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GREEN PARTY LEADER Roderic O’Gorman said a party TD made a ‘legitimate’ objection to over 300 houses near his home, as the plans were in “breach” of the local area layout.
The Irish Independent first reported that Green TD and candidate for Dublin-South West Francis Noel Duffy objected to plans for 330 homes to be built next to his home with the primary grievance being that the development “overlooks our kitchen”.
Duffy, who is the Green Party’s housing spokesperson, also said that blueprints for the housing estate were not in line with the 2014 Ballycullen-Oldcourt Local Area Plan and 2016 Development Plan. A High Court ruling later overturned the permission.
Speaking to reporters this morning, at an event where Duffy was meant to be present, O’Gorman said the reason that people object to housing under local area and development plans was to insure that “good-quality housing” is delivered.
O’Gorman said: “In this situation, Francis identified that what was being proposed for this area didn’t meet the criteria of a local area plan. An Bord Pleanála’s inspector actually agreed with that particular point.
“So I think it is legitimate, where a proposal doesn’t meet the planning rules that have been put in an area, that somebody living in that area – and Francis does live in that area – can make a submission in to the local authority,” he added.
In Duffy’s submission, the government TD acknowledged that housing was going to be built on the site at some point – as the land had been zoned for residential property. He also disagreed with the height and density of the plans.
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Green Party leader Roderic O’Gorman says he believes party TD Noel Francis Duffy made a ‘legitimate’ objection to 330 homes in the Ballycullen-Oldcourt area. Duffy, who was meant to be present at today’s media briefing, is out canvassing this morning instead @thejournal_iepic.twitter.com/72lomeHUXn
The Green party leader added: “Look, the law doesn’t limit any member of the Oireachtas from engaging in the planning system.
“We just passed a new Planning Bill, and I suppose if there was a societal view that TDs or councilors shouldn’t engage, that could have been done there, but no one raised that issue.”
O’Gorman said he believed that it would remain the case that TDs, senators and councillors could object to the plans.
Duffy spent the morning canvassing in Dublin South-West, according to O’Gorman, and made the “political decision” to sit out the party’s media briefing on disability policy.
The Green’s leader said that his party would increase funding for disability care by 25% every year, if elected into government again, and listed his achievements as the minister responsible for the subject.
“I wish I’d had more time,” O’Gorman admitted and said that while the government were able to increase investment, there’s more work to do.
“I think it’s really important that we continue to have, in the next Dáil, a senior minister for disability,” he said, adding that disability advocacy groups have supported his role and have acknowledged the difference it has made.
He said that he would not like to see the portfolio be ‘slammed’ back into the remit of the Department of Health under the next government.
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@Toyo Ke: That’s reading an awful lot into people’s ambivalence about ONE song. It’s incredibly difficult for one song to sum up or capture the feelings of millions of people who happen to be born in the same country.
Anthems are handed down and no one gets to vote on them. Change isn’t a bad thing. I’m not too pushed either way but I’d understand and be totally fine with something new, once it wasn’t twee nonsense.
If we rate music and songs by their emotional impact and relatability to a large number of people you could argue that The Pogues wrote more than one national anthem! Of course not every single person will agree but they are highly unusual in the vast range of people they appeal to. Trad, punk, metal, pop, folk, rock and a whole host of other fan groups. A rare common denominator, middle of the venn diagram, mass appeal band!
If we want a New Ireland we need a new National Anthem.
People from the 26 counties could not give voice to God Save the King.
We should therefore not expect Unionists from the 6 counties to give voice to the current Irish national anthem when Ireland becomes a nation once again.
@David Phelan: Nationalist in Northern Ireland don’t want to sing God Save the King, never a mention about a new national anthem for Northern Ireland, really shows the hypocrisy. The north ethnicslly cleansed for fighting England’s invasion of the island.
@David Phelan: Nope. The people of this country are not looking to join Britain and give voice to god save the kind. Should the sad say come when the people of northern Ireland join the Republic of Ireland they have made their choice of voicing our national anthem. We live in a democracy and the majority decide the minority have to accept the majority vote
@Ger Whelan: That attitude has been the problem all along. Force the minority to accept the views of the majority. It was the attitude of Parnell. Redmond made a half-hearted attempt at inclusion but didn’t pursue it, and those that followed totally ignored the minority, despite it being a large minority. This is why a united and peaceful Ireland was never going to happen. Only Griffith made any serious attempt to build bridges. If Ireland is ever going to be united and peaceful, both sides need to move towards a solution. Amongst other things, this will mean ditching both national anthems.
