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Column Here’s what you REALLY need to know before emigrating…
Pack a hood, forget the hairdryer and bring more money than you think – recent emigrant Claire O’Keeffe on what anyone following in her footsteps should know.
BEFORE I LEFT Ireland to work in Toronto, Canada last November, many wise words of advice were given to me from all the treasured people in my life.
“Don’t marry any foreigners Claire” and “Just grab the experience and then come home” and “Don’t eat yellow snow” and “Take every opportunity and run with it”.
All these kind words and many more, were comforting and great for calming those erratic nerves before embarking on a new and unfamiliar phase of life – but I wish someone told me to bring a coat with a hood.
There are so many fresh and interesting adventures to discover as an emigrant, and there are so many ways to prepare for them before leaving the homeland, so, with a little help from some Irish people working abroad, brace yourself for some necessary and practical advice.
When you arrive, you will be exhausted.
You will be absorbing an entire new way of life in warp-speed time-frame and it is nearly essential to accustom yourself with your country of destination as much as possible before you leave Ireland.
With technology, this is easily done. Use online converters to understand the specific currency and orientate yourself with programs like Google Maps and Street view. It’s also useful to keep in mind that many properties for rent in the US and Canada come unfurnished, so know where to find good furniture and deals.
Natasha Looney (27), “a proud Kerry gal, from Listowel” and now living in Toronto, Canada suggests, “Do your research, and make Google Maps and Craigslist your friend.”
‘Bring more money than you think you’ll need’
Do you know anyone who is already living in the place you intend to settle? Talk to them about the area, the lifestyle and their interpretation of that country’s people. If you don’t know someone, have a look at country-specific internet discussion forums on Facebook, boards.ie or IrishAlien.com and post any questions you may have there.
Research the best-suited accommodation and location for you. Most importantly, research and book the hostel that you’ll be staying in for the first few days or weeks, and make sure it that allows for a low budget, exploration of the area and friend-making.
Julian Fogarty (26) from Swords, Dublin and living in Sylvan, Alberta in Canada says, “Research what job opportunities are available in your field and where. Don’t head out to the oil sands in Alberta if you’re an accountant and the same if you want to be a roughneck on the rigs. Don’t just blindly head to a city and say ‘I’ll take it from there’.”
You will experience the effects of living in a different environment.
The water in your country of destination may be very hard or very soft and harsh on Celtic hair.
To avoid a brittle frizz-mop bring a hair masque and moisturising hair products with you – because cosmetics are an expense you can do without after the move.
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The air could be quite dry too and your skin will either become oily or flaky, so make sure to take a good moisturiser with you.
Also, pack your good clothes and sturdy underpants. At the beginning, it’s important to look the part while trying to find the right job and investing in new clothes is not ideal for a rarely-credited bank account.
Or as emigrant, Lorna Bertles (27) from Cobh Co Cork, advises, “Bring more money than you think you need [to] bring.”
The electrical current is weaker in many countries than it is at home so bringing Irish-bought items like a laptop, hair-dryer or hair-straightening iron will test your patience.
They will have to be constantly plugged in and not as powerful as they would be in Ireland.
Either buy your electrical items in your chosen country, or invest in a current converter.
Upon your arrival, watch the locals and see what they do. Copy them and you can’t go wrong – and when in doubt, follow the crowd.
‘You won’t be as exotic as you think’
You won’t be as exotic as you think. As you have been reading in much of the media, Irish people are emigrating a mile a minute to Australia, Canada, America and England. You will hear an Irish accent on every block and in every industry so order to find the appropriate employment in your field, you must distinguish yourself from the rest.
Emigrant Terri Rattigan (32) from Ballivor, Co Meath recommends, “Network network network . It’s not what you know it’s who you know.”
The charm and the accent will only get you so far so be willing to step out of your comfort zone and socialise with people you would like to work with, who are within the industry you would like to work.
If you are travelling to a country that has distinct seasons, it helps to arrive at a season when it’s possible to comfortably go outside.
But if you do arrive during extreme conditions, do purchase the relevant survival-items – a coat, neck-warmers, ski-masks, long-johns, snow boots or sun cream, mosquito nets and repellant and breathable clothing – in that country because the people who have long-endured those conditions know how to best tolerate them.
Cathy Murphy is the director of the newly launched Irish Canadian Immigration Centre in Toronto.
“Have a plan,” she advises.
“Know your long-term plan and have an emigration strategy that goes beyond where you live and where you work.”
Meanwhile Ger Gilmore (28) offers advice that someone offered him before he left his native Dromcollogher, Co Limerick over two years ago. He says, “Keep an open mind and try everything once.”
