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(L to R) Pearse Doherty, spokesperson on housing Eoin O Broin, Sinn Fein leader Mary Lou McDonald and Mark Ward Alamy

McDonald accuses FF and FG of treating Sinn Féin voters as ‘second-class citizens’

Her comments came amid increasing focus on coalition permutations post the General Election.

SINN FÉIN PRESIDENT Mary Lou McDonald has accused Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil of treating her party’s voters as second-class citizens.

McDonald suggested her rivals’ outright dismissal of Sinn Féin as a potential coalition partner demonstrated a lack of respect for the party’s supporters.

Her comments came amid increasing focus on coalition permutations post the General Election on 29 November.

Launching her party’s proposals on housing at an event in west Dublin today, McDonald accused the lead parties in the last government of showing a lack of humility.

If I was to listen to the coalition parties, I wouldn’t get up out of bed in the morning.

“They can’t pass a microphone without stating how appalled they are, and how they will never ever, ever speak to Sinn Féin,” she said.

“They were at that in the last election as well.

“Let me just on that make this point – a lot of people vote for Sinn Fein, rely on us to represent them. I would ask Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael to try and muster at least a little bit of respect for the communities and the voters who vote for us.

“They’re not second-class citizens, they are equal voters, just like everybody else, and I think they should demonstrate a little bit of humility and a little bit of respect towards those citizens too.”

‘Entitled to different perspectives’

Asked about the Sinn Féin leader’s comments, Tánaiste Micheál Martin said that McDonald had made similar comments about Fianna Fail.

“Mary Lou has said to voters that they shouldn’t go into government with Fianna Fáil,” he said speaking in Dublin.

“Sinn Féin has said that the last party they should go into government (with) is Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael.

“If that’s the case I don’t understand how Mary Lou can say … it’s an insult if you say that Sinn Féin can’t be in government but it’s not an insult if you say Fianna Fáil shouldn’t be in government.”

He said that Sinn Féin’s opposition to the current economic model that Ireland has and what he called a Eurosceptic party “at their core” meant the parties were not compatible.

He has said the party would not be happy to go into government with Sinn Féin, but added that, as with any government formation talks, it will come down to policies and principles.

“I always respect the electorate, always, people are entitled to different perspectives.”

While McDonald has said the “best outcome” of the election would be a government without Fine Gael and Fianna Fail, she has stopped short of ruling out entering into a partnership with her long-term rivals.

“Our position of wanting to have a government beyond Fianna Fail and Fine Gael is now a long-standing one, there’s nothing new in it,” she told reporters on Tuesday.

“We believe after a century of those two parties dominating and running government that the time is right now for a change, that is the answer, that is the way in which we can make the changes that will benefit our society.”

At the launch of his party’s manifesto in Dublin, Green Party leader Roderic O’Gorman was asked about the prospect of re-entering government after the Greens served as a junior partner in the last administration.

“First of all, I haven’t heard anybody rule us out,” he said.

“What I’ve heard is an attempt, I think, by Fine Gael and Fianna Fail to get the numbers themselves that they won’t need any support, but if there’s a need for additional parties, I think those negotiations will take place.

“We’ve demonstrated that we can negotiate hard. We’ve demonstrated that we can create a really effective programme for government, but we’re making it very clear today that increased investment, 10 billion into public transport, is a key issue for us in those programme for government negotiations.”

Meanwhile, Social Democrats leader Holly Cairns said the government parties were acting as if the election is “sewn up”.

“I see them even talking about which ministries they want, who might go first as taoiseach, eyeing up their coalition partners – all of these kind of things is astounding to see,” she said.

“If there’s anything I learned from the last election, a lot can change in three weeks.”

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    Mute Ruairi Gagarin
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    Jul 15th 2018, 12:49 PM

    I bet they wished they had paid the additional oxygen fee, now!

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    Mute Dave Thomas
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    Jul 15th 2018, 12:50 PM

    Imagine taking a coach to your destination from the airport after a Ryanair flight?

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    Jul 15th 2018, 12:59 PM

    @Dave Thomas: it is a two hour coach or train transfer from a lot of their airports.

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    Jul 15th 2018, 1:12 PM

    @David Dickson: I think that’s what he was getting at

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    Jul 15th 2018, 1:30 PM

    @Pauliebhoy: I’m having a slow Sunday.

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    Mute Laura Crowe
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    Jul 15th 2018, 12:57 PM

    “A few passengers” = 30 ?

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    Mute Euro is Dead
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    Jul 15th 2018, 12:58 PM

    What about Ryanair Rooms. Not enough accommodation in the city of Frankfort . I think not

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    Mute David Dickson
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    Jul 15th 2018, 1:01 PM

    @Euro is Dead: it was Frankfurt-Hahn, 125 kilometres to Frankfurt.

