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NICKI MINAJ HAS cancelled her performance at a festival in Romania over ‘safety concerns’, the day after she came under fire from fans after she arrived late to the stage while performing at Malahide Castle in Dublin on Saturday – and proceeded to leave early.
The Trinidadian-born rapper and singer who is based in the US was an hour and a half late to the stage in Malahide. Her support act, Dan Duffy and Dansie, continued playing after Minaj was due to perform to bridge the gap.
She performed for less than an hour, including time taken for costume changes.
One caller to Liveline this afternoon said that the singer’s set lasted for 55 minutes, but about 15 minutes of that was taken up by costume changes.
Fans are calling upon Ticketmaster for refunds after the disastrous concert left concert-goers waiting in the rain for Minaj to emerge. There was speculation at the venue that she would not perform, and a number of attendees left before she did perform after hearing from others that she wasn’t going to make an appearance.
Ticketmaster has referred fans to organiser MCD to dispute the issue of refunds.
Tickets for the concert were from €89.90.
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Debacle in Malahide last night. Nicki Minaj an hour and a half late, played a 45 minute set, cut her songs in half. People stood for hours in the rain waiting for her. She obviously has no respect for her fans. Waiting to see @mcd_productions statement on this as people did not…
@TMIrelandHelp wondering if there will be a refund for the Nicki Minaj concert in malahide last night as she came on 2 hours late and played a 30 minute set. Paid €300+ for tickets, simply not acceptable
Malahide Castle operates under a strict curfew of 10:30pm. Minaj, who was meant to begin at 8:20pm, did not begin her set until around 9:50pm.
“Under consumer protection law, traders must supply services, including concerts, that match the contract they have in place with the consumer,” said a spokesperson from the Competition and Consumer Protection Commission (CCPC).
“Where the trader fails to supply the service in accordance with the contract, the consumer may have the right to terminate the contract and receive a full or partial refund.
The CCPC suggested that customers refer back to the terms and conditions to see if they stipulate the performance times of the artist.
“If after reviewing the terms and conditions the consumer believes that the trader is acting outside of the contract terms and conditions, we would suggest that they consider making a formal complaint to the trader in writing, outlining the issue and how they would like the matter to be resolved,” the Commission spokesperson said.
“Should the matter remain unresolved, the consumer may wish to request a chargeback from their card provider and/or consider lodging a claim through the Small Claims Court.”
MCD have been contacted for comment.
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In Spain a few years ago, I overstayed time in a metered zone. There was a notice and envelope on my windscreen. I had 6 hours to put double the outstanding charge in the envelope and post it in the slot under the meter. Prosecution or a large fine would only kick in after that time. Extremely civilised way of dealing with either deliberate or unintentional underpayment.
It was a civil offence, not a criminal offence. He will therefore have a civil record, but not a criminal one. His travel to the US will be unaffected.
bernadette@ …that would be the right way to do it .but what of the rip off for the legal profession .Ireland is a sick and sad country run by these leeches
No Brian-it’s not a criminal offence-he answered that question on newstalk today,in an interview with George hook..if it did he would let the whole know!!..
Something definitely has to be done about this, I was recently charged €40 for a ticket that ran out of time by only 6 minutes, if it is the case that a ticket does expire then okay people should be charged say an extra euro or two (at most €5) if they are not back to their car within an hour of the expiration of the ticket, but to charge people the same as not getting a parking ticket is just stupid.
I spent over €200 buying things online recently from Amazon, I could have bought these things in my town, yet I decided not to. If the local authorities don’t want us to to use the shops then just say so. Parking fines are a detriment to anywhere that uses them.
Councils do not aim to make things easier for the ordinary Joe Soap, rather get the last penny they can out of them. Every town in Ireland is damaged by parking laws. And high rates.
Something has to be done about your mentality.
You need to take responsibility for your time. You already have the option to only pay an extra Euro or two, by putting an extra Euro or two in the meter, BEFORE you go off.
“by only 6 minutes”
I once saw a German woman admonish a bus driver for being one and a half minutes late. They seem to have grasped the concept of time over there. Rules are rules, they are not guidelines. Maybe we should have a system where when we say a time or a figure, we really mean time plus 6 minutes, 7 for the next chap. Of course, you would still be late, by an additional 6 minutes.