Claire O’Keeffe is working in Toronto, Canada. She writes a blog at Cocklenuggets.
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Maybe if asylum seekers told the truth , didn’t rip up identity records and passports and had one appeal then go if not sucessful. Respect goes both ways…..
It is physically impossible to board an aircraft in 2014 without proper documentation – ie a Passport and a visa for your destination, the airlines can be fined thousands for breaking these rules. Anyone who arrives and claims to have no documents should be imprisoned until their can be verified.
Where do you think they should go to, some are fleeing from failed states, some are fleeing from sexually abuse. If you have ever heard their stories, you might change your mind
Oh yeah, maybe you’re right David – so the scenario is they’re fleeing persecution and their lives are in imminent danger so the first thing they do is hop onto skyscanner – “Hmmmm, whats the weather like in Ireland? We can fly there via London… ” I can picture the travel agents window in Lagos “Looking to flee persecution? Fly to Ireland for only 100000 Naira, all inclusive”
Surely anyone in genuine fear of their life would flee to the first safe place, gotta laugh at the left wing loonies.
@Pointius. The sad reality is that we’ve learned nothing from the mistakes we’ve made in the past. The left wing Army championed Pamela Izebheaki as the Poster figure for their campaign ” Let them stay” , she even got honoured in a civic ceremony in Sligo before an undercover investigation proved her whole story as a sham. She like most Nigerians who come here, came from very wealthy lives in Nigeria, she lived quite wealthy in a large house with servants (I wonder would any of those servants have the opportunity to flee ‘persecution’ )
She ended up costing the Irish Taxpayer close to 1million euro in legal fees. The Irish people voted overwhelmingly in favour in the 2004 referendum to shut down the loophole economic migrants were using to plant themselves in our country, it passed with 80% in favour which would tell you that 80% of Irish people are opposed to our country been abused by unchecked Immigration but why then have every successive government since then ignored this? Its never spoken about in the Dail?
What mandate did Alan shatter have to grant those who achieved residency under this loophole citizenship even though the passport questioned the authenticity of their documents? Another sham Politician, should be tried for treason!
Pontius you have taught me something important…
I saw a big long piece from you and red thumbed it as I usually disagree with nearly all of what you comment here…..
I was wrong for pre-judging as I agree with the above when I read it
@Pontius. Yes you are true, children are innocent in all of this. But these people have been very sucessful in using children as pawns in order to achieve residency and we cannot allow that to continue, I agree that repatriation should happen before the children are settled, but also the sad reality is that they do not belong here. There are a billion poor children around the world but unfortunately we cannot all offer them a place in our education system, we have to find a balance between charity and self preservation of our scare resources and the needs of our own people.
@Pontius. In my view their application should be processed before they even set foot on this island, similar to what the Australians do, its important we separate the needy from the charlatans
@Niamh you hit the nail on the head. What about the Irish taxpayers being treated fairly. We are the ones footing the bill for all of this. Should asylum seekers be put up in a 5 star hotel while they lie their way through the system with appeal after appeal?
Pontius, not withstanding endemic fraud in the asylum process. you are correct when it comes to long-stay children in Ireland. Sending them back would be cruel and in many cases would seriously endanger their health. We are going to have to grasp this nettle.
As a 2nd generation immigrant, it angers me to see these so-called ‘asylum seekers’ lying about their credentials to get into this country so they can live off the dole provided by taxpayers.When my father came to this country, he knew he had to work his a** off to make a decent living and so he did.Our government is too nice to people that will take advantage of the broken system and use it for their own gains.Instead of adhering to political correctness, why don’t we do something that will actually benefit us?
agh Gillian you are not supposed to tell the truth in regard to asylum seekers….do you not know that they are billions of them, that they caused the recession
@Barney. Whats wrong is it is inaccurate. They might not receive much cash but they receive bed, board, food, clothes, education, medical needs, and allowances for hairstyling etc. Do you think all that is paid for out of €19 a week??
Gillian should have said that they don’t receive Jobs Seekers Allowance and that they are not allowed to work (but a lot of them actually do). That would have been accurate and probably wouldn’t have received so many red thumbs. “The dole” is just a commonly used term to describe social welfare benefits and asylum seekers receive plenty of SW benefits. They just don’t receive it all in cash. What about medical costs, food, heating, education costs (for children) etc. I don’t like Direct Provision, it’s yet another money making scam funded by the tax payer but there is no viable alternative. The only humane thing to do is speed up the application process. DP would be fine if it wasn’t being abused by the people availing of it. Accept the decision the authorities make and you’ll be out of DP in no time.
