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Ireland may have to wait for money even after bank debt deal

Finance minister Michael Noonan has said there was “absolute support” in Europe for the principle of a deal on Ireland’s debt.

Noonan speaking to reporters after yesterday's meeting
Noonan speaking to reporters after yesterday's meeting

IRELAND MAY BE left waiting some time for a reduction in its financial burden even after a possible deal on our bank debt, finance minister Michael Noonan has said.

He said delays to the ratification of the European Stability Mechanism (ESM) – the bailout fund from which any financial aid will come – will mean there is no money available in October.

However, Noonan insisted that a deal would still be worthwhile – saying it would reassure markets until funding was secured.

Eurozone finance ministers yesterday set October as a deadline for a renegotiation of Ireland’s bank debt.

Noonan said it was “hard to envisage” that the ESM would be operative by October. Speaking after a meeting of the EU’s Economic and Financial Affairs Council in Brussels yesterday, the Minister for Finance said:

What I would envisage is that [the bank debt] would be renegotiated, it would be announced – which would have a positive effect on the markets which is our primary concern – and then it would be implemented when the ESM was in a position to fund the recapitalisation.

The Dáil approved the ratification of the ESM last month, though it is still facing legal challenges. Other countries are yet to formally approve it.

Noonan also confirmed that the Government was hoping for a major reduction in Ireland’s debt when talks begin in September. “We’ll be ambitious in our ask,” he said.

There is “absolute support” among other European countries for the principle of a renegotiation, he added.

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Comments (29 Comments)

  • The principle of renegotiation being agreed is a long way from the renegotiation of the principle.

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    • Indeed!
      Also the link to the current legal challenges in this article are outdated -
      the Irish Government has pledged to halt the ratification of ‪the ESM‬ http://bit.ly/NlMv43 (IrishTimes )‬
      and the President of German constitutional court has said the final decision on constitutionality of ‪#ESM‬ could be made by the end of 2012 http://on.wsj.com/OVYeLe (Wall Street Journal) – so the ratification could be on hold in fact until December in Germany

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  • Talks only beginning in September? Is there something wrong with working through the summer on this? Maybe if we started the talks now it would reassure the all important markets we are serious about this process. But no it seems we cannot interrupt well paid functionaries holidays. Farce.

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  • PeeedOff 11/07/12 #

    Make the banks pay back every cent out of profits made for as long as it takes….Otherwise we the people are going to be paying it all back in taxes & charges for generations to come…!!!

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    • That’s an just not an intelligent posting. The funding provided to the Banks by the State was exchanged for shareholding and it is the invention of the Government to ensure the taxpayer gets a return. However a majority of Postings on this site are screaming daily for the Banks to write off Mortgage debt and increase the number of risky loans to risky businesses. Ye can’t have it both ways and still be PEED OFF.

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    • If it is the intention of the government to make sure the taxpayer gets a return mark, how come they are handing billions from those banks to unguaranteed unsecured bondholders instead of putting it into state coffers?

      Oh, yeah….confidence.

      Instead of trying to sound like a FG press release, try reading what you post to see does it hold up to scrutiny. It does not.

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  • How much more i wonder will the Irish people actually put up with ? These bast*** should be run out of Office….love to know what Mr. Noonan was doing in the Bilderberg meeting…..i am pretty sure he had a list in hand of all the things in this country he could sell off to the vultures….speak up Michael or forever shut your trap !!

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    • More spin and lies.
      The promisory notes could be written down without any funding from the ESM.
      There will never be sufficent funding in the ESM to cover all the claims being made from it.
      We’re being shafted here and our government are complicate in this.

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  • Will MIchael Noonan ever shit or get off the pot…….are you constipated Michael ?

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  • We re being made absolute fools of. FF sold us into slavery and Europe isnt bothered bout buying our freedom back. FG are as bad, we know why they were quiet on Mick Wallace position now too, they knew the sands were running out on James O Reilly. Every one of em worse than the next.

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  • I doubt if the bank deal will make a difference to the people who matter, ie the workers, bla bla bla…..

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  • bob 11/07/12 #

    whose that talking down the back? NOONAN! stop talking or I’ll put you out! your nearly as bad as your brother Bertie,smart arse who never shut up,ruining it for everyone.

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  • Ah well ah well agh, live horse and ul get grass, it’s very simple

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  • Look at the head of him

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  • Good riddance to FG and LAB after the next election. The next government will abolish property and water taxes.

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  • When looking at the above posters you would wonder why any Minister or Government would bother.
    What a totally selfish nasty and one sided bunch who wake every day to whinge criticise moan and complain. I would be surprised if a smile ever came to your faces as you have most likely grimaced from birth. Any embalmer would be unable to even sew one on your faces after death.

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    • So Mark your all right with talks about a €62 billion debt will only begin in September? Do you not think a bit more urgency should be shown?

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    • troll

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    • You’re right, Mark. This site is populated with petty-minded whingers and haters who see nothing but the worst in the work that the government or the EU or anyone else are doing to unpick the damage that FF did to this country.

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    • Desmond, instead of whinging about the whinging (oh the Irony) perhaps you would like to divulge to the moaners the ” the work that the government or the EU or anyone else are doing to unpick the damage that FF did to this country”

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    • Mark and Desmond are spot on – crowds of bleating sheep populate this forum, and indeed most others – here’s one for the nay sayers – nearly 4,000 jobs created since the start of the year !! Most of you would advocate that no good ever happens in this country, so how about that then ? Why not look upwards and forwards and not what has happened before – it is the future that matters, not the past !

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    • And how many jobs were lost declan. And how many people emigrated declan. And how many jobs could the government have created with the billion handed out last week to unguaranteed unsecured bondholders declan.

      What else you got?

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    • Optimism

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    • Good man. Make sure you get back to us when its accepted as legal tender so we can inform the people on the breadline.

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    • @Declan. Delusion is not a solution!

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    • Mark it is everyone’s right to complain , you are just another YES man , YES to our country being robbed, YES to massive loss of sovereignty, YES to plundering profitable state assets…..YES, YES, YES !! You would be very welcome in Brussels to be honest……..YES, will make you alot of money over there !!

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    • Fagan's 11/07/12 #

      If the Govt. and the EU will start to look at the reality that most of the Eurozone is in contraction or heading there, we fell 1.1% in first 3 months. That we have a debt liability twice that of Greece, and that an eventual solution will be a very large structured default. Ie spreading out repayments over a hundred years at a lower interest rate. That 700bn in the bailout funds isn’t even remotely going to be enough and no one believes otherwise.

      Blind loyalism to FG/Lab and the EU doesn’t change the horrendous and unsustainable debt levels that affects much of the Euro zone and most of its banks.

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