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Government’s new bill will block plans for Twomileborris ‘super-casino’

New gambling legislation being prepared by the government will not allow for “large resort-style casinos” like in Tipperary.

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Updated, 13.44

THE GOVERNMENT has confirmed plans to prepare an overhaul of Ireland’s gambling laws – in a move that will block the inclusion of a so-called ‘super-casino’ in Twomileborris, Co Tipperary.

Justice minister Alan Shatter said that the government had given him approval to work on new legislation modernising Ireland’s betting laws, to address a number of shortcomings in the current legislation.

In a statement, however, Shatter said the new legislation would not provide for “large resort-style casinos, such as have been proposed by some promoters”.

The laws would create provisions for more medium-sized developments, however.

“The number will be limited and every application will be subjected to vigorous checks, including deep and extensive checks on the promoters.”

“Only those promoters meeting high standards of personal and financial probity will be considered for a licence,” Shatter said.

Larger casino developments would “attract other activities that are not desirable and pose a particular risk to vulnerable people”, leading to an overall negative social impact.

Provision for more modest developments would be allowed, Shatter said, because the government had recognised the public’s support for “some form of casino entertainment”.

The casino element of the Twomileborris development had been dependant on a reform of gambling laws, which had been anticipated to liberalise the current rules which limit casinos to members-only status.

Shatter clarified on this lunchtime’s News at One that the number of tables proposed for the Tipperary complex – around 2,000 – would be deemed beyond the numbers allowed under the new legislation.

Casinos with 500 tables would also be considered too large, he said, indicating that the government would not provide for casinos larger than the private members’ clubs already in existence here.

An Bord Pleanála had given approval for the ambitious development in June, approving almost all elements of the proposed complex in Co Tipperary.

Aside from the ‘super-casino’, the complex is to include a 500-bedroom hotel, a racetrack, golf course and full-size replica of the White House.

The board had deemed proposals for a 15,000-seater music venue to be “inappropriate”. North Tipperary County Council had previously given its approval to the entire plans.

The overall development, estimated to cost €30m, was intended to create 1,000 construction jobs and to employ another 2,000 people upon completion.

A spokesperson for developer Richard Quirke, who is behind the plans for Twomileborris, said Quirke would meet his team later this week to discuss his response to the decision.

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Comments (42 Comments)

  • Folks, just to be clear, it’s only the casino element of the project that will now need to be addressed. There shouldn’t be any impact on the rest of the project, though of course it’ll be up to the developers to decide whether the rest of the project will be impacted.

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  • Its a pity, we could have got the former management of Anglo to run the casino, after all they have experience in this field

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  • Oh where’s that northtipp casino troll when you want him/her :D

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  • Titus d 21/09/11 #

    If only Fianna Fail were in power, this would be going ahead along with a few shopping centres, some hotels and a few housing estates

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  • The more you sit down and think about this idea the madder it gets !

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  • it was never the plan to complete this project, just smoke and mirrors to legalise his already existing casino in O Connell St that he has been running illegally for years and open up more in City centres where there is a population, smoke and mirrors

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    • Have you any idea the cost incurred in outing together the planning proposal for a project this size? Getting through standard planning is one thing, but bored pleanala would have been astronomical in cost. The local authorities would have milked this for all it was worth!

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  • Aydo 21/09/11 #

    Moaning about people speeding all their money on gambling cause we are I a bit of a hole at present is stupid. A proportion of people will overindulgence in something no matter eat. Addictive personalities and stupidity will find a way.

    But anyway, I can’t see how it would have done well anyway.

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  • I am delighted that this ‘white elephant’ has been blocked . It is the Last thing this small island needs. By all means have smaller casinos around the country where they can be properly monitored etc. I imagine Michael Lowry and company are a little miffed that Mr Shatter has stood up and said no…

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  • Well there goes what could have been a whole tonne of revenue. And I thought the government was begging the richer Irish people to spend some of their savings. These resort casinos are major money makers, the amount of tourism generated could easily have paid for the downsides (gambling education/addiction).
    Typical Old-Ireland politics, just when we need all the fresh opportunities we can get.