You’re right Gillian, asylum seekers do not get the dole. But I suspect Abdul was referring to those granted leave to remain and refugee status who are disproportionately on the dole. Most people do not use the terms “asylum seeker” and “refugee” correctly. A refugee as you clearly know is someone whose application for asylum has been successful. A large cohort of these are on the dole or receiving social protection. Many of them have also received citizenship despite being unable to support themselves. Once again, our failure as a society to have a honest conversation about matter such as citizenship is typical and then we clap ourselves on the back for our “tolerance” when in reality we are in denial. This will come back to haunt us. For the record I have little problem with inward and outward migration. Ireland is a much more tolerant country than heretofore. Asylum seekers are but a small portion of the inward migration so we need to maintain a degree of perspective and be pragmatic. However, allowing people to become citizens who cannot speak our language, who have little prospect of ever supporting themselves or who have convictions recorded against them needs to be very carefully considered and debated. And we most also bear in mind the “right” to family reunification on the part of refugees and those made Irish citizens. There is a complete absence of reasoned public debate on this issue and a reluctance. This is a serious mistake.
Maybe if they stayed at home and got a job they be better off ….why should our own be left on the streets in cardboard boxes when someone from thousands of miles away get a nice little house with it all decked out for them…..and I am speaking from first hand experience …..
Is this Committee made up of genuine people giving their time to help others ?
OR another cozy quango that will sugar coat everything and string it out for what they can milk it for ? We will see..
another official ireland w@#kfest,retired judge,labour luvvie,246 immigration industry quangos and the lawyers that buzz around them like flies on s@#t,trade union beardie and the obligatory civil service clockwatcher,killing time waiting to collect his pension!you couldnt make it up.
I notice there is nobody on the committee from alliance of tax-payers who don’t like getting scammed by third-world economic migrants who want to hop aboard the gravy train driven by an assortment of rights quangos and very wealthy immigration lawyers.
Now that you mention it , who’s funding all these quangos. I know Atlantic Philanthropies are funding ICI, what do they seek to gain by supporting more relaxed immigration laws in Ireland?
John Clancy, this committee was set up by politicians and not civil servants. The only Trade Union rep is Dan Murphy who is regarded as a serious heavyweight an who is very pragmatic. The civil service clock killers are probably the few who may try to bring some sanity to the proceedings as they deal with asylum reality every day. The consequences of liberalising the direct provision system will be considerable. Firstly, if asylum seekers are put on full social protection then this will immediately double the cost. Secondly, if they are allowed to work this will compete with other low paid legal migrants (e.g. from other EU countries) and Irish citizens. Thirdly, if they are allowed full access to third level education this carries a considerable bill for the taxpayer in an already underfunded and under-resourced sector in key areas. Finally, it will act as an asylum magnet as asylum seekers do shop around the EU. Already this year asylum applications are rising in Ireland for the first time in years. We need to get real, reform and streamline the existing application system and stop letting interest groups dictate our policies as a nation.
Here’s an improvement suggestion – Why not make the system more effective and affordable for the Irish taxpayer. More effective at ensuring genuine refugees can get asylum and more becoming more efficient at deporting failed asylum seekers, deportation flights have gone down since this Fine Gael/Labour government took power.
Why are we as a bankrupt state continuing to poor billions into maintains these economic migrants playing refugees indefinitely and then at the behest of their numerous Quangos have the audacity to call the Irish people their oppressors and comparing their conditions to those of the institutions of the past.
Its time Ireland took a strong stance on this issue, the left have created these mess and its time for a new strategy to deal with it effectively once and for all. This will be a massive issue for the next election
It is almost impossible for us to have “genuine refugees” as there are no direct flights to Ireland from the countries these people come from. The system needs to be completely over hauled and sorted out!
The best thing they could do is actually make decisions on asylum applications within a reasonable time period – 3 to 6 months instead of several years.
One case all family members if unsuccessful, one appeal for the family, if unsuccessful all deported to flight of origin. I also think that if we do accept asylum seekers they should be made sign a contract that they will spend 4 years here, and after that it will be reviewed on a yearly basis. If the country of origins circumstances improve they will be sent back. Also it should be made clear in this contract that if they have children with other asylum seekers or a non Irish citizen while asylum seekers here the children wont be recognized citizens of the state. I am all for immigration but only if a visa has been applied for and the correct channels have been perused via an embassy and citizenship should be obtainable after contributing to the tax base for at least 5/6 years. That is my take on it.
