You forgot “ambushed whe Mulitury Prucisun” !

I did and all, thanks for the reminder!

As the saying goes…

The least initial deviation from the truth is multiplied later a thousandfold. (Aristotle)

Lol, who’d have thought!

Truth seeks to reveal itself…

The Truth Seeks to Reveal itself…amen

Sean Gallagher took the Brown envelope,well done to all for pointing out what he failed to admit in the first place,now he feels tricked as he told tell the truth.This is laughable and as Eoin has pointed out ‘Revealing the truth like that… How unjust’ Get a grip Sean Gallagher some Dragon you turned out to be.

According to Hugh Morgan, the truth is that he gave a cheque to Seamus Kirk, not Seán Gallagher, which he revealed after the election.

Seánin – Is it not better to keep silent lest people start to look in to your financial affairs. You set quiet a challenge to investigative reporters, with your garbled explanations of your businesses, loans and Govt. grants. , that frankly raised page after page of questions and many a shocked eyebrow in the SME sector.

And he made a statement the following week saying he was wrong about the whole thing.

Hang on a minute there …. He admitted collecting the envelope eh eh eh eh cheque himself on the front line that night …. game over and out !!!

Find for me exactly where he admitted it and I’ll admit defeat here and now. Conversely, if you can’t find it, I expect the same courtesy from you. Making statements without being able to back them up is all too easy to do, and in this case it cost a decent man his reputation. What isn’t easy, is admitting you were wrong.

Joe Bourke : You obviously have me confused with some one who gives a fuck . Read all of the above statements … There is your answer . You are a FFailure just like your mentor. Sean Gallagher was found to be a liar .

Aggressive tone, swearing, name calling, pointing out answers that aren’t there, failure to back up a single point … Cheers, you’ve proven everything I initially said! As for spending time commenting on things that you admittedly “don’t give a f*** about”, bit strange?

Only because I have outed You … Mc.. Oh and it is your comments I do not care for Mc…

@ Joe. If Gallagher had just depended on telling the truth he could have answered easily and dealt with it on the night. Any fool can remember the truth.

If someone asked me did I fundraise and collect envelopes for FF I could answer easily.

@ joe bourke

i personally think it was his stumbling between the word cheque and envelope that knackered him , nobody said nothing about an envelope only gallagher.

And calling him a decent man is a bit rich after all the lies he told during the campaign ” me twenty acres as a farmer” etc.

More to it than just inexperience and certainly not naïveté on Gallagher’s part, anything but …. the phrase “caught rotten” springs to mind.

Also think that the significance of the “fake tweet” has been overstated. It simply said that €5k cheque guy, Mr. Morgan, would give a press conference the next day, nothing more. As it happened, Morgan gave a statement through his solicitor rather than a press conference, so it wasn’t far off the mark.

The “fake tweet” contained no new allegations, and was substantially true, even if its source was turned out to be dubious. It wasn’t defamatory, it didn’t say anything about Gallagher, but merely put pressure on him to ‘fess up, as his lies were likely to be exposed the next day if he didn’t, whether he liked it or not.

No lies, no problem.

Personally, I still think there’s a distinction between putting unverified, but potentially pertinent material to a candidate and using unverified sources in reportage – when there’s a direct right of reply an honest candidate can make nothing of false allegations in two sentences. Gallagher was unable to do this, because he’d been lying all along.

Having said all of that, I do think that at least a cursory check into the tweet should’ve been carried out, even though RTÉ’s policy on live comments like phone-ins and tweets specifically says that the will not be fact-checked, it still would have been better practice.

I’d also like to know how many FF appointees are on the BAI – can easily see this one being spun into a “poor Seán, set up by them nasty Sinners and RTÉ’s D4 cabal” story.

The compliance committee is where I assume that this complaint will end up has 8 members. 4 are government appointees and the other 4 are appointed by the BAI (2 will be BAI staff). Not sure if the current Government has made any appointments yet. The people currently listed seemed to be appointed by Eamon Ryan.

I was looking at the Frontline debate again and word for word you have it right. The only one at fault here is Uncle Fester himself (Sean Gallagher).

Pat is long enough at current affairs to know the game, and its rare indeed to see him anything but well briefed and informed about the discussion at hand.

