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The ASTI president said the changes will 'pressurize the system and it's going to create major problems for students'.

Teachers to protest outside schools to seek delay in implementing Leaving Cert reforms

The unions are protesting a decision to “accelerate” Senior Cycle redevelopment plans.

LAST UPDATE | 19 Nov 2024

THOUSANDS OF TEACHERS have taken part in a protest outside schools this lunchtime to seek a delay in implementing the Senior Cycle redevelopment.

In 2022, Education Minister Norma Foley requested that the National Council for Curriculum and Assessment prepare a schedule of senior cycle subjects to be reviewed and redeveloped.

It was then announced in September of this year that two new subjects are being added to the Leaving Cert – Drama Film and Theatre Studies, and Climate Action and Sustainable Development.

These new subjects will be introduced into schools next year, for fifth year students starting the 2025/2026 school year. The subjects will initially be offered to 100 schools.

Members of the Association of Secondary Teachers Ireland (ASTI) and the Teachers’ Union of Ireland (TUI) are taking part in today’s protest.

The organisations said they are not calling for the postponement of these new pilot subjects, adding that this is “being supported with additional resources and allocation for those schools involved.

Rather, the unions are protesting a decision to “accelerate” Senior Cycle redevelopment plans. The ASTI said teachers are “gravely concerned that aspects of the plans pose a threat to education standards, fairness and quality”.

These changes will see new and revised subject specifications to incorporate non-exam based assessments which will be worth at least 40% of the available marks and will be externally assessed by the State Examinations Commission.

ASTI also say that a large proportion of the course is open to cheating and that the resources needed to implement the course are not present in every school, giving an unequal opportunity for students and staff. 

Teachers from ASTI and the second-level branch of TUI at St Kevin’s College in Ballygall, Co Dublin, teachers told The Journal today that example material and exams have yet to be shared with them. 

IMG_5215 Teachers from St Kevin's College in Dublin with Sinn Féin's Dessie Ellis and People Before Profit's Conor Reddy. Muiris O'Cearbhaill / The Journal Muiris O'Cearbhaill / The Journal / The Journal

ASTI shop steward Martin Monks said: “We work in a school where at the moment we have buckets and trays collecting water coming out of our roof because it is in desperate need of repair. 

“The minister expects up to introduce a totally new curriculum while she is failing to keep our roof over our heads.”

Monks said that the unions were in no way opposed to reforming the leaving certificate or the senior cycle but that teachers need better training and more time before the course. 

“We don’t even have as much as a sample paper or a sample exam to actually implement these things,” he said. 

People Before Profit Dublin North-West candidate Conor Reddy and leader Richard Boyd Barrett as well as Sinn Féin TD Dessie Ellis were in attendance. 

Reddy said that this issue reflects the treatment teachers have been facing in recent years by the outgoing government. 

“One of the big things that needs to be solved on the other side of this election is a fair deal for teachers,” he said. 

Reddy added: “St Kevin’s is a great school, a great community but they have a leaky roof and are struggling for resources. They have to put out the begging bowl, unfortunately, for voluntary contributions every year.

“For us (People Before Profit), we’d like to see much more State-funding […] so they’re not having to go above and beyond to give a decent education for people.”

IMG_5217 Sign opposing the accelerated rollout outside St Kevin's College in Dublin today. Muiris O'Cearbhaill / The Journal Muiris O'Cearbhaill / The Journal / The Journal

While the ASTI said it is not “opposed to the redevelopment” it has called for “sufficient resources to be provided to ensure a smooth and effective roll-out”.

It added that any changes must not be “rushed through” and be of “educational benefit to students and based on the professional views of practitioners tasked with delivery”.

Speaking on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland, ASTI President Donal Cremin said teachers want to “slow down the process” because the Department of Education “doesn’t have the resources at the moment to run things correctly and properly”.

“A rushed system can often be a failed system, and that’s what we’re afraid of, because it is a high stakes exam,” said Cremin.

Some €30 million of additional funding was provided in the budget for the continuation of curricular development and reforms and related teacher education.

But Cremin said this isn’t enough for the reforms and added that Ireland is the “lowest of the OECD countries” for investment in education.

“With the present economic climate, and the plenty of money that they have, they need to invest in second level education, they need to invest in our students for the future,” said Cremin.

He added that the reforms to the Senior Cycle are “too rushed” and “need to be pushed out by at least a year”.

Seven subjects are set to be introduced: Ancient Greek; Arabic; Business; Biology; Chemistry; Latin; and Physics. The second set of revised subjects will be introduced at the beginning of the 2026-27 school and includes English and Geography.