@Rob Goodbody: That attitude? You mean democracy? I don’t want to build bridges. I don’t want a united Ireland. If the people in Northern Ireland want to leave the United kingdom then let them leave it and become an independent nation. Should the majority of people in my country ever vote to accept Northern Ireland joining this country I will accept the majority vote and accept the North joining Ireland even though I’d be in the minority. See that’s how it works. You don’t like that move to a non democratic country
@Ger Whelan: In order to get Ireland to be a 32 county entity there needs to be a referendum. Much better to persuade Unionists to vote to join the rest of the Island in building a successful future.
Also, please don’t twist my words and thought processes. I used the analogy of God Save the King to try to get people like you to think outside the box.
I grew up in the Irish Republic a few miles from the border with NI and am a proud Irish Republician in the true sense where Protestant, Catholic and Dissenter will happily coexist.
@Brian D’Arcy: Lots of people don’t sing National Anthems, in an Irish Times survey in 2022 just over half (54 per cent) of all Catholic respondents said they would vote in favour of Irish unity.
@Ger Whelan: if at some point in the future the majority votes for a united Ireland then it won’t be the the counties ‘joining’ the Republic, it’ll be a new country with new constitution, anthem, etc.
@Ger Whelan: If/when unionists decide to unite you can be certain that it will require a change of anthem. As said above, it wouldn’t be a case of them joining us but all of us in a new type of country. If/when this does become a real possibility, you and everyone else will likely have a vote. I’m sure many nationalists would concede an anthem for unity.
@ecrowley ecrowley: you realise the unionists will never vote for a united Ireland. It’ll be nationalist up in the north that will pass the vote and the unionists will have to be dragged kicking and screaming. We don’t need that trouble. Let them go independent
@David Phelan: no, only sustainable approach is majority support.
You simply can’t have over riding dominance by a minority. Ludicrous and won’t work.
Concessions and protections for unionists, yes. But not when it comes to identity
@David Phelan: The only time Ireland was a 32 county Irish nation was when it was part of what is the UK today . There has never been an independent 32 Irish nation .
@Ger Whelan: If the unionists have to be dragged kicking and screaming then it simply won’t happen because it wouldn’t work. IF they were to get on board, they would expect some concessions. All I’m saying is a change of anthem shouldn’t be a deal breaker.
@ecrowley ecrowley: they’ll never be on board. Look at how long they dragged out Brexit FFS. You are all living in a dream world if you think changing our national anthem is going to habe them running to us with open arms.
@Ger Whelan: There’s definitely some truth to what you’re saying. The only thing I’d say is that we might be looking at this through an old lens; the one we grew up with. There’s a big change in the youth in NI. There’s a not inconsiderable number who view the old divisions with an eye roll. They’re busy with all the stuff they have in common. Listen to the same music, party in the same places, work study and socialise together. I’m not saying this guarantees anything, but things could look quite different in the coming decades. If it was practical, beneficial and enough have moved past the indoctrination in certain quarters, you never know…
@Harry Paisley: speck for your self, a united Ireland, is something I would like, everyone just getting on and respect for each other view, can’t see why not, make arrangements for everyone on the island,
@SerotoninWars: old lens? How long ago was Brexit? As for a change in youth, you might be right there. But history has shown the youth don’t win votes, the older generations win them.
@Ger Whelan: The majority in the north voted against Brexit. The old guard are very much in place in some respects though, but even on that front things have cooled a lot except for the total headcases like the TUV. There’s a significant number who don’t vote along tribal/religious/nationalistic lines too. The youth will be tomorrow’s voters. If history has taught us anything it’s that seemingly intractable positions can change relatively quickly. I’m not suggesting it will happen imminently but I certainly wouldn’t write it off in the future. We live in a very different world now.
You say it would be a ‘sad day’. I don’t understand why. Time for a massive all-island all-Ireland party for me! It’s still horrible every time you see that chunk of the island cut off on the news and weather.
@David Phelan: David Phelan: We don’t want or need a “New Ireland”. Unification will mean a significant reduction of Unionists and an increase of Nationalists in NI. No pandering to Unionists. The unionists of the south had to like it or lump it. For over 100 years the majority had to Tolerate God Save The Queen – King to suit the RDS- Dublin Castle minority . Unionists up north quite happily tried to impose themselves with orange marches down roads that they don’t belong and with QSTQ/QSTK . Sod them ! There will be no pandering to a group that has barely ever being “a million strong” .