You spent €200 on Amazon, that by your own admission, you could have spent locally. Being Irish of course, you blame someone else for a decision, you made. What a courageous fellow. Congratulations on propping up the UK economy. You showed those Irish businesses a thing or two.
Liam…..so is that only when your caught. I expect that if you put in an hours fee and come back 2 hours later that your going to drive off if you dont have a notice on your car???? or maybe your that honest ?
@ Adrian – Firstly I put all of the coins I had in my wallet, which was €1.20 into the machine, secondly the machine doesn’t take any notes so I had no more money to put in the machine, third I was getting my hair cut and the queue was very long, by the time I got back the ticket was on my car, so when you say “You need to take responsibility for your time”, if you could actually predict the future then your comment would have merit but you can’t so it doesn’t.
And lastly yes I could of spent that €200 locally, but I did It out of spite not to, so maybe when town councils see that local businesses are suffering they will rethink this stupid policy.
Listen to yourself. Your excuses are lame. Do you take any responsibility here. Is the traffic warden a mind reader ? – ‘shur I’ll let this lad go – he is getting his haircut’
@Liam hahah are you for real?? Grow up and welcome to the world.
If your ticket says your time expires at 1.30..that means either you are leaving by then or you go put an extra euro in to have the time to get your haircut..it’s called being organised thinking ahead..hate moaners like you making excuses.
@Liam. Same crazy stuff from ‘the city of Westminster’ once over there with a reserved entrance ticket at a fixed time to visit Buckingham Palace visitors area. Paid for 2 hrs parking on the street (some crazy amount like 6 pnds etc) because of the rush to be there as the tour started and being with a baby etc I turned the stupid ticket the wrong way around on the dash. No amount of explaining could save me from a fine of 50 pnds for supposedly having no ticket purchased. Those little henchmen/women whether in an office or on the streets are part of a crying disorder, a mental one, and not part of any attempt to enforce order. A towns parking officers should be taking orders from people who are in sympathy with the idea that the area be attractive for people to spend time in, and not threatening them with extreme consequences for every little mistake. The Germans mentioned above (although very punctual) already know this and there is always a grace period on condition of course that you bother to buy a ticket in the first place.
@ FDL, Ordinary Lad and Adrian. Being organised doesn’t always work. Let’s say someone who is ultra organised gets caught short, (now use your imagination lads) and, in spite of being organised, goes over their parking limit by eight minutes, and gets a fine. I wonder how any of you three self righteous knowalls would feel then. Oh by the way, it did happen!!!
Let me role play the mind reading meter warden here ….: ‘shur that Mick’s car, he is always ultra organised, something unforeseen must have happened – I’m going to let him slide too’. Get real lads – overstay your time and you get a ticket – suck it up, I would.
I recently had to pay a €120 clamping fee to Dublin City clampers – my ticket had flipped over when I closed the car door. I was able to show the clamper that I had a valid ticket when I was clamped. I appealed but they rejected my appeal. I then sent a solicitors letter. They gave me half the money back eventually. Disgraceful
Listening to the responses on here would make me despair. Rules are great and all in principle but blindly following rules without any amount of common sense or leeway is not a society that I want to live in. Plenty of things were against the rules, women voting and homosexuality as two quick examples.
I’m not comparing a parking ticket to these examples but I’m rather using it to apply a principle of common sense to the world. A parking warden should not be unreasonable in her application of the rules, and absolutely should use common sense… is applying a ticket for a customer using a local business that is a couple of minutes late back a good idea in the bigger picture? Of course it isn’t.
I recently commented after a few work trips abroad that the reason the Irish do so well in other countries is a natural ability to not allow the status quo define their expectations. Perhaps I was too kind.
I run a business in DL employing 7 people and due to the campaign set upon us by the parking wardens I have now decided to relocate to Sandyford. This decision has been hard made but due to the parking restrictions my 7 staff will no longer be in the area buy lunches and frequent local businesses. Shame on the council for driving people out of the area.
Without parking restrictions then there is no parking for actual customers, then maybe not you, but someone else, has to relocate anyway. Parking restrictions exist for a reason.