Three further tranches of subjects are then scheduled to undergo revision on an annual basis and the revised curriculum will come into schools in 2027, 2028, and 2029 respectively.

“It’s going to pressurize the system and it’s going to create major problems for students,” said Cremin. “Things were bad enough for the last number of years, but for the future, I think, slow down and move out by just one year.”

Includes reporting by Muiris Ó Cearbhaill at St Kevin’s College, Dublin.

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    Aug 9th 2023, 8:08 AM

    What ìďìòt thought that this would be OK.
    That is the most dreadful thing to happen, putting so many lives in danger. Heads should roll over this.

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    Mute Mick Duvanny
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    Aug 9th 2023, 4:41 PM

    @Playmisty4me: What heads? If you were my boss and against policy I published private company records, should you be fired?

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    Aug 9th 2023, 9:23 PM

    @Playmisty4me: but they won’t

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    Aug 9th 2023, 9:34 AM

    If I want to pay off a few quid off my credit card on-line, I have to go thro three or four processes, before I can do it, yet the PSNI data was easily transferred to anyone who wanted to download it. Unbelievable lack of basis common sense

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    Aug 9th 2023, 2:18 PM

    What a lawless state, the six counties! Liam Kelly, chairman of the Police Federation for Northern Ireland said “some (PSNI) might be working for the security services in MI5″
    The Covert Human Intelligence Sources (Criminal Conduct) Bill was introduced into parliament in September 2020, became law in the UK in 2021. This law provides MI5, in explicit terms, with the power, through its officers (those in MI5′s employ), to authorise its ‘agents’ to engage in conduct (including crimes at the very upper level of seriousness)that would normally constitute one criminal offence or another.
    We know from the De silva report that agents acting on information given to them by security services went on to murder Belfast solicitor, Pat Finucane and their crime was and is covered up by these “security” services. De Silva concluded – inter alia – that he was ‘left in significant doubt as to whether Patrick Finucane would have been murdered by the UDA in February 1989 had it not been for the different strands of involvement by elements of the State’
    These agencies are acting outside the law and, incredibly, are working alongside Irish agencies in many cases.
    It’s time to evaluate our cooperation with British security services and, just maybe, begin acting like a lawful republic

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    Aug 10th 2023, 10:08 AM

    @John John: Provo or not, it is illegal to murder someone. If the British state was involved, it is even worse.

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    Aug 9th 2023, 9:12 AM

    Storming needs to return to work and earn their pay. Northern Ireland have many issues that need to be addressed now not somewhere down the road

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    Aug 9th 2023, 9:13 AM

    @5PHcsqEN: my comment should say Stormont

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    Aug 9th 2023, 1:10 PM

    That’s a lot of sensitive data, open online for 3 hours. The online server will have logfiles indicating if any of the data was accessed or downloaded. The very least they’ll see is the number of times the active online page was accessed, I would expect that the webserver log will also give details of IP numbers. A little detective work required to estimate the possible extent of the damage, and estimate the risk properly.

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    Aug 9th 2023, 2:34 PM

    @Tom Hogarty: for sure , but also raises some bigger concerns for the levels of cyber security in the force / if one individual is able to access this level of data this should trigger all sorts of alarms for their internal processes / extra embarrassing that it’s the most sensitive data for the whole force including mi5 operatives / frankly unbelievable and exposes the risk that one crooked worker could be bribed to access all this valuable data in the first place / safe to assume this ain’t cyber security best practice by the police of all organisations / mind boggles

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    Aug 9th 2023, 2:43 PM

    @Dave Hammond: come on, the IT support guys would have had ample access to their dbms at anytime given what is now known

    Amateurs and a failed state. The hits just keep on coming

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    Aug 9th 2023, 4:32 PM

    Sad to think that both of the police forces on this island have become afraid of what the thugs & terrorists might do to them, while they (the thugs) have zero such concerns. Well done the civil liberties (without responsibilities) groups.

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    Aug 9th 2023, 10:02 AM

    No “four eye principle” ???
    Management level needs replacing.

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    Aug 9th 2023, 3:39 PM

    i hope no IRA cowards got any info

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    Aug 9th 2023, 4:09 PM

    @TomDuffy: Fortunately for you, you can hide behind your keyboard typing about ‘IRA côwârds’.

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    Aug 9th 2023, 3:38 PM

    Oh no. Anyway

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    Aug 9th 2023, 5:50 PM

    His majesty finest

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    Aug 9th 2023, 2:08 PM

    HI John john

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    Aug 9th 2023, 7:54 PM

    Wow, there’s a new strain of Covid and I couldn’t give a ŞΗϯҭ

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