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Greece arrests three neo-Nazis for attacks, arms posession

Greek police have arrested two neo-Nazi sympathisers for illegal arms possession and a third person suspected of involvement in an attack that left three Pakistani migrants hospitalised,

Protesters hold a giant banner during a silent march through the streets of Athens in protest against racism and neo-nazism.
Protesters hold a giant banner during a silent march through the streets of Athens in protest against racism and neo-nazism.
Image: Kostas Tsironis/AP/Press Association Images

GREEK POLICE HAVE arrested two neo-Nazi sympathisers for illegal arms possession and a third person suspected of involvement in an attack that left three Pakistani migrants hospitalised, a police source said Friday.

The arrests come as Greece is increasingly coming under pressure by human rights groups and its European neighbours to fight its growing neo-Nazi tendencies and widespread xenophobic violence.

In a public appeal to witnesses, police on Friday released the names and photographs of two of the men – arrested in an Athens suburb earlier this month after officers found a gun, switchblade knives and bats stashed in their car.

The men, aged 19 and 27, are suspected of having taken part in recent anti-migrant raids linked to the violent Greek neo-Nazi group, Golden Dawn, which entered parliament in June after amassing seven percent of the votes. At least two people have been killed and about ten injured in the xenophobic crack-downs.

Police arrested the third man, in his 30s and married to a Golden Dawn member, on the popular resort island of Crete. He is suspected of having taken part in Thursday’s violent attack on three Pakistanis who were hospitalised after being severely stabbed and beaten.

Police are still searching for nine other suspects linked to that attack.

- © AFP, 2013

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  • Throw as many of these neo-nazis into jail as possible, they are a bad bunch.. Zero tolerance for fascism!

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  • they took our jobs! durp a durp!

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  • Attacks like this to anybody irrespective of their origins are disgusting to see happen to anybody be it race gender religion or sexuality. This actions show parallels of the 1930’s again coming to the fruition once again. when the political classes across Europe abandoned their fellow citizens in the 1930’s with a similar economic & fiscal crisis the political class were replaced by such like minded individuals and groups and world war 2 ensued. Longer politicians dish out such a recipe of austerity to the majority of citizens the immigrants become the scapegoats in any society. Shows the political classes across Europe and especially euro austerity have decided to ignore the sirens call of recent history. This action by the Greek neo nazi’s could appears to be the start of serious groundswell of support not only in Greece but further afield.

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  • Why do these idiots model themselfs on the nazis…..they failed in their objectives.Do they think they are better?

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  • Well… in fairness we do things sl9ghly different maybe more suttle and cuter but the rise of sinn fein is same thing in a way

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    • Stop talking rubbish

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    • Historically speaking Sinn Fein-IRA were supporters of the Nazis and participated in attacking Irish Jews, promoting Nazi propaganda, etc. If the Germans had succeeded in occupying Ireland, Sinn Fein would have been the government.

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    • SF/IRA did support the Nazis during WWII. They don’t like to talk about it now because they supported the losing side. It must not be forgotten that Hitler was the greatest mass murderer on this planet. The morals of SF/IRA are non existent. Their childish excuses normally start with ‘what about…’.

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    • http://markhumphrys.com/sfira.tyranny.html. They still attacks Jews to this day and post Nazi propaganda online. It’s easily researchable.

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    • Sinn Féin did not support Nazi Germany during WW2. What sort of revisionist nonsense is this? Please supply evidence of Sinn Féin’s involvement with Nazi Germany. The only person I can even think of that was remotely connected to Nazi Germany was Seán Russell, who sought weapons from them. He should be rightly condemned for it – but is it any worse than Fine Gael’s (Then Cumann na nGaedheal) Eoin O’Duffy who went one step further and actively fought alongside a fascist dictator?

      Any comparisons between Sinn Féin of 2013 and these Greek far-right lunatics is utterly ridiculous.

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    • “They still attacks Jews to this day”

      Eh, no they don’t. Please cite me one valid article from a credible news source to back this up? Typical mud-slinging.

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    • What nonsense and utter lies! Fine Gael and the DUP are closer to this lot than Sinn Fein! left and right boys, let’s not get confused.. Sean you are 100% correct, the IRA fought for the democratic Republic against the fascists in Spain while the Blueshirts of Fine Gael, with the blessing of the Irish Bishops, went out to fight for Franco, Hitlers buddy.. It’s amazing how some people feel they can get away with twisting and mis-representing historical facts..