So… basically what he’s saying is he was still in the parking space 16min after his paid time ran out. The grace period is there to avoid situations like this, not a bonus 15min of parking.
He wants a grace period for his grace period. I don’t think it’s a great way for him to argue his point.
Parking is expensive in D/L. With ridiculous restrictions and time limits. And plenty of wardens on the prowl (way more than I’ve ever seen elsewhere). But there is a better way to argue for commerce and quality of life surely.
In fairness I live in Waterford and the charges are draconian compared to DL. I was in DL two ears ago and was very impressed by the aforementioned grace period of 15 minutes before and after a ticket.
I am confused, he refused to pay the fine because he ran over time by a few min or he does not agree with local conceal protocol or he is up his own arse
Dun Laoghaire seafront is lovely but up towards the mainstreet its an awful drab looking place with awful shops. I parked on the seafront and had to use a card to pay for parking as there was no coin option. The instructions on the machine were not easy to follow so much so everyone using it had to sewk help from the person before. Well done DLRCO. Clowns…
That superfluous new library that Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown County Council are building is a monstrosity which is about to destroy the vista of Dun Laoghaire which one sees from the pier and when approaching from the sea. It is an ugly, grey, oversized, municipal slab of a building which will block-out the classy view that people currently have of the beautiful, historic and not long renovated Royal Marine Hotel.
That guy will make an issue out of anything. So full of his own self importance. Has he ever taken on an issue that doesn’t directly affect him personally?
He argues for religion cos he is religious, against feminism cos he’s a man, against bloggers cos they say mean things about him, and now parking costs in his home town…
The fact Water’s is so successful is more a reflection on how bland and inane Irish media is in itself. He’s often the only Journo out there that brings something different to the table. He’s the best of a bad bad bunch, and though he pis*es me off more often than not, when he’s writing about the media in particular he’s untouchable.
You dislike him because you are an atheist, your belief(and therefore everything the man does will be wrong to you) while criticising him for arguing for his beliefs.
He argues against feminism because it advocates a raw brand of sexism with nobody calling them out.
You say he is ‘full of his own self importance’ a phrase used by losers, who tend to have a crippling inferiority complex and have achieved nothing in life. I am sure you are different.
Blame for what exactly? What on earth are you on about? At least waters chooses a coherent topic to spew his incoherent pseudointellectual bile over. You just seem to string random sentences together and pretend it all makes sense.
I never EVER agree with Waters but this is an exception. Congratulations Mr Waters all is forgiven, …………….until you write your next bleedin’ article. (That sounds like Catholicism)
Oh come on, Niall.
Having fun with fundamental religious nuts and fundamental atheist nuts is always worthwhile. They tend to take themselves way too seriously when in fact they are a mirror image of each other.
As a side note, I think the comment posting difficulties is a technical fault rather than big brother.
Is that an Atheist that doesn’t fly planes into skyscrapers, or doesn’t believe in fairies, or doesn’t believe in brainwashing children into their grandparents religion, or thinks the Earth is 4.5 billion years old, or that the Universe is nearly 14 billion years old, or that all religion is superstitious nonsense, or that a “soul” is something on the bottom of your shoe, or that all claims need evidence, or that Science works?
People who purport the false choice that belief in a higher power, be it God, Gods or my personal deity, Thundercats, don’t believe in the scientific method(that would rule out the bulk of the greatest minds in human history)
People who believe that atrocities are only carried out by and in the name of their current chosen deity. Atheist Russia wiped out 10% of their population. Hitler(at the risk of Godwin) believed in Survival of the fittest(in a gross distortion of Darwin) to be the only Law and justification.
People who lump religion and agnostics together.
People who foam at the mouth when you express an opinion that falls outside their own paradigm.
The separation needs to be made between the vast majority of people who are simply atheists and their fundamentalist minority who give the rest a bad name. Bit like religion, actually
and a straw man for good measure, Billy.
Who is trying to put God into the scientific method except fundamentalist religious types and the fundamentalist atheists who are desperately trying to lump everyone else, in with them.
Do you even know what the, open inverted commas, scientific method, close inverted commas, is?
You lack of belief in a God is a guess.
You can wiggle all you like, it is no more than a guess.
No more valid than the one true faith.