@Rob Goodbody: Peaceful ? Unionists would be wiped off the face of this earth within a year and less if they kicked off and tried to undermine the majority will. They’d do well to remember what happened to many of the southern Unionists between 1920-1923 . They will be absolutely no lost to our society. Even the English historically loathed them . They have many choices if they don’t like it. No pandering to this lot in light of how they ruled the island for over 120 years despite being a minority . Unification will mean a total surrender and end to Unionism. Most people don’t care enough for unification if it means pandering to them .
@Rob Goodbody: The UK doesn’t have a national anthem, it has a royal anthem. The same royal anthem that Luxembourg, Norway, old Prussia used. As far as I know, all the royal houses of Europe use a version of ‘God save the king’.
@David Phelan: Unionists will be utterly outnumbered in the north by that point . They will do what they are told or go the same way as southern unionists of the 1920s . They will be a loss to no one .
@David Phelan: You just don’t get it ! Unionists will never vote to leave the U.K. , no matter what . There’s no point convincing them . They refuse to take part in the All island council as per GFA ; they refuse to recognise the Irish language as per St Andrews ; They still burn our “fleg” ; They have no interest in building bridges with nationalists in the north , the Peace walls are still needed and they still don’t trust each other . While the GAA should pay more for the redevelopment of Casement Park , Unionists simply don’t want it reopened and even if it means they lose out in hosting a major sporting event . Breed them out . People in the south are in no rush for unification , our nationalists can move to Louth or Donegal or Monaghan if they are so in need to be part of our gang .
@ecrowley ecrowley: Utter rubbish ! They won’t vote to join . It will require a significant increase in the Nationalist – Republican population . There will be no pandering to a group that had never been more than a million . Ever occur to you why southern parties and groups have never really don’t anything to promote unification seriously ? Not a priority , certainly not if Unionists call the shots . Breed them out
@Jonn: You miss the central point that Irelands Call is clearly intended to include Northern & Non Irish rugby players and supporters, who should not be expected to sing a nationalist, militarist anthem, which propagates an historic resistance to imperialist subjection. That is past and irrelevant to 21st century Ireland.
Rugby is an all Ireland sport,and many others, along with GAA, equestrian/ horse racing, racing pigeons, dog shows, field, motor, indoor sports.
All of these continued despite constraints through the “troubles” and maintained a vital thread of civilised social interaction, through which an evolving unification process can be developed.
So get real, get in tune with where this State is at and where we want to get to.
@William Kelly: there are people who died for the liberation of this country that the anthem represents. True patriots and I’ll include those of the 1981 hunger strikes and those volunteers in the north on active service. It’s a militaristic song as you rightly claim & recognition of the struggle against imperialism. That continues today although not through military means thankfully but while I disagreed with the PIRA they continued that struggle against imperialism right up to the GFA. I do agree a compromise must be reached for unionists but getting rid of the anthem isn’t necessarily one of them. There isn’t too many patriots in Ireland. Let’s not forget the ones that existed.
@Mic JHintl: the “patriots” are the reason we don’t have a united Ireland. They have created division and helped hardline unionists. The sooner they are forgotten, the sooner we can move forward together
@reg morrisey: Strong disagree. Ireland’s Call is an enjoyably non-partisan anthem along with our own main one which allows those from Northern Ireland to join in and sing along with their Southern Irish brothers. Before it was introduced, those from Ulster who were Unionist were unable join in with the national anthem and this made us look divided in front of international opposition. It’s a catchy tune with some uplifting lyrics, there is no reason why it should be scrapped.
@Mic JHintl: I agree with a lot of what you said about the value of our national anthem from a rich historical point of view when it comes to our fight for independence in a heroic manner against the British Empire. However, I can’t agree with you that the 1981 Hunger Strikes were a mix of thugs, terrorists and common criminals. They were in no way “political prisoners” and people like Bobby Sands were cowards. No, petrol bombing up a furniture store, shooting at two police officers and severely wounding them and then trying to flee from the scene is not anything to be proud off and I they did not deserve to get to wear anything but the prison uniform. Patriots my ass, they were an insult to the real heroes of Irish independence.
@William Jennings: I too have issues with some of what the PIRA did but I’m sure I would be the same if I lived in the 1920s. There is no good or bad IRA. They were both the same and many former 1920 IRA members agreed with the Pira. I suggest you read about Bobby Sands and those members of the Pira & the torture they suffered in the Kesh. It’s truly horrendous. Sands also being a leader in the hunger strikes knowing he was going to die. It’s your personal opinion these were not patriots but I believe history will tell that story. Remember I don’t support the Pira or SF but have arrived at this conclusion after lots of reading on this matter. Your suggestion about our heroic fight against British imperialism must include the Pira. What exactly do you think the Pira were fighting?