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    • There’s no point in arguing with either of you. You ignore Mark Humphry’s link and challenge nothing on it. It doesn’t matter how much evidence one provides some will defend Sinn Fein-IRA terrorists to the end.

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    • Aaron t 15/02/13 #

      What is scary is that people across Europe may start seeing parties like golden dawn as an alternative to current political parties which have been associated to the current crisis. The last thing Europe needs right now is a resurgence in fascism.

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    • “There’s no point in arguing with either of you. You ignore Mark Humphry’s link and challenge nothing on it. It doesn’t matter how much evidence one provides some will defend Sinn Fein-IRA terrorists to the end.”

      Mark Humphry’s makes a lot of assumptions and uses Wikipedia and “Stormfront” as some of his research sources??? Consider his page challenged!!!

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    • Wikipedia? Wikipedia has citations which leads to the links and most of Mr. Humphrys sources are not Wikipedia. There are actual YouTube links which come straight from Eirgi and other Republican fascists, YouTube accounts. One video states “the only good Jew is a dead Jew”? I have been personally subjected to racist remarks by a so-called “Irish Republican”. I’m mixed with Irish, one example was by the owner of the “F*ck Israel” FB page who is Irish. Told me I was a “half-breed” and he makes the worst anti-Semitic states possible and refers to Jews/Israelis as “Nazis”. He regularly attacks the Irish pro-Israel FB page I am a fan of. They have made comments about killing Jews and claim that “Zionists” funded Oliver Cromwell, were behind the Irish famine and funded loyalist terrorist organizations. That’s only the tip of the iceberg. Not to mention Jewish “financial terrorism”. Being left-wing doesn’t mean one is necessarily “liberal”.

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    • Sinn Fein were not supporters of the Nazis. People like Russell were just using a situation to benefit their cause and were under no illusions as to what the Nazis were really like. After all, Germany had supplied both Unionists and Nationalists prior to the First World War. People should realise that in the early 20th century most countries had a Nationalist party and a lot still do. This does not mean they held the same views as the German Nazi Party. I’m not a Sinn Fein supporter but even I realise they played a large role in gaining Ireland’s independence and deserve some respect for that, not mud thrown at them.

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    • ““the only good Jew is a dead Jew”

      So Sinn Féin is now responsible for every video put on youtube from so called Republicans? LOL – You couldn’t make this nonsense up. Go out and get some fresh air for yourself.

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    • It just happens all the people who are fanatically anti-Semitic are Sinn Fein-IRA supporters. The difference between me and Sinn Fein-IRA supporters is I don’t support terrorists and justify their mass murder in the name of so-called “freedom” or “patriotism”. Shall I quote some of the things Mr. O’Snodaigh (SF) has said about Israel? Not to mention attending rallies where they burn Israeli flags.

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    • @ Kevin N

      The more I read the information on the site,the more laughable it becomes.Here is one example.Under the section “Nazis and Nazi supporters in Ireland” this is how it goes (This is only 2 of many examples)

      “Sean Harrington(Wiki link), Chief-of-Staff of the IRA 1941-42,(Wiki link) and Nazi collaborator.(No sourced information to back this up?)

      Charlie Kerins(Wiki link), Chief-of-Staff of the IRA 1942-44(Wiki link), and Nazi collaborator.(No sourced information to back this up?)”

      There are some complete baseless claims being made on that page and it’s embarrassing for the author and yourself to try and cite this as some sort of proof to further your “agenda”!!! It is total propaganda Kevin,and a tactic somewhat accredited to be perfected in the modern day by Joseph Goebbels.I hope the irony of this is not lost on you,or more importantly your friend Mark Humphry’s!!!

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    • Criticising the policies of Israel doesn’t make someone anti-Semitic. In fact, some of Israels biggest critics are American Jews. What does that make them? You have a black and white view of politics and history, a bit like the followers of Fascism.

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    • @Ru Ni – I know the truth is “laughable”. How dare I talk bad about the “freedom fighters” of Northern Ireland who should be charged with crimes against humanity.