Lion-o, All Power to him
Wow 90% of members of the national and royal academies of sciences; and 60% of scientists in general don’t believe in the scientific method. That’s quite a claim there brainiac.
Yeah lets completely ignore marxism and blame a tiny component of that political ideology on everything that went wrong. And why is hitler even in the list. He was not an atheist and even if he was, the majority of nazis were religious. Gott mitt uns (god with us) was on every nazi belt buckle. Irrational dogma is the cause of all the atrocities you named. Irrational dogma is dangerous whether it is religious in nature or political. These arguments have been refuted a million times. The only reason they’re still out there is that people like you have nothing better to fall back on. You are not arguing from a reasonable position.
So your idea of an atheist fundanentalist is the atheist who looks at all the damage caused by irrational dogma and has the courage to speak out against it, regardless of all the people around him telling him he has to shut up.
People like you protect religion from the scrutiny it deserves. People like you are the reason that as recently as 2004 a victim of sexual abuse who attempted to report it at a Garda station, was told it was a matter for the bishop. That can only happen in an environment where religion gets special protection.
You should try to gain some critical thinking skills. It will help you purge some of the lies you were taught as fact in your religion controlled school.
An atheist fundamentalist is an figment of the religious imagination, it is their way of saying Atheists are as fanatical and deluded as the religious fundamentalists. The question is how does one become a real mean kick-ass atheist fundamentalist?
All you have to do is tell the truth about superstitions, point out how ridiculous these superstitions are, last but not least be really mean and ask for proof of a god or gods…….
“All you have to do is tell the truth about superstitions, point out how ridiculous these superstitions are, last but not least be really mean and ask for proof of a god or gods”
All you have to do is treat the topic of religion like any other topic of discussion and engage it critically.
We need as many people as possible engaged in critical discussion of religion, if for no other reason, to remove the special privilege the topic has been traditionally granted. People like Adrian are aiding the continuance of that dangerous tradition.
@angry40yrold Good Flying spaghetti Gods. 4 posts across two days. A nerve, exposed.
Early forties, as your kind of bitterness and anger is not that of a young man who wants to turn his anger into something positive but that of a misanthropic man. A man that uses the honourable and arguable belief in Atheism as a crutch for these failings.
‘irrational dogma, ignorance, unreasonable position, lack of critical thinking etc.’
Since time immemorial, people who have a different opinion than me and think differently than me.
“Wow 90% of members of the national and royal academies of sciences; and 60% of scientists in general don’t believe in the scientific method.”
This is in response to what? or do you have that fact, on a hair-trigger, ready to be used regardless of the situation. There once was a man, made of a strange farm like material.
As a side note, do you honestly believe the best and brightest end up in Academia? Seriously? Again, that rules out a lot of people. You think there is anyone in academia smarter than Jamie Dimon, Zuckerberg, Gates, Jobs.
I have never heard anyone disputing Hitlers fundamental belief(hideous misinterpretation) in natural selection as the justification of everything and a belief in a Wagnerian paganism. The Church was only useful as a stepping stone to his brand of hatred and seen as too powerful to initially usurp. He was an avid reader and misinterpreter of Nietsche “God is dead”. Again, Hitler decided to take what he wanted from the book as is his horrible and deliberate misinterpretation of Darwin.
““The law of selection justifies this incessant struggle, by allowing the survival of the fittest. Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure.”
but……… you have a belt buckle.
A stronger argument would be his speeches regarding the church. Too ingrained to take on directly.
Himmler had no such qualms.
All Communism is Atheist. It’s a fact. Atrocities carried out under that banner. Irrational dogma is the cause of all atrocities but is perfectly rational to the people carrying out, said atrocities. People who cannot see past their own beliefs or lack of beliefs. Right buddy.
All atrocities are caused by man(and women). There will be Corruption and horrors done because man is an evolved ape. These horrors will be done under the banner of Christianity, Islam, Atheism or Voodoo and fools will fail to see the link, the true underlying cause, Man himself.
Joe, you ask for proof of God.(Surely, Brian O’Driscoll and McNuggets) Show me proof that Thundercats do not rule the universe. You can’t therefore it is irrelevant to Science. I cannot claim it as fact. No religion can claim anything as fact unless it is falsifiable. Science is not how much evidence you have to back something up, it’s how much effort you have put into falsifying it. Belief in a higher power or lack of belief in a higher power has nothing to do with Science. They are mere guesses. As long as you keep your beliefs out of the Lab, there will be no trouble.