@Fran Ken: no you mistake the origin of the problem. British imperialism created the division over a hundred years ago and maintained it with violence. You do know the civil rights movement in NI was beaten off the street and burned out of their homes by moderate unionists you forgot to mention. They won’t be forgotten. Ireland’s removal of British imperialism has always been violent and we will celebrate those members of PIRA in decades to come the same as we celebrate Terrance McSweeney Michael Collins Dan Breen and others. It’s inevitable.
@Harry Paisley: the shinner have really taken over whatever bit of a brain you have your now beginning to sound more like M Martin of ffg in all your posts &replys
As far as I’m aware our National Anthem was originally written in English,
Soldiers are we,
Whose lives are pledged to Ireland,
Some have come from a land beyond the wave,
Sworn to be free, no more our ancient sireland
Shall shelter the despot or the slave;
Tonight we man the Bearna Baoil
In Erin’s cause come woe or weal,
‘Mid cannon’s roar and rifle’s peal,
We’ll chant a soldier’s song.
No.. . Ireland has conceded way too much for nothing in return . The British occupy part of our country. The goons in government have bankrupted our country leaving us with one of the world’s highest debts . Let us not appease the west brit rugby fraternity with our National anthem. It’s something to be proud of
Jerry’s in the basement
Mixing up the medicine
Ian’s on the pavement
Thinking about the government
The man in the orange sash
Badge out, pizzed off
Says he’s got a bad cough
Wants to get it paid off…..
@Philip Slevin: so, you’re happy then that the Colonisers will have then achieved another step towards their aim of wiping out our native tongue? (And, yes, I’m fully aware of the irony of my writing that in your ‘preferred’ language.)
@GerH: Ireland was invaded and colonised by the Normans in 1169 and ruled by the Normans till 1541 . Irelands national language is English because that is the language we prefer to speak . Nobody has forced it upon us over the last one yrs .
Absolutely and it should mention climate change, Palestine and trans issues. And possibly close with the line, Ireland for everybody sung in multiple languages
@mickey mac:
I was thinking the same, we may as well have one in multiple languages now. A line in Ukrainian, a line in Arabic … God be with the days you’d go in a shop and hear English spoken.
Drop the militarist lyrics, keep the tune.
Long past the resistance culture that underpins the present anthem ,so open a competition to bring forward a theme that reflects a modern inclusive multiracial, multicreed,open and progressive society.
Even if some ideals are not widely achieved at this point!
@William Kelly:
No houses to buy,
Soup kitchens popping up everywhere,
Queens for prime minister,
And crooks up in the Dail,
They don’t know if their boys or girls,
Cats or dogs or anything,
The country is rich they say,
Homelessness at a record high,
But who cares cause the government are rich,
Another 100 years of fine gael and fianna fail,
We deserve the 5h1t£ we are taking!
@William Kelly: No way, West Brit! We were the first country to gain independence from the British Empire and our national anthem should absolutely reflect that. Ireland is 88% White, there is no reason why we should have a “multiracial” anthem. Some cultures are superior to others and I have no interest implementing the values of Sharia Law into our national anthem. Such an idea would only damage attempts to promote assimilation into our society. Therefore, we should have an Irish anthem because we are Ireland and not any other country. Have a bit of pride in your country you absolute plank and recognise the sacrifices that were made to enable you to spew the nonsense that you are currently doing in an open manner without feeling an ounce of shame.
Definitely needs a change and this time in English. From my experience, the majority of us don’t know what the song is about as we parrot our way through it.
@Patrice Ahern:
Did you ever consider learning the words and what it’s about ??
Also the majority of my friends would know it, maybe you should stop hanging around with dunces….
@Anthony Curran: That’s precisely the point of a national anthem! The point of it is to reflect the rich history of a country and offer a vision of patriotism, unity and pride, drawing on significant events, struggles and symbols that define the nation’s heritage. The lyrics and music are supposed evoke a sense of shared history and the aspirations of a people. That’s exactly what both of our anthems do and there’s no reason why they should be altered or scrapped.
This is just pure folly to be perfectly honest. We have two good national anthems which are catchy and have rich lyrical and musical content. One anthem celebrates our history and independence. The other is an olive branch to those who are up in Northern Ireland and it offers a unified vision which all players and fans can sing along to during rugby matches. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” is very apt for describing the idea that either one of our anthems needs to be altered or changed.