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  • A massive source of employment? Who wants that? To quote Fr. Ted, “Down with this sort of thing!” How many people would be employed full time if this place got up and running? And the government ‘talks’ about creating jobs!!

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    • Is a casino not the last thing a country full of unemployed broke people need? a place to lose more money?

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    • Mike, poor people aren’t the customers of resort casinos.. In general it’s tourist fatcats with more money than sense.
      Also, there are already a load of casinos in Ireland. The idea is to make tourist destinations which would pull in wealthy people from across Europe.

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    • If people can’t control themselves that’s their problem but a huge venture like this would have been great for Ireland and the economy. Would create a load of jobs and also would be a huge tourist attraction.

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    • Balls!

      I’m from down the road adn here is what would happen,

      and massive influx of employment during construction period and a massive influx of immigrants into the area to fill the jobs. Employment dramatically drops once the place is set up and there isn’t enough jobs for the constructions families now set up in the area. Then when it inevitably fails it’d be worse than ever around here with a huge wasted complex, ghost hotels and an immigrant population with even less jobs to go around, sound familiar?

      If a resort like that will bring loads of people in why not attach it to something like the K-Club instead of building everything from scratch in the middle of nowhere. Wouldn’t just upgrading a current facility make more sense than building a completely new one here?

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    • Barry 21/09/11 #

      Re: Stephen Carney,
      Thing is people can’t control themselves, if they could we’d never have idiots drink driving or OD’ing on any illegal drugs. The last thing people need that are on the dole is a place to waste even more of their money, its bad enough with the Lotto and the massive amount of betting shops.

      Curious just who you expected to visit the casino, its location was idiotic as it was affectively located in the back arse of no where and I say this as somebody that lives not too far away from it. Sure there’s a motorway but its still a two hour drive from Dublin or Cork .

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    • Las Vegas used to be the back arse of no where, now look at it… Nevada made gambling legal paving the way for a niche tourist trap which has evolved over the past 60 years to what it is today

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    • @Conor: It’s not quite down the road, now is it? ;)

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  • Who got this country into the state its in only small minded people making up jobs for ‘the boys’ . Fianna Faill Has brought this country to where it is at.Well done Mr Shatter

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  • disastrous news for the local area & region. the amount of jobs that would have been created both directly and indirectly would have taken thousand off the dole and kept a lot of businesses afloat. Typicle shortsightedness by our elected officials.

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  • This country will remain a bog hole until our TS’s learn to think outside the box! While we continue to elect small minded men to positions too big for them the country will never get back on it’s feet

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  • Typical reaction from a nanny state, anti employment government! Surely the tax generated by the casino running, including income two, relief for many of the dole would have covered the cost on the state to regulate it. It would have a been a huge boost to tourism and other employment not to mention construction jobs. SHAME ON SHATTER!

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  • It is simply unacceptable how the government is sabotaging our plans to create a huge numbers of jobs in the North Tipperary area. It makes me wonder if the FG/Labour coalition actually is working toward destroying employment in this lovely country. They implement cuts in healthcare leading to people losing their jobs, they fire a large amount of Special Needs Assistances and now they even block a private sector initiative to create jobs?!
    Shame on you Mr. Shatter!!

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    • I bet you and Lowrey didn’t see this coming, if you couldn’t see this coming you shouldn’t be gambling

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    • too right government my arse pack of crooks and gangsters wouldnt run a garden fete never mind say the country and that goes for the whole lot of em state the place is in at the moment anything is worth a shot that might give some bit of hope and employment to people and i only live ten minutes away from where this is to take place shame on all the idiots that have the cheek to run this country run it into the ground and tell us what we can and cannot do

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  • Typical dub living still in the time of the pale it’s time people in Dublin and the dail should wake up and realise that over 3000 jobs anywhere in the country is obviously a move in the right direction …..if this site was preposed on the m50 it would be swarmed with politics and media intrest ….

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  • dead right to eamon totally agree with you

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