All you fundamentalists can wiggle, you can squirm but there is no way around it. A guess coated in a philosophy.
Unfortunately, whenever people think of Atheists, they think of bitter, angry simpletons such as yourself, as opposed to the Atheists who are in the vast majority, who have simply not seen enough evidence to justify a belief in a higher power. Worse, people link Secularism with you. A gross violation of the only acceptable form of relationship between State and Religion.
Aindi, you better check their birth certs before making that claim, you know how good the public bodies are at new ideas for getting revenue from their citizens,especially through the courts. So be careful of the words as distinct from the widely held sentiment.
John has just been interviewed on Newstalk.
According to his account of events it must have cost the government a multiple of his fine.
What kind of a Mickey Mouse republic do we live in?!
How many offenders are in jail for not paying their tv licence?
Quite a few at great expense.
Is Ireland moving toward becoming a police state?
Anyway…good to have you back John.
In fairness, if the state deems trying to imprison people the appropriate response to overstaying on a parking meter, I don’t think you can entirely blame John Waters for the extra expense.
It’s not quite a harrowing banged up abroad and I know he can irritate many , but I’m with him on this one 100% , what kind of securicrats are ruining place like DL with bullshit threats of prison for overstaying a parking meter , have we lost the complete run of the country altogether , he was making valid points on NT earlier , it’s not as if the prison system isn’t already stretched and we have the money and resources to be wasting on this crap , it’s obviously not about the 49 euro it’s the principle ,and as many have said jailing people for tv licences , parking etc , in a country where banksters , questionable developers and tribunals into corruption seemed to leave very few seeing inside a jail the country has a lot to fix before putting people in jails here for such relatively minor offences.
This was a STUNT – just to be interviewed , getting his 5 minutes of fame, and no doubt will bore us with trash about his prison stay that lasted a cuple of minute. Police state I think is when the Police make all the rules Mr Merinov, Ireland is a country that the Courts either convict or free the citizens and elected Governments pass laws.
Waters give us a break
Ha ha – a secularist atheist conspiracy no doubt. It would not have happened in the 50s blah blah. They should have given him the chair for crimes against language.
Jane, it is no coincidence that it was a woman who placed the parking ticket on his car, a female Garda who decided that he should be brought to jail and a female prison officer who checked him into prison.
It is according to dear oppressed John the conspiracy of the monstrous regimen of women or, as John calls the, the regimen of monstrous women.
Poor John. The women have it in for him.
He has appealed to the Vatican for asylum. A true political prisoner. A prisoner of conscience.
I like some of the points you make Adrian, but not the venom. You can make a point – a strong point – without the venom and dismissiveness too. Try it fella, the point will stand on its own :}
Alright Jane/Peter. Read up on the term ‘social contract’. Likely you’ll find that women get imprisoned 40% less for the exact same crimes in most of the western world. Keep it civil folks because personally, when I see the term misandry, I’m like a fly to shit – and guess what? I ddn’t spend years in college studying misogyny. No folks – humour is fine – anything other than that in a country where 500 young fella’s kill themselves a year isn’t.
Dear Niall, I have been nothing but civil. In using the term “misandry” I was quoting Waters himself in one of his more tedious articles – can’t remember which one.
And what, pray, does a privileged middle-aged man refusing to pay a justly-earned parking fine have to do with the tragedy of young Irish men committing suicide?
Niall, please cite authority for those figures of 40 % less imprisonment. Is this for comparable crimes. Is this based on Irish statistics. Please enlighten us. Criminologists would differ. The complaint in Ireland is about disproportionately severe sentencing of female perpetrators compared to male. So, yiu quote 40% needs to be supported by citation.
Is it your case that Waters was punished more severely fior his optional prison period of 2 hors compared to a male comparator?
Yes, I agree that you are like a fly to sh*t, not exactly a civil term but I will use it.
500 young fellas kill themselves. I would have thought that the real figure is higher. I suspect that the figure would be vastly higher were it not for the sympathy, support, communication skills of many female therapists, clinicians, social workers and teachers.