I imagine a national anthem born from the landscape itself, as timeless and majestic as the island we share. Like Mendelssohn’s Fingal’s Cave, its melody would echo the power of crashing waves, the stillness of misty valleys, and the resilience of windswept cliffs. It would transcend religion, politics, and division, speaking instead to our shared connection to the land that shapes us and will one day hold us in its embrace. This anthem would belong to everyone and no one, a hymn for humanity that extends beyond Ireland’s shores, offering unity and friendship to the world. Rooted in the beauty of our fleeting lives and the permanence of the earth, it would remind us of what connects us all—a celebration of the spirit of the island and the shared journey of humankind.
What about the Unionists in the North? They seem to think it’s a great idea to burn the flag of the Ireland? It drags and hurts me so much every time they burn our flag of the Republic of Ireland. They don’t burn the any other country’s flag, they should harm the Union Jack as London don’t give too flying f’s about the North if the people in the North of Ireland only saw it through the eyes of us
Would you have the gaul to ask America, Britland, or France the same thing!?
No.
You wouldn’t bloody dare.
So why ask Ireland / the Irish!?
Saudi Israelia* is not a formerly Colonized people or Nation subsequent to ‘The Fall of Empires’ – and the Dawn of Nations.
Even when & before some of it’s current lands were under the Ottomans – it never existed as an indigenous Nation in and of itself within that Colonial Empire.
It remains, itself, a Monarchic Expansionist Colonialist Power.
Arguably, it isn’t even a legitimate Nation, and never has been. Rather, it squats upon, pillages, oppresses, and extorts multiple legitimate, ethnically diverse, indigenous Nations and former smaller “Kingdoms”. It is, and always has been, a *Kingdom* since certain nefarious entities seized the smaller Nations.
It remains a violent and medievalist Monarchy, a seat of Monarchic Colonial Expansionist **imperialism** that continues to interfere in the affairs of other extra-territorial indigenous Nations (from Bahrain to the ancient lineage of both non-converted Jewry and theistically converted *Semite* Yemenites, in tandem with the interests of genetic legitimacy-seeking *white* dominant Russo-Zionist IsraHell), while simultaneously squatting on the Nations it has already extinguished from the minds and memories of the Arab League, and the whole of International Civil Society.
So why are you, in any way, shape, or form, comparing Ireland to, or drawing Irish parallels with, Saudi Israelia*!? o_O
Absolutely, has to be anyway if there is ever to be one jurisdiction on this island. We would be moving away from the extremist revolutionary start that we had. Usually revolutions are messy for a century or two.
One Ireland mean new flag, new system of government too. Probably federal. I just don’t think we’re ready for it.
Every century they should have a new one to reflect the mood of the people and its modernization, present one is boring, and basically saying get on with the game.
God yes please please ,its melogan ,didn’t Kavanagh say ” twas an aul comeallya written by Behans Granny” he wasn’t wrong( except for the Granny bit which I think he just threw in to vex Behan)
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With your acceptance, your precise location (within a radius of less than 500 metres) may be used in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Actively scan device characteristics for identification 27 partners can use this special feature
With your acceptance, certain characteristics specific to your device might be requested and used to distinguish it from other devices (such as the installed fonts or plugins, the resolution of your screen) in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Ensure security, prevent and detect fraud, and fix errors 92 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Your data can be used to monitor for and prevent unusual and possibly fraudulent activity (for example, regarding advertising, ad clicks by bots), and ensure systems and processes work properly and securely. It can also be used to correct any problems you, the publisher or the advertiser may encounter in the delivery of content and ads and in your interaction with them.
Deliver and present advertising and content 99 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Certain information (like an IP address or device capabilities) is used to ensure the technical compatibility of the content or advertising, and to facilitate the transmission of the content or ad to your device.
Match and combine data from other data sources 72 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Information about your activity on this service may be matched and combined with other information relating to you and originating from various sources (for instance your activity on a separate online service, your use of a loyalty card in-store, or your answers to a survey), in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Link different devices 53 partners can use this feature
Always Active
In support of the purposes explained in this notice, your device might be considered as likely linked to other devices that belong to you or your household (for instance because you are logged in to the same service on both your phone and your computer, or because you may use the same Internet connection on both devices).
Identify devices based on information transmitted automatically 88 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Your device might be distinguished from other devices based on information it automatically sends when accessing the Internet (for instance, the IP address of your Internet connection or the type of browser you are using) in support of the purposes exposed in this notice.
Save and communicate privacy choices 69 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
The choices you make regarding the purposes and entities listed in this notice are saved and made available to those entities in the form of digital signals (such as a string of characters). This is necessary in order to enable both this service and those entities to respect such choices.
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