fine, but it’ll be a long time till that will happen, because with all our troubles, we’re half way to being a normal society, and the last thing we want is the madness that goes on up there.
I think, Conor, he’s more the “it’s sweet and right for OTHER PEOPLE to die for your country”. Apart from the morons that blew each other up, like the ones Sinn Féin “commemorated” a few weeks ago, the general trend of the terrorists was not to actually die themselves, but to kill innocent civilians.
Sorry but I don’t understand the gibberish language
Níorbh fhéidir leat le do thoil neamhaird a dhéanamh mo gramadach bochta Bobby. Toisc go bhfuil tú tírghráthóir, chinn mé chun labhairt leat i ár dteanga seachas an Laidin a fheiceann tú mar gibberish. Tagraíonn sé leis an bréag d’aois go bhfuil sé go maith agus mór a bás do cinn tíre.
Is Republicanism le gluaiseacht an dúr. Tá sé seo ar aghaidh ag mangairí drugaí a choinneáil ar a tírgráthóirí dílis i sheiceáil. Níl sé go maith agus go hiontach, ní mór dúinn ach saol amháin a threorú.
We only have and had trouble because of attitudes like your own.
It’s one island.
There are many islands with two or more states on them. We have one country, two states. What’s the big deal. They get on with their business, we get on with ours. The trouble comes from those who can’t accept that, not from those who can.
He’s suited to that bunch of cretins.
Ahh well Chris will be well suited with Gerry and the gang. He’s not adverse to hanging out with murderers after all…http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/08/13/bashar-al-asshat/
Are you accusing Gerry Adams of murder?
Yeah I know what you mean it really is shocking the type of people that hang out with murderers
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1072174.ece
Also, Adam, have you had a chat with your own party leader, Eamonn Gilmore, about his past affiliations?
I think you’ll find the founding fathers of the Irish free state were up to their necks in killing and mayhem
So was the current leader of Sinn From…..
I think you’ll find, Liam, they didn’t go round killing little kids or widowed mothers. Or blowing up people out for a quiet drink.
No, they tied people to landmines instead Grainne. Cue hair splitting…
That is correct Liam, it is called…..WAR and in this country our founding fathers carried our that WAR in my name and all that call them selfs Irish and hold an Irish Passport? Proud of ALL Irish men and women that fought against the British war machine!
Chris was never really suited to FF, and adhering to the whip must have been difficult. Has always shown his independence on issues such as Gazza putting his neck on the line in pursuit of highlighting the injustice and hardships being inflicted on the innocent children caught up on the war there. Whilst a FF TD he was one of the first to stick his head above the pulpit and call for Brian Cowan to step down over the bank bailout plan, and then continued to pursue the bankers with the high pension payouts. Voluntarily took a reduction in TD’s salarya dn called on all others to do so. Supporting the Save Moore street all whilst not politically represented. Could have easily went independent but decided to accept the call from Sinn Fein that his great grandfather was also a member before FF and now accept basic salary’s in line with SF policy. Sinn Fein are the ones gaining here.
Fianna Fail are anti-Israel, especially
their leader Martin.
So Sean, he showed his concern for injustice against children in Gaza, and now he’s joining a party that was, at the every least, a supporter of people who took away a mother in front of her crying children and shot her dead. A supporter of people who blew up little Kathryn Eakin while she was washing the windows of her parents’ shop.
Strange move for a man with a supposed concern for injustice.
and thats only the tip of the iceberg Grainne
,,,and the “I’m Not Drunk, I Just Keep Repeating Myself Even When I’m Sober” Award for today goes to…
I forgot about the Gaza thing. Hmmm an FFer with principals. I’ll have to have a think.
Sinn Fein aint perfect and MUST move on and away from the gun. The war of independence and the Civil war in Ireland has proved that we can deal with the past, unfortunately some cannot accept it YET. It was a hurtful and tragic time for a lot of family’s. This is a good move by the shinners and hopefully it can help them on that road where they can become acceptable to the public. Of course they did dreadful things, but so has FG, Labour, FF and a couple of the independents. Suicide in this country is becoming the biggest tragedy out of this recession. Austerity doesn’t work. Sorry folks but that’s the bare facts.
Sean, the Sinn Féin his great grandfather was a member of is not the same organisation that calls itself Sinn Féin today. They just share a name. The SF of old would never has supported the terrorism that plagued these two islands for decades.
The problem, Sean, is that SF is showing no signs of moving away from the gun. In fact, they go out of their way to show they have no intention of it; just look at their overt support a few weeks ago for the “commemoration” of the deaths of those bombers who blew themselves up.
Grainne, Mary Lou, Pierce Doherty, Chris Andrews have never been involved in the murder or violence you speak about. It’s time to move on this is the sinn fein party people would like to see.
I was considering voting Sinn Fein for the first time in the next election.
With the political clown Chris Andrews on board that’s blown that idea.
Someone please set up a new party quickly.
Stay on that empty BUS then and keep going, NOWHERE!!
So where does he go then? A party which accepts a man who viciously bullied people on anonymous accounts online.
SF have nothing to shoot their heads off about. Pardon the intended pun.
Ann, SF don’t shoot THEIR heads off. They just support the shooting of other people’s heads, arms, legs…
I know Chris personally and am delighted to see him back actively involved in party politics. It is a relief that my vote for Chris will no longer be a FF preference
So you’re going to vote for this guy even though he’s joined a party that supports terrorism? How sick is that?
“back actively involved in party politics”
And any old party will do, eh?
Did you ever hear about a thing called The Peace Process, Gráinne?
Do you actually know him personally. Sure I’ll ask him that next time I see him – I call a lie.