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    Jul 15th 2018, 1:11 PM

    @Euro is Dead: try finding accommodation for a plane full of passengers at 11pm on a Friday night in Dublin, shannon or cork Plus for operational reasons they’d try to keep passengers together.

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    Mute Sean Leonard
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    Jul 15th 2018, 2:19 PM

    @Dara Smith: my sentiments exactly, you wouldn’t get a tent in Dublin or anywhere else at that hour of night

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    Mute Michael McLoughlin
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    Jul 15th 2018, 5:05 PM

    @Euro is Dead: Frankfurt Hahn is closer to Luxembourg city than it is to Frankfurt

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    Mute Deborah McKenna
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    Jul 15th 2018, 2:23 PM

    The comments here are a bit insensitive this was a terrifying ordeal I don’t think a lovely but if compensation is the issue .

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    Mute Gaz Barclay Dunnes
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    Jul 15th 2018, 3:37 PM

    @Deborah McKenna: why not, a proper investigation into it and a penalty to make sure it never reoccurs 30 x 40k more like

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    Jul 15th 2018, 12:49 PM

    Lovely bit of compensation. €400 per pax minimum :)

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    Mute Paraic
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    Jul 15th 2018, 1:01 PM

    @kevinhunt101: I think burst eardrums, the embarrassment of involuntary bowel purging, near suffocation and the fear of your impending death must be worth more than €400.

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    Mute Daniel O'Connor
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    Jul 15th 2018, 1:19 PM

    @Paraic: so…..€425?

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    Jul 15th 2018, 4:16 PM

    @Paraic: Fear of Death? Would you get a grip! It was a controlled descent due to cabin depressurisation not a hole in the aircraft! Not once during that flight was there a risk of fatality. The media are making this out to be much worse than it is, slow news week it would seem

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    Mute Paraic
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    Jul 15th 2018, 6:30 PM

    @Jordan Dunne: Lots of people already have fear of flying before boarding. Do you think they were unfazed when there was a sudden and rapid decompression event, the oxygen masks popped down, they began bleeding from their ears and nose and shat their pants involuntarily? Not to mention the fact that rapid decompression has often been catastrophic to flights historically. The plane descended from 36,000ft to about 10,000 in mere seconds. Irrespective of whether it was in control of the pilot, it was terrifying for the passengers. You’re the one who needs to get a grip!

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    Jul 16th 2018, 12:59 AM

    @Jordan Dunne: lol, have you ever been on a plane? Or met people? Somehow I really doubt the latter.

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    Jul 17th 2018, 2:02 AM

    @Paraic: 36000 to 10000 feet in seconds ? Well thats just a blatant lie. Id say you must be terrified of flying.

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    Jul 15th 2018, 4:12 PM

    De pressurisation is not unusual, and it is trained for by the crew – how frequest? there can one a day or one a week worldwide, in fact one study suggested two depressurisation a day based on the number of hours flown, but that data could be a little out of date, just it is not a rare event and almost all pass without incident or media coverage.

    When it happens and an aircraft springs a leak, which essentially what depressurisation is, a few things happen.. as the internal air pressure falls owing to air leaking out, the oxygen masks will be ploy automatically, however the crew may deploy them in advance too. The crew try to descend around 12,000 feet where most people can breathe with no difficulty, and the aircraft could continue safely, and with no more need for oxgyen or masks, to it;s destination, as happens if this happens over water. However, unless there is a known reason for the depressurisation, the aircraft may choose to land.

    We all know the effects on our ears of normal flight operations and depressurisation make this worse if sudden, Most decompressions on aircraft are slow enough so that the emergency descent operated by the crew avoids serious issues, but if the depressurisation is rapid enough then the issue becomes more serious.

    One can think of a balloon which can leak air slowly and slowing deflating and the balloon that goes pop – both are burst but one is slow and the other destructive. This really does seem to have been a quite serious decompression if passengers were unfit to fly afterwards, even if just “playing it safe”.

    We should hope they all recover with no lasting issues, but also not fear decompressisation as it is a well trained for procedure.

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    Jul 15th 2018, 4:20 PM

    @Niall Ó Cofaigh: the Cabin pressure controller failed. The masks deployed automatically and pilots followed standard procedure by making a controlled rapid descent . Aircraft landed safely with some minor injuries. Not that big a deal

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    Jul 15th 2018, 7:27 PM

    @Jordan Dunne: Is your real name Michael O Leary?

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    Jul 17th 2018, 2:02 AM

    @Paraic: hehe you got me

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    Jul 15th 2018, 3:40 PM

    think they continue by air ambulance

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