The Late Late Show aside, he’s a consummate broadcaster, and was well able for Gallagher’s spooFFery.

Glenna Lynch is a friend of the Kennys and few others in Rte and her husband was involved in the MIcheal D campaign. Please read my other comment at the bottom of the page.

It was Fitz but they we can’t just keep sounding off about government and budgets everyday. Gallagher is a sure bet to get the blood boiling again. We love to hate him!

That’s all this is about. Seanie is addicted to slurping at the taxpayer trough, and has the blood in his nostrils as a result of the Fr. Reynolds case.

The highly unlikely event of RTE, ergo the taxpayer throwing him a bone or two would be nothing out of character for SG.

What about the fianna fail person he wanted to replace. He never denied being a member of fianna fall and it was uncovered that he was fundraising for them. Big deal. Sensationalist journalism is what it was what brought him down and now we have a coffin dodging poet in the retirement home.

They were ONLY the polls!! They didn’t count…..

@David. I’ll let a lot go but less of the agist stuff. Ask yourself how come that was the only “dirt” they had on Michael D? He’s a good honest man and I love him. I’m delighted he’s our president.

Plenty dirt on him but the media didn’t sensatationalise it so much. As for ageism that works both ways. a lot of young people are discriminated against every day and no mention of ageism. Many people are kicked out of their jobs when they turn 65.

I am delighted he is President too..

@David. I know some find socialism a “dirty” word. I don’t.

Wrong David, the truth is what brought him down, thankfully. Remind me of the dirt that wasn’t sensationalised so much on MDH. I must have missed that!
Delighted we got a President to be proud of in the end.

Silent P . No doubt this is what it is all about ! Will he give his alleged paymasters the compo then ???

@Silent P. The complaint will be upheld (or not) against the station. Gallagher isn’t taking legal action (like the recent action against RTE) so there won’t be a financial settlement. He’ll get an apology (or not). However, he seems to have complained directly to the BAI. The first port of call is supposed to be the broadcaster. You can then go onto the BAI for further review if your original complaint to the broadcaster is rejected.

Think Gallaghers complaint must be in the queue behind all the Sinn Fein ones. Think they were lodging complaints after the first debate. Busy times for the BAI.

Obviously not as effective as FF……… or FG/Lab!

How can someone not in Sinn Fein sending in the tweet unveiling the truth be seen as Sinn Fein propaganda???

Was it Sinn Fein Propaganda tho ? good point Thinkshpake . It could have been any one ….

It’s like you lot have wandered straight off the pages of 1984.

Ciarán. Open your mind. Gallagher got a lucky break, his financial affairs are so complex, that he would have been gone within a year, as he, ahem, concentrated on them instead.

Unless the Shinners c hanged accountancy rules and company reg’s years ago, just to set him up.

All a bit tin foil hat from u.

No doubt McGuinness’s masterclass in politics finished off Gallagher’s campaign but it was not the only reason. The interior designer, whose name I forget, launched question after question, on his finances, absolutely demolished him. Gallagher, in all his arrogance, called her “that woman” on Pat Kenny, with such venom, that she called in. Once again she probed his financial dealings, he couldn’t answer a question straight. The “envelope” saga showed he was a FF bagman, pedaling influence. Her questions raised more serious doubts, very serious doubts, that have never been satisfactorily answered. Personally I hope that any investigative journalists out there, help Seán clear up this confusion, :)

The lady’s name is Glenna.:)

Ah yes. I kinda of remember shouting “Gleanna I love u” one morning while Pat Kenny was on in the background.

Ha ha ha ha ….. Gallagher The Good …. You will have him walking on water yet ! You are delusional if you think Gallagher is doing this for any thing noble. More like trying to line his pockets .

Yeah because there’s huge money to be made in making complaints to the BAI (??!?) …

32.—(1) In this section “commercially sensitive information”
means—
(a) financial, commercial, technical or other information
whose disclosure could reasonably be expected to result
in a material financial loss or gain to the party to which
it relates, or could prejudice the competitive position of
that party in the conduct of its business, or
(b) information whose disclosure could prejudice the conduct
or outcome of contractual or other negotiations of the
party to which it relates.
(2) It is the duty of the Authority to so conduct its affairs as to
secure that its revenue becomes as soon as possible, and thereafter
continues to be, at least sufficient to meet its expenses.