Thank you for permitting us to be humorous. I greatly appreciate that.
1. ” In using the term “misandry” I was quoting Waters himself”. So what’s your point Jane? He also uses terms like cat, fish, feminism, Catholicism, suicide, men,……..What’s your point?
2: “And what, pray, does a privileged middle-aged man refusing to pay a justly-earned parking fine have to do with the tragedy of young Irish men committing suicide?” There you go Jane. Figure out the parallels between prison and suicide and we can discuss this further.
Optional or voluntary imprisonment based on a misguided sense of misdirected principle will not lead to suicideal ideation or action.
John Waters is a bit obsessional about his perception of misandry in Irish society. He has a profound and over eager sense of grievance.
Going to prison over non payment of a legally valid and modest fine, compared to Mr Water’s income, seems self indulgent at best and silly.
John Waters invites derision and we should respond generously to his invitation.
One could broaden out this discussion to address the place of men in Irish society but ultimately foolishness is foolishness and is gender neutral despite John Waters attempt to imbue every social issue with a gender dimension in which women prevail at the expense of men.
John Waters needs to get his sh*t together, I think, and desist from his grandiose gestures.
I now see John as a jailbird. He has earned his stripes or is that his dots or arrows?
The power of prayer and divine devotion shall redeem John and restore him to the path of righteousness. He has lived too long amongst the heathen and the unholy.
First up Peter I said western world. Not Ireland – as you know such figures don’t exist. O fcourse in Ireland we know very little when it comes to breaches in the family law courts as stats are not kept.
Don’t make me dig out my Anthony Giddens 1st or 2nd edition 1995 sociology book there Peter. That’ll really kill my spirit!
“500 young fellas kill themselves. I would have thought that the real figure is higher. I suspect that the figure would be vastly higher were it not for the sympathy, support, communication skills of many female therapists, clinicians, social workers and teachers”
It would be vastly less if people like you got out of the way Peter. Lt me give you an example. I’ve been saying for year that boys and men have been marginalised in the media and wider society. But there are 2 problems. But let me give you a recent example.
The marginalisation of boys in the media is a big problem Peter.
It’s online media coverage of leaving cert results. It may be of interest to you for an article. These are from this years leaving cert results day.
Journal.ie’s coverage 18 pictures. 16 of girls only, 2 of boys and even then they are mixed photo’s of boys and girls. 1 of the only 2 photo’s of boys is of black boys. http://www.thejournal.ie/leaving-cert-in-pictures-…;
So it seems national media is unaware that boys too sit exams. But, even when it does notice it uses the opportunity to tick the “ethnic or minority box” at that juncture. And you’ll also find that in the handful of photo’s of boys that do appear, even then at times, the girls are central in the photo’s and the boys are on either side of her/them.
TV3′s news coverage of the day in question was marginally more balanced. But not balanced enough by a long shot. It was of a similar vein to the above coverage.
So it’s seems the marginalisation of boys and men is now so embedded it goes unnoticed and all major media outlets partake. I’ve been following the exclusion of boys on leaving cert results day for nearly 20 years {and a lot of other areas too}. I can say with certainty the above scenario in the links I’ve given have been repeated year on year for nearly 15 years now.
If the links don’t appear let me know. But Jane and Peter – get out of the way please.
Peter/Jane. I’ve been trying for nearly a half hour to respond to you – but it won’t post no matter what I do. It’s along post, but it won’t post. But Peter, I’m the guy that posted in the last Mickey mouse argument you were trying to have about alcoholism and I posted a reference to Professor George E. Vaillant of Harvard on a book called the natural history of alcoholism revisited. You, sir, are full of shite.
I’m getting the knack of this. It seems I’ve got a short word count tonight Peter. But, you know nothing addiction, nothing about misandry, nothing about the economy either judging on your posts. Nothing. But I have been trying to respond to you with research in between my screen melting from your arrogance – end of word count.
Niall, your further comments (which I only read this morning via email from the Journal) seem to have been deleted.
What a crying shame. I particularly enjoyed the contrast of you asking us to be civil, then telling Peter that he is “full of shite”. Thanks for that, I enjoyed the laugh :)
Niall, do you recognise the irony in your posting comments asking others to be civil, to tone down their language when you engage in pure invective, adopt a highly adversarial approach are are incapable of maintaining a logical stream of argument, not just in response to me, but in response to others.
