As the old saying goes! “Bloods thicker than clear blue water” !!

If Enda was going to have a debate with O’Brien on the NYSE balcony then of course he’d know in advance but the Taoiseach meets with dozens of people everyday that haven’t given prior notice.

I don’t buy it David whats his staff at if they don’t have the information as to who is attending these events.

Not defending anyone here but it was the NYSE. Sherlock’s thing wasn’t. Like it or not O’Brien is still a big name. The NYSE invite who they want. Enda and his team had no say in it and had no right to dictate who he was there or not. He obviously couldn’t refuse the invitation either.

@David

The way you’ve described that I’d be more concerned with the security of our Taoiseach than who he was pictured with in New York!

@david
I asked you a question on a different story last night but you didn’t answer me. I would appreciate a response if you wouldn’t mind, thanks.

@Thevoice I’ve blocked email notifications from TheJournal. Trying to get myself off this site. Wasting my time tying to convince all the Shinners and ULAers on this site :)

@David
Here It is again.

Could somebody please give me one good reason why I should be paying more tax because other people made criminal mistakes?

Is there 2 David Higgins or did you just change your photo? And don’t run away hiding from the journal before you answer my question.

How many times do I have to tell people on this site that I use both twitter and Facebook here. Click on my name and you’ll see it :)

The answer is that you shouldn’t have to be paying more tax and Enda made it clear in his state of the nation that the vast majority of people aren’t responsible for this crisis. However when you come into office with a massive budget deficit, you have absolutely no other choice but to fill it with tax rises and spending cuts that effect all. It’s mathematically and economically impossible to do otherwise.

@ david there are always chooses, how about burning bond holders?

The benefits of burning bondholders wouldn’t be realised until about 9 years down the road. It’d have made no difference to our current budget deficit. Nonetheless I think it should have been done.

@David

You only have to tell me once. There are other ways. What your party is trying to do is mathematically and economically impossible, people have no money to spend and you insist on taking more money from them, the number of people claiming social welfare has risen everyday since you got into power. Your party have broken every promise they made pre election. Here are a few:

1. FG/Lab voted against Budget 2011. Now it seems they are only too happy to take ownership of it.
2. They were going to burn the bondholders. They now refuse to impose losses on the billions of unsecured, unguaranteed senior bondholders at Anglo & Irish nationwide.
3. Varadkar said not another red cent would be put into the banks. I think they put in €19bn last year (not sure bout that one)
4. They signed a USI election pledge to reverse the €500 increase in the student services charge in Budget 2011. They refused to do so once in government.
5. FG promised “Fair Care” and Labour promised Universal Health Insurance. Fair Care has disappeared and in government the 2 parties have admitted that the insurance proposals will not happen for at least 10 years.
6. “There will be no more ‘golden handshakes’ for public servants that have failed to deliver”- According to their manifestos. Big playoffs for senior civil servants continue.
7. FG pledged they would cut the number of junior ministers to 12. Once elected they appointed 15.
8. Fine Gael pledged to abolish 145 quangos. By end of Feb 2012 they had created 3 times the number they abolished.
9. Ministerial advisors will be subject to salary caps. Most ministers advisors have breached the cap.

We could have saved a lot of money if you’s had of kept your promises and please stop with excuse that you this isn’t FG’s fault, you had plenty of people sitting in the dail all the time so you’s are as much to blame as anyone else.

If you think that Kenny and his staff didn’t know who he was photo-opping with at the NYSE then you’re seriously naive, regardless of what YFG shills like David say to the contrary. What would I know though, I’m just a slow-witted leftist.

While I’m here, David could you procure a lock of Enda’s hair for me?

I couldn’t make an comment on weather to burn the bondholders or not because the public don’t know who they are or what type of investment they made but If I gambled on something and it lost, I wouldn’t expect to get my obey back never mind getting millions of interest along with my losing bet

“The benefits of burning bondholders wouldn’t be realised until about 9 years down the road.”

How long before I see the benefits of what FG are doing???

“The answer is that you shouldn’t have to be paying more tax and Enda made it clear in his state of the nation that the vast majority of people aren’t responsible for this crisis.” David Higgins

So why are the vast majority of people paying for it? Why aren’t the people who were most responsible for it paying it?

@thehiggmeister sure didnt enda also tell everybody we ALL went mad! two faced. :)

@thevoice

“…….people have no money to spend……”

(While I appreciate what I’m about to say may seem like a blanket statement I would also hope that those reading it will also appreciate the point I’m trying to make)

Lots of these same people will have plenty of dough to spend on getting pissed once a weekend and will always make sure they buy fags too.

The Household Charge, whether we like it or not, is the law at the moment. People will be liable to penalties and eventually fines. The can’t pay won’t pay campaign morphed into “don’t want to pay, won’t pay” campaign.

It diluted the message that the people who genuinely couldn’t pay wanted to get across. I don’t believe that half the country couldn’t pay though.

The rest of your point I agree with entirely. I’m sick sore and tired listening to the same bloody excuse trotted out by a FG/Lab member that they inherited this problem and can’t do anything about it. We know they did inherit the problems we now face but christ they didn’t have to make all the promises they did. They would have got elected into power anyway. People wanted rid of FF and didn’t need the promises they gave as a carrot.

FG/Lab knew all about the problems before the election. If they had simply said they were going to do what they are now doing people would have been happy to vote for them because they would have given the assurances, that while bloody difficult, they would do their best for this country, put on the green jersey, get the shoulder to the wheel (and any other tired cliché you can think of) and do the best for the people.

But now all it looks like they are doing is feathering their own nests and that of other strategically linked ‘interests’

#rantover

They’re not naive Cal, they’re besotted.

What presenter?

Exactly! But we know Enda thinks if he says or does something out foreign the gobshites that fell for his lies back home will never find out.

Those were not the findings of the Moriarty tribunal. You’re setting up a false claim in order to knock it down. Re-read the article above to see what Moriarty found.