Is there a point to any of that or did you merely copy and paste a section of the Broadcasting Act in the hope that in some small way, it might vaguely relate to your original point … Copy and paste the bit where it outlines how exactly complainants “line their pockets” and it might have slightly more relevance to what you originally said.

I copy and pasted it just for you Mc. I do not have time for spoon feeding you , you can check it out here ………… http://www.bai.ie/ .

I fully understand the Act, spent an entire torturous module on it in college. What I don’t understand is what s.32 has to do with complainants gaining financial advantage from bringing cases to the Authority? It wouldn’t be spoon feeding, simply explaining the relevance.

I agree totally Joe. That is exactly the point. If that tweet had been about Higgins or mitchel Kenny would have thought twice about reading. But because Gallagher was independant he wasn’t seen as important. Its gas though to see Kenny – the great mcguinness hater, being made a fool of by “fake” sinn fein tweet. it’s not so long ago that mcguinness wouldn’t be let in the door of rte. How things have changed!

He was exposed as a two-bit liar…….. how that came about is irrelevant. If we were to play the PC game Kaiser Biff would still be Taoiseach!

@Luke I would be inclined to agree. Furthermore the veracity of what actually happened was never fully explained. Of course the BAI moratorium or reporting kicked a day or two later then we had the election itself.

It was a masterpiece of politics though! Having said that, Gallagher should have answers for it on the spot. That’s a part of being in politics.

RTE did have a major systems failure (again) in not verifying the tweet.

It’s very simple, folks.

If he was telling the truth, he wouldn’t even have to think about the answer.

He was caught out in dozens of lies during the campaign, I gather, to take just one example, he still hasn’t submitted his accounts to the CRO.

For those wondering about the significance of the five thousand euro (or, up to, as Baldy Bertie put it), the reason for such a figure is that anything over that amount must be declared. Seanie, and his FF brethren, in their drive for openness and transparency, spent most of their time soliciting donations of €4,999.99c!

@Ryan – in fairness every party engages in soliciting donations. What Gallagher did wasn’t unusual. They were (are) all at it. The mistake Gallagher made was making it sound that there was something wrong with it. It was standard fare, why deny it?

Plenty of people behind in the CRO submissions – however I would agree if you are going for presidency you need to have that stuff in order.

Evening Brian,

No crime in being a member of a party, even if it is FF. No crime in soliciting donations either.

I won’t touch on Gallagher’s business activities in any monetary detail, because there’s a book in it, one that his accountant probably has locked away securely, save to say that Gallagher committed to publishing his accounts in full-he has yet to do that. He did publish a bullshit P60 (IIRC it wasn’t for a full year, and referred to one company alone), that showed his earnings in the year of his marriage as around €200 a week, despite his lavish and no doubt expensive wedding in the same year, that would probably have wiped that out between the band and the hors d’oeuvres alone.

In short, he has lied repeatedly about every detail of his life, even down to the couple of dozen acres his late father bought him to get him going, claiming they were his own. Contemptible. And that is the problem. He lied about FF. He lied about being an active member, and he remains one! He lied about his support for candidates in the last election. He lied about his ongoing fundraising. He lied about his motivation for joining the NE, and his membership of it, memorably claiming in one interview, and indeed one sentence, that it wasn’t about changing policy, but in the second half of the sentence telling us it was. He could not name one piece of significant legislation passed in the last seven years. He lied about an unpaid startup loan he received,. He decried negative campaigning, but threw sly little digs at the Shinners about loading guns and pulling triggers. He never heard of Morgan Fuels, when everyone in the border area could tell you exactly who they were (prominent GAA sponsors among other things), but remembered who Morgan was very quickly when confronted with the infamous tweet. He charged GAA clubs a kings ransom for filling in forms, and gullible startups €250 an hour to spout cliches at them. He went on Dragons Den as a benevolent investor, but invested in none. He pimped himself within FF as a confidante of Charlie Haughey. He took almost €900k in state loans in assistance for his ailing company, and drew down all bar €20k of that in the same year for two made up meaningless patents and an annual rent that would have bought the building in question. He claimed visual impairment held him back, but could tear around in a VW jeep without needing glasses. He claimed during the election to support unpaid subbies through his FF activities, despite defaulting on a number of debts himself.