Jeepers, ok and what makes you think that Ireland’s such a great place to be anyway. I cant believe how conservative and right wing people can be. I’ve an idea, how about young white men in their twentys aren’t allowed a wage over 200 Euro a week and if they want more are to be punished by having to sweep the streets for free. They are only allowed to wear knickerbockers and must always address their elders as sir. If you don’t like it you must leave the country and never come back. Now of course I’m right in what I say and everyone else are left wing freeloaders to be shot on sight. O and by the way cead mile failte.
Nobody mentioned shooting no need to be over dramatic people have mentioned deportation if cases have been found to be dodgy.If they are genuine refugees from actual war torn areas fine stay as long as you need and if you enter the army reserve or the army for over 5/6 years as a asylum seeker then you become eligible for migrant status or citizenship.
I think that the age of consent should be raised to thirty and alcohol should be banned, woman shouldn’t be allowed to vote and anyone that dosent like it can leave the country because what’s needed here is a totally right wing fashist state. A bit like Croatia under the Nazis.
Gays are bad. Also lesbians. Contraception should be banned and also rock music. A one party state is best preferably right wing Catholic dominated by gaa members in grey suits and old. Put orphans in houses down the country and if their mothers are out of wedlock send them to Australia and don’t tell them where they are, boycott them and only allow them work in laundrys or as secretary’s, if they get married they have to give up their job and raise kids.
Yes I agree with you. Lets give people fleeing persecution a horrible time here. Better still lets make them join the army and learn about more ways to kill people. After all they aren’t like us, are they, they’re different. They don’t belong here. They breed like rabbits. And get everything for free. I heard about a family that got a house and a car for free and don’t ever have to work. I’m sure you’ll agree that we have enough of our own problems without these spongers coming over. If people in trouble think we’re going to help them well then we’ll teach them a real Irish welcome, if you know what I mean.
Your dead right. Gosh if an asylum centre opened up here in malahide if be shocked. I heard there’s a needle exchange opening up your way along with the asylum centre that’s all ready there. How do you cope.
where did i say a horrible time? I said I have no problem with them if they are genuine asylum seekers, if they are people who want to immigrate fine just go through the correct channels via a embassy. Notice how i didn’t say force into the army i said if you enter the army meaning you have a choice. To be quite blunt no they don’t belong here traditionally when one seeks asylum it is in a neighboring country not a country over 3000 miles away. Who said everything for free? I just think there are Irish people who need to be seen to first that’s all. We do help. We provide aid to them. They get an Irish welcome we take them in if they are genuine if you know what i mean.
One appeal only no multiple appeals under different family names etc,This would speed up the process.
Also it is nearly impossible to board an international flight without a passport/ID.
I think the areas that have been swamped with the passport losers/ got off the plane undocumented, will be wanting the lot to be deported. Live in those areas then u will change ur open borders pc liberal minds.
Your dead right. All these dogooders live up in foxrock.what would that know about foreigners. Try living next to a family of Romanians or Nigerians before they start preaching.
Such is the welfare system in Ireland.
We already spend billions on people who have little use to society, drug addicts, people with hundreds of convictions, the life time unemployed.
They didn’t even have to get on a plane! Just use their ‘free’ bus pass the 27 from darndale or jobstown.
The do gooders will always be around to oversee the wasting of tax payers money.
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. How the PC pinkos misuse their God given ‘intelligence’ is beyond me. Blatant dishonesty is to be rewarded. The productive can get creamed by the worthless unproductive. I wonder should I contact Aodhán d Sleeveen as he got elected even though he was not exactly forthcoming with the TRUTH……….Wisha.
Another example here in this tread of DR Talbot and Eire calling furthering their own agenda which is no immigration at least no non-white non-christain immigration…by using legitimate questions in regard to the processing of asylum claims
If y’all are so against asylum seekers why not pack your stuff and go live in DP. With the earning of 19.10 a week and let’s see how much little you can do with with such amount and what not!….Remember most Irish pple are party animals who can not sit in their own houses on daily basis not to mention weekends, Oh and if your a heavy smoker I can see what good 19.10 can do for you. If they keep deporting ppl how would they know the genuine asylum seekers? Most of u are just typing without thinking and complaining have u ever sat down to reason that most if not all asylum seekers that have been granted residency are no way a burden to the country? Have you have reasoned that these pple work their butts of in order to contribute to the wealth and tax of this nation? The more pple u have in a country, the more jobs are being created and that’s how a country grows!!. Together we can make it and make this country a great nation whether black or white as long as we are given chance to prove our worth.
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