If Israel were in the finals I’d bet he would rise from the dead dress up in blue & white with an inflatable crucifix and head off for Poland/Ukraine on his donkey.

I believe they don’t like masturbation either. Like……come on :D

They never even apologised to Darwin for the 150+ years of grief they gave him either.

Fair point. There are quite a few atheists that seem to enjoy ridiculing people of faith but I think they’re in the minority.There’s a difference between people believing in some higher being and those who actively support an organisation like the Catholic Church. I’d be as critical of any organisation and its supporters who consider child abuse to be acceptable, who consider women to be inferior and who consider homosexuality to be an abomination.

I would agree with much of that sentiment Dermot. As a whole I think the church has done more bad than good for the country not only due to the abuse but also the intellectual stranglehold they placed on the nation.

However I think some very good priests such as Fr McVerry and the Brothers who give out the food parcels, do genuinely represent “Christian values” and even some local priests can be great community activists etc. I have also had some very interesting philosophical discussions with surprisingly liberal minded clergy.

I think its fair for people to be totally opposed to Church, but I feel the irony is lost on people who talk about respecting difference in one breath and in the other call people of faith “sheep” or “ignorant” or whatever.

Maybe they feel the same about those going to watch the euro 2012. Each to their own, live and let live.

Joe Duffy is going and hes allways right.

They let them off with that child abuse thing.

Ha ha another big con. Sheep never learn. No wonder they end up as the dogs dinner.

Coverage is fine. The fawning sort of coverage RTE will produce will of course be extremely biased. It’ll be akin to the Jubilee in Britain, no room for dissenting voices.

It’s RTE – only to be expected.

“feel they know more than the church”. I’d say I was 6 years old when I realised that in fact I did know more. The Church is an organisation that has systematically repressed the people of this country over the course of centuries. They’ve covered up horrific crimes against children and adults. The Church in other countries is just as bad, I’m reading a book about the Spanish Civil War and some of the stuff the Church got up to there before the War is horrific.

You confuse an attack on the Church as an attack on Catholics. I’ve no issue with anyone having faith or following a certain relgion. I don’t understand it but I respect a person’s freedom to believe. It’s the systematic coverup within the hierarchy of that organistation people have issue with.

Well Ireland’s Owen,if you don’t like it,forgive them. Also by saying “Unfortunately Ireland is full of fools” isn’t very Christian,now is it ???

The Irish are becomming more educated by the day that is why that foreign organization is losing members of its flock on a daily basis. We must realize there will always be one or two that go on believing in santa untill they are told otherwise and we must not ridicule them. It is not their fault they were protected by their oldfashioned parents from the real world. A clever sheep will try and escape. A dopey sheep will stay with the flock and board that big lorry with the others straight for the slaughter house. ha ha. yum yum. Good food and best wine in the vatican whilst the eejits put their money in a basket.

If you think that Ireland is full of small mined bigots why dont you go and live elsewhere. Maybe in the vatican with all the P………

‘wonderful occasion’? It’s an embarrassment to this country. Catholic church punishes those who interfere with its money yet shields those who interfere with children!

@ Stephen Kearon

…Not to mention the 1.5 billion bill they have left the state with (thats you and I) to pay to the victims of the organisations perverts – one they like Brady, could have done more to stop them …but didn’t!
Just pressurised and made kids swear to silence instead!

Anyone that supports an organisation that did that alone, is an blind, stupid following idiot!

this proves the brainwashing point

“Unfortunately Ireland is full of fools who feel they know more than the church”

Says the guy oompa loompa outfit.

Hmmm.. Closed minds and yet you claim that if people were more spiritual they’d appreciate it..
Isn’t that kind of a contradiction? You forgot about all those other spiritual people who aren’t catholic..

Mind you, that’s not your fault.. Those scriptures do sorta imply that those who do not accept Jesus as their saviour are heathens doomed to hell. We must accept it as absolute truth, we must! Because there are no other gods, everyone else is wrong.. This book, written by men, claims to be the word of god.. Who can argue with that? Absolute authority, over something no one can ever really prove or disprove..

Only problem is, all the stories in biblical scripture appear many times before the time period that scripture is supposed to have been written. And unlike the bible, they come with far more logical stories.. Like Yahweh and Adonai being two different people, and there being a race of Adams rather than just one.. (no split personality disorder for god and no incest / bestiality for Cain)

And yet you call others closed minded and lacking any spirituality.. How much have you looked outside of your own beliefs? As in, really challenged them?