There’s definitely a book in Sean Gallagher, and had he actually succeeded in getting into the Aras, I have no doubt it would be written within six months, and we may well have witnessed our first impeachment.

I should clarify for accuracy, the startup loan was not unpaid, IIRC it was for, as SG put it “twenty thousand, and I paid back nineteen”.

He’s right, except he got £20,000, and paid back €19.000, thus making the amount unpaid six thousand instead of one thousand.

Typical of the rehearsed spin SG put forth throughout, before, during, and as it turns out, after the campaign as well.

He also claimed to have spent time in college in Maynooth yet had no qualifications on paper to show off. Which he would have done had he any .

Whatever about Sinn Fein….this guy is a real Me Feiner!!

Sorry Joe. The great back tracker Dev? The president we have now is the best by a mile. Ever.

Ok

Thanks Joe. (that was easy…)

Ok…as in couldn be arsed arguing with someone who lives to comment on the journal..but glad i made your little day easier sweetheart.

Thanks Joe. Along with hurting my feelings you’ve hurt the feelings of all the other addicts too.

Don’t mind him Reada .He is just a bad mannered condescending person .

what a rebel….

-The truth is always a cast iron defence against a lie.

Unfortunately Gallagher’s defence was lacking (and the lie, despite its source, was not a lie at all, as the guy did indeed break his silence the following day).

0So Seanie is doing this for the greater good? LOL!

Like I said earlier all the FFail ures will have us believe he can walk on water …. He was caught out in his lies. On national tv.

CMD, Why did he make such a haims of the answer so? If he had nothing to hide then whats the big deal ?

Fair play I was one myself to be honest.

If she were a man no one would wonder whether the wife was involved in politics. Pathetic FF tripe. Did you not notice the women in the audience own those guys on Frontline tonight. Tà Mná na hÉireann ag labhairt leis na fir anois!!!

Her husband is not involved in any campagin and Glenna is not a friend of the Kennys, PK researcher had to tell him several times Glenna was on the line and pat thought was Glenda.

Even if Glenna Lynch was a friend of Pat Kenny and everyone else at RTE it doesn`t make her points any less true or her questions any less effective,

Sean did lie – he tried to distance himself from the party he was a central figure of, FIanna Fail. He lied about soliciting money for the fundraiser. He lied about the number of people he solicited money from.

All of these lies tore apart his carefully crafted image of an independent candidate with weak and distant links to the party that ruined this country.

Sean Gallagher lied again on Six One as he got caught up in his web. The problem with fibbing is you have to remember every exact detail. As Brian Dobson said ” Sean, the truth is always easy”. Unfortunately Sean did not know where he was in his lie.

As unsavory a character Martin McGuinness is, he did the State enormous service that night by preventing a proxy- Fianna Fail candidate taking the Presidency. No wonder the British described him as “officer class”. All he said was “Sean, a man told me you took the cheque”. All Gallagher had to say was “a man told you, you’ll have to get better sources than that”. But unfortunately Gallagher was under so much pressure from his web of lies, he blurted out the truth about his central role in Fianna Fail and the mask slipped.

Watching Gallagher crumble to pieces was a poetic moment. The attack was like watching an Exocet cruise missile penetrate the hull of a ship.

It was one of those moments alright Sean macc. A moment in time – an “I’ll never forget where I was moment”. Pure class!!!

Comment meant as reply to something, somewhere above … Made me realise, why can’t you remove comments that you posted?

What false claims ?

Ha ha . Now you just look silly !

Sean Gallagher is as much a FFail ure as Meehall Martin . Good night . This dis cussion has lost its intelligence !

Was he a member of FF or not?

I did.

Sorry bout that Aidan. And I didn’t like my own comment either. We’re not the only night owls … Obviously …

everybody is doing that, see i have a like already

You’re funny ken.

i notice too that replies to comments show up on the website but not on the phone.

Yeah app and website are different, I’ve stopped using the app, you’ll also notice on the app that stories aren’t in sequence as they are on the site, Very annoying. (maybe sean has the missing comments in his envelope :-) maybe he hasn’t )