You appear to share John Waters sense of grievance over imagined misandry.
Yes, it is true. My arrogance has put a hex on your posting comments.
By the way, I love the way that you try to tie in unrelated issues and seek to draw parallels but when challenged are unable to explain what connections there are. I look forward to reading whatever further irrelevancies you can conjure up. It’s a pity that your Comments did not fully post. I will concede you this. They have great entertainment value.
OK Peter I concede I was tetchy last night and shouldn’t have said you were full of shite. I’d spent a long time trying to post a response and it would disappear into the ether.
“You appear to share John Waters sense of grievance over imagined misandry”
No, I share his views on unmarried fathers, the marginalisation of men and boys in the media, suicide, the media itself, the family courts, battered men and others. And though I don’t share his views on most other topics, he’s the only that takes up these issues in national media. These are real issues Peter, and riddled with misandry in themselves often.
You seem to think misandry doesn’t exist and is a figment of his imagination?
Links above on disparity in sentencing, conviction, and incarceration rates between the genders. Again I’ve been trying to post a more comprehensive response but it’s not happening.
“One could broaden out this discussion to address the place of men in Irish society but ultimately foolishness is foolishness and is gender neutral despite John Waters attempt to imbue every social issue with a gender dimension in which women prevail at the expense of men”
Where does he claim this had anything to do with gender?
“500 young fellas kill themselves. I would have thought that the real figure is higher. I suspect that the figure would be vastly higher were it not for the sympathy, support, communication skills of many female therapists, clinicians, social workers and teachers”
Or would it be lower if they weren’t marginalised in the first place Peter? A marginalisation that Water’s refers to regularly.
You should of read the ones that wouldn’t post! I do apologise for lashing out a bit. I’d spent hours trying to respond and it wouldn’t post. Was annoyed.
Yes Jason, and then use that very same household tax and charges to pay for ‘local services’ like the warden that gave Water’ the ticket in the first place. Round and round we go.
Anyone else constantly getting a “logged in as undefined” message on the site today and having to post the same thing 3 or 4 times before it appears? Driving me insane.
I admire the ‘principle’ of going to prison for a principle. But 2 hours is NOT going to prison.
I doubt any *Ordinary Person* would only ‘serve’ 2 hours for a similar offence …
Owen Keegan is the man to blame for ruining Dun Laoghaire ! !
Take a bow Owen !
Time they promoted you now out of Dun Laoghaire Rathdown County council !
Shops and restaurants closing – due to people avoiding Dun Laoghaire like the plague !
Wake up and realise it ! !
Thank you John Waters for highlighting this issue in an unfortunate, but necessarily, dramatic way.
I have long stopped travelling to Dun Laoghaire because of the reasons you have highlighted. It is a sad juncture to arrive at, but the reality at this stage is that civil disobedience is the only way to get Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown County Council to change their totally self-destructive parking and traffic light regime (there are far too many unnecessary traffic lights in Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown also). Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown (and the politicians in control of it) are obviously unconcerned by the destruction of business and social interaction in Dun Laoghaire, making civil disobedience the only solution left.
arranged by his solictor!? How much did that cost? It’s a waste of Garda time, all fines should be attached to pps so it’s unavoidable and cheap to collect. Why would anyone pay a fine when it’s cleared by 2 hours in a room (not a prison cell!)
Well the people in DLR can rejoice, Eoin Keegan (self professed car hater) is back in charge of the traffic in Dublin, with more power. 10 years from now, beetween the canals will be a car fee zone . The City will die and Mr Keegan will ride off into the sunset with a nice pension
John Waters in prison boring our prisoners to death could have been looked on as cruel and unusual punishment and got us a large fine from Europe!
Wise decision to let him escape!!
He threatened the DLR County Council with a letter to the pope requesting Eternal Damnation for the lot of them if they didn’t release him and cancel his fine.
Saint John Waters may have selected the wrong issue over which to make himself a martyr.
The recession and Dundrum shopping centre are the obvious explanations for the collapse of some areas of the retail trade in DunLaoghaire but parking costs and parking fines pander better to those who prefer imagined grievance to real grievance.
