Does America not severly punish? It really seems to work over there!

america’s penal system does not work.
They have one of the World’s largest prison population and a serious crime rate.

America punishes with long prison sentences. I didn’t say that’s what we need.
Nobody can deny that anti social behaviour is worse now than ever before. So what’s changed?
When I was younger, parents were not afraid to punish their own kids.
Parents would always side with the guards. Not any more. Nowadays kids get away with murder.

America has one of the World’s largest prison populations because America is one of the World’s largest countries.

I believe the garda are deploying segways to the scene. They should arrive early saturday morning. Normal patrols to resume once fully recharged.

What kind of a nation of obedient brainwashed idiots are we??? We accept traitors destroying our country and streets without law!!!! Stand up and demand change you spineless fools before its too late

If 700 years of oppressive colonialism are anything to go by, we have a history of putting up with a lot of shit.

Only this time with more spikes

And hopefully whoever did this will be in the back of a Garda car very soon But then what will he get a slap on the wrist ???

ah but you are forgetting about the do gooders!

Give the do gooder fckwits 10 years as well, sharing a cell with the filth.

Unfortunately its not a nice place, fair few rough estates in celbridge now , huge drug problems there aswell.

Drugs were a problem along time ago. Castletown gate was we’re you went for drugs and prostitution back in the 80s. I was only a kid back then and even knew it.

Hahaha prostituion never happend in celbridge hahah!

Ah come on, it’s Halloween, there’s always going to be destructive stuff like this happening. I doubt there are any measures any minister could introduce to stop something like this… There’ll always be THAT group of kids that think this kind of thing is funny.

Seriously Rob, they’ll probably grow up thinking setting a house on fire or robbing is funny too!

Gerard
You have a funny idea about the duties and responsibilities of Government Ministers. Nowhere does the Constitution say that the Minister for Justice is obliged to get involved on the operational functions of the Gardai in dealing with mindless young thugs who were involved in this activity.
I love Germany! In this progressive country parents and grand parents are held accountable for the unlawful actions of their genetically flawed offspring.
Any ensuing Court case involving theses kind of crimes could see the jailing if the offender and the parents or compensation being paid by the latter.
Yep you’ve guessed correctly…..there isn’t much of this mindless thuggery in Germany.

Why aren’t I surprised, that Germany knows how to do it right. We’d go out and riot and behalf of the quinns, or say Sure they’re only having fun! what a basket case of a Country, a banana repbublic!

Rob do you not think it is an attitude of acceptance like yours that has our society destroyed.

Right so Rob, how about your car being burned?!

Stephen Murphy.
I agree with both of your comments. Ireland has been an unfunny joke for ages, it has now entered the realm of shit hole too. Whatever ‘system’ we had is not, has not and will not work

Hey Zombie

Did you not read my posting above. This is down to parents in Castletown Estate in Celbridge rather than the Minister for Justice. Use your brain and stop blaming everybody but the right people. Furthermore this wasn’t one kid on his own. There’s no entertainment value in doing this stuff without an audience so there are lots of people in that middle class estate who know exactly who is responsible and none of their names sound like Shatter.

While I agree with you mostly Gary, and that Shatter, as minister, should stay out of meddling in Garda Operational matters, the force needs more support badly!! Garda numbers should be swelled drastically with recruitment and patrol car numbers and their fleet standards improved significantly!! If that were the case there might have been backup there and the crowd could be better monitored where they wouldn’t have had the chance to torch the car!! Shatter’s all too quick to provide the TV / radio press soundbite to further his own agenda when it’s not appropriate but wont back the Guards where it counts!!

Rob, You are so correct.

John
Do you think a Garda Station being present or absent had anything to do with this thuggery. The local Garda station is a mere stroll from the Estate where this happened.

Of course having an open Garda station has everything to do with catching crooks , but so does proper resources.
Nice play on Garret Fitzgerald’s name. You are not fit to wipe his boots.

I’m wondering if the guards will do a blue flu over conditions. Could not really blame them. Oh interestingly I was informed by a friend of mine that when shatter gives the garda strenght numbers he inflates it Cos he includes reserves that can’t even for outside without a full time guard watching them and are very limited in how they can act. Shatter also includes civilian office staff in his numbers. So few guards few cars. Public really needs to support their police

State vehicles don’t have insurance as its covered by the government!

I think state vehicles are subject to the same laws, we must obey!

Yeah same laws but in terms of insurance it’s the state that insures them same as other emergency vehicles and ministerial vehicles.

Aww Reginald

It couldn’t be bad parenting. You must be wrong. It has to be genetics. Surely the bad parenting is also genetics?

thats a bit harsh ,, all thay done was left it unattended,

Nonsense .

Why is it nonsense? It was set on fire wasnt it!

It was set on fire , but we should be able to leave our cars unattended without them being interfered with .

hahahah

very intelligent comment indeed, how would you deal with a call and not leave the car unattended. They cant drive through trees you know. why should anyone not be able to leave their car anywhere, these animals need to be tracked down and dealt with severely.