Andrews is a disgrace, a bully, a nobody – FF don’t want him after he singled out a woman on their executive abuse – a woman who wasn’t even in the last govt. She was singled out for being a woman , he viewed her an easier targer, Hes anti=women and anti-progress. He’ll never get my preference no matter what his party for that.
Chris Andrews has made a decision to join SF after close examination of what best represents his views on the domestic & international issues. It is well known that Chris was growing very disillusioned with FF & it’s was fast becoming a Party that had neglect the ordinary Joe. People that his Grandfather Todd Andrews had always fought for.It is very easy to view this as a FFer jumping ship & Sinn Fein accepting him without some sort of comprehensive discussion. He is but one of many people recently who left other Parties to join SF. The only difference is that he is more high profile than most.
Theres a huge difference. A tiny number have switched to SF. SF remains in reality a Northern Party with tiny Southern membership for a “32 county Party”.
Stop pretending Andrews is decent. He is a disgrace. He is a troll – he singled out a woman for abuse, who wasn’t even in the last govt., probably for being a woman.
He is a bully, a disgrace, a nobody. He only switched as it was made clear to him there was no future place for him in the future,.
So, Malachy, if Chris Andrews now is a member of a party that best represents his views, does that mean that he believes that the way to get what you want is to terrorise the public with murder in order to get governments to do what you want?
I know Chris personally and a harder working local politician you couldn’t meet. He attends and supports every local community event. Good luck with SF, you have my support
If he’s so great, explain why he viciously bullied a woman via an anonymous accounts, in a country where this is causing the video games.
Chris is a hardworking politician who actually gives a crap about politics in Ireland. Happy enough with his decision, may be the right one for him. I’m sure he didn’t come to this party change lightly. Best of luck to him.
Hardworking,,,,at feathering their own nests
Tell that to the woman he viciously bullied through on anonymous account. He couldn’t give a crap about real issues, as he’s already contradicted issues like suicide, mental etc. – indeed were lucky he didn’t contribute to them.
He’s a disgrace. FF made it clear they didn’t want him after the recent scandal. CAA trying to prefer otherwise
Just when you think SF might be worth a vote they always seem to go and do something like this.
Ah Jesus Miko can you come up with a better comment than that childish one. It is like a child saying you would not let me kick the ball so I’m not playing.
Decent comment.
No, Mike, I would NEVER get to the point where I think SF might be worth a vote…
Mmm jumping from one party to another looks like I,m so desperate to get elected I,ll say or do anything. It does not look good for SF to accept a candidate who was bounced out of his own party for doing silly things. It just looks like no integrity. Think SF made a mistake on this one I think Andrews gets more from this then SF.
Andrew, your comments are full of wishful thinking and meaningless
As a floating voter that’s what it looks like to me
I think (or maybe hope) that people want an alternative to the current bunch of blood sucking parasites. SF is a possibility but they still have a long way to go – I don’t know much about Chris Andrews, but taking in anybody from that band of self serving traitors is a bad sign.
As a Sinn Fein Councillor i spent 8 days in the same cell with Chris Andrews. After the first night i asked him to join Sinn Fein. He was giving his time to help break the blockade in Gaza.I was very proud of the way he and all of the passengers and crew and the way they behaved themselves. Every time the Israeli thugs tryed to humiliate us or belittle us we all stuck together.When they beat, kicked and tazered the passengers on the Canadian boat. They knew they were not going to do that to us.Because we told them the judge,the governor and the prison staff we were kidnap victims and we wouldn’t be obeying their laws and rules.As the elected spokesperson for the republicans every time i asked Chris to stand with us he did and the prison governor eventually gave up on us a gave us a wing to ourselves and left us alone.When your back is to the wall you need men wholl stand up Chris did every time thats why i done everything i could to get him into the party. Im delighted i hope Chris like Mary Lou and Chris o Leary who both joined from other partys will go on to work hard for Sinn Fein.
John, it’s a bit rich of you to talk of Israeli thugs when you and your party supported the commemoration of IRA thugs who blew themselves up. Sort out your own mess before getting involved in other people’s messes.
Conclusive proof Fianna Fáil recruit twits.
I had intended voting for SF, against my better judgement, but taking in a former FF apologist for Palestinian terrorists has just cost them any of my votes. Looks like it’ll be left wing parties ( definitely not Labour) and Independents. What a depressing choice of parties this country offers.
Richard, your post makes no sense. You WERE going to vote for Sinn Féin, who are apologists for “republican” terrorism, and now you’re not going to because Chris Andrews, according to you, is an apologist for Palestinian terrorism…
He’s really biting the Bullet now!
Not a big fan of either party but really think Sinn Fein have made mistake here this is not going to play well with voters especially the youth vite who are sick of politicians from political dynasties. Honestly thought Sinn Fein stood for more than this.
Idiot !!!!
I awoke this beautiful sunny Sunday morning looking out to Sea at a massive tanker anchored of the Kinsale coast. The sun twinkling on the calm sea whilst a smile beamed on my face.
It wasn’t a smile brought on by the beauty that was before me. I was smiling at the immense pleasure of knowing that the Cartel which makes up the Fianna Fáil family a cartel that is responsible for so much carnage to our nation, has now been weakened to its foundations.
However the process of elimination is unfinished, the roots must be uprooted.
WHAT A BEAUTIFUL DAY!
Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile. :)
Stephen Murphy you have your head in a very dark place only you have a good Irish surname i would say you were British you need to looooooooooook up your Irish History cop your self on get a life and stop leaving C,,p comments you got the FF FG and labour bit right the sacrifice Gerry Martin and all the volunteers over the last 800 years are the true sons of Ireland and to see the the likes of you talking true your A,,e makes me sick.
Hey Mary Lou ; where did you get the term ; Hood Robin” …just asking like ?
It was very good I liked it !
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