I look at the various issues of real social concern over which Waters is silent and then I look at the issues which he rants about in the Irish Times and in the Mail.
I have to say that poor John has “issues” and he needs to develop some self awareness. Yes, he is a middle class, middle Ireland and religious icon to some, he valiantly defends the Vatican but he needs to get in touch with real social, economic and political issues instead of his imaginary crusades and tirades.
There has been no mention of the cost to the exchequer regarding the Council’s legal fees in bringing the case to court, I’m sure it cost a lot more than fine.
If I have to pay a fine, why can’t he too? Just get on with it. We all have to pay it. So he took a stand but what actually did it gain for us? Nothing. Just media attention for himself. No offence or anything- I just don’t think it’s news worthy.
Our town centres are not dying because of parking charges. They are dying because people are too lazy to get up off their arse and use a train or bus, or god forbid walk or cycle to the town centres. Dutch and Flemish town centres probably have the most restrictive parking policies in Europe, they are far from dead though, on the contrary, they’re packed with tourists and locals enjoying shopping and socialising in a safe, fume free environment.
Parking in Dun Laoghaire really is a disgrace. I work in the area and cheapest parking is €7 per day. There is no leeway at all. There are two separate companies hiring parking wardens who are always on the prowl and clampers also. I constantly see them actually hanging around literally waiting to fine/clamp people as soon as their time is up. It such a pity as Dun Laoghaire used to be such a pretty and picturesque place, now every second shop/business is closed and it’s really starting to look run down. Was great during to the summer on the hot days seeing the crowds out and around the seafront, but it doesn’t last. Soon there will be nothing left in Dun Laoghaire other than the pier, port and monstrosity of a library they are building!! Also…Bring back the parking angels…they were so nice!!
Hi committed a crime and deliberately didn’t pay the consequences with ample opportunity. Of course he ought to have a criminal record now. And the disgusting Eurovision entry can’t count towards that.
Good ole publicity seeking John Waters.He’d try anything to seek attention.The laws are there John lad, you were given the option to pay your fine n you didn’t all in the name of publicity.CLOWN !
Typical justice system here they waste time sending people to jail for not paying a little fine and the real criminals will get “suspended sentences” probably for stealing cars
Well done sir. You made a stand. If the authorities want people to come into town centers they need to have free parking spaces where the shops are. Again I say well done sir.
Why has the journal been reposting articles and claiming they have been ‘updated’? I read this story when they first published it, it’s identical to this version!
How many readers are old enough to remember when parking charges were introduced? At that time we were told it was not a money making exercise but a way of ensuring no one car would take up a parking space all day thereby preventing another motorist from being able to use the space to do their business. That seems fair enough except that if you want to park all day usually near a DART or LUAS station you can hog that space all day once you pay from around €3 to €10. That might seem OK if you are using the DART or LUAS but you don’t have to. So it is just a money making exercise after all. Some years ago Dun Laoghaire scrapped their “scratch & display” parking tickets and had no charge, however there were still some wardens to police the parking regulations. It worked out OK. Then they got greedy.
With all the closed shops there now and the large number of unemployed people this produced, surely the income from the parking charges is far less then the loss of commercial Rates and the spending power of shoppers who now shop in other places where there is no parking charge.
That’s not the point Shanti. Somehow it’s all got to do with Christy moore ballads {in actuality it’s a Scottish melody}, wrong biblical references, misandry, and quaint language and no points. white knight syndrome, yet Water’s, though clearly a common criminal and escapee has many times over the years in a single sentence dismissed with a wave of the hand….end of word count…..
Anyway – I’m out of here. Went from one tech disaster like the IT to this. Is there any tech stable Irish news site?
This Shanti is my 7th time trying to respond to your post. All posts keep disappearing. That’s the problem for the journal….it doesn’t have brand loyalty in the same way other news orgs do. Come on folks. Day 2 now now.
In most places in Dublin now there is no excuse for anyone to overstay their time in a metered zone thanks to the expansion of electronic parking tags, where you can top up or add more time to the meter through your mobile.
Galway shoppers and businesses are suffering the same fate. We set up a Facebook page to provide information for our customers. See our Facebook page- Galway City parking information from Griffins Bakery
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