      @John – What absolute bullshit. “Criticizing the policies of Israel doesn’t make someone anti-Semitic.” I agree but obsessively bashing/vilifying Israel and being completely silent when it comes to its neighbors is anti-Semitic. “You have a black and white view of politics and history, a bit like the followers of Fascism.” You’re clearly are a Sinn Fein supporter they love to call anyone who disagrees with them “fascists” when they are some of the biggest fascists themselves. The Jews have been the scapegoats throughout history over and over. The hatred/anger against Northern Protestants has been displaced towards Israelis/Jews. I assume you’re against the so-called “occupation” of Northern Ireland?

      http://markhumphrys.com/irish.left.israel.html
      http://markhumphrys.com/why.palestine.html

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    • “@Ru Ni – I know the truth is “laughable”. How dare I talk bad about the “freedom fighters” of Northern Ireland who should be charged with crimes against humanity.”

      I see what you are doing here now. Before you said “There’s no point in arguing with either of you. You ignore Mark Humphry’s link and challenge nothing on it.” I have challenged the link at your request,so now you try and link me as some sort of IRA/Sinn Fein sympathizer as a feeble attempt to dismiss me while trying to deflect away from the fact. that your only source for your baseless claims,comes from a site making baseless claims.I honestly don’t care who you bad mouth,but when you try a spread falsehoods to further an “agenda”,you need to be called out on it.

      Also can you back this up with proper sourced information or is this just more of the same:

      “It just happens all the people who are fanatically anti-Semitic are Sinn Fein-IRA supporters.” ???

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    • “I see what you are doing here now. Before you said “There’s no point in arguing with either of you. You ignore Mark Humphry’s link and challenge nothing on it.” I have challenged the link at your request,so now you try and link me as some sort of IRA/Sinn Fein sympathizer as a feeble attempt to dismiss me while trying to deflect away from the fact. that your only source for your baseless claims,comes from a site making baseless claims.I honestly don’t care who you bad mouth,but when you try a spread falsehoods to further an “agenda”,you need to be called out on it.”

      @What have you exactly challenged other than mocking the link and claiming it is all from Wikipedia and untrue? Exactly all the pictures, videos, sites, etc. are part of a Zionist conspiracy. Let’s also remember all the anti-Israel murals in Northern Ireland were painted by Zionists to make Sinn Fein-IRA look bad. You don’t actually believe it was SDLP/Alliance supporters painting those murals do you?

      “Also can you back this up with proper sourced information or is this just more of the same: “It just happens all the people who are fanatically anti-Semitic are Sinn Fein-IRA supporters.” ???”

      @Seriously, you need me to back it up? It’s no secret how anti-Israel Sinn Fein is. Don’t act like you don’t know. I can’t provide more than two links per post, would you like me to provide the anti-Israel/Gerry Adams rally video and another wonderful example? I will, if you really cannot find such examples?! The overwhelming majority of anti-Israel posters on the Journal.ie here are Sinn Fein supporters or support lunatics like Richard Boyd Barrett. How do I know this? Because I have seen their comments a number of times on articles about Israel, Sinn Fein, PIRA, and dissident Republicans. I also base my opinions on my experience with such people.

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    • @ anonymous citizen eamon de valera was not anti Jewish there is even a forest named after him in Israel

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    • I challenged the fact that many of the claims made on the page,are completely baseless,based on the lack of any credible sources,and yes I did mock it because not only are many of the claims unproven,he even cites himself as a source. If the author is going to make claims with no evidence,then the whole integrity of the site is compromised… Let’s for a minute go back to this :

      “Sean Harrington(Wiki link), Chief-of-Staff of the IRA 1941-42,(Wiki link) and Nazi collaborator.(No sourced information to back this up?)
      Charlie Kerins(Wiki link), Chief-of-Staff of the IRA 1942-44(Wiki link), and Nazi collaborator.(No sourced information to back this up?)”

      Now please explain to me how this can be taken as serious evidence??? It’s the “Nazi collaborator.” part I’m most interested in,seen as this is the bases of Mark Humphrys claim,yet he can’t cite anything to back this up,Can you please explain this ???

      “What have you exactly challenged other than mocking the link and claiming it is all from Wikipedia and untrue? Exactly all the pictures, videos, sites, etc. are part of a Zionist conspiracy. Let’s also remember all the anti-Israel murals in Northern Ireland were painted by Zionists to make Sinn Fein-IRA look bad. You don’t actually believe it was SDLP/Alliance supporters painting those murals do you?”

      Once again,can you back any of this up with any credible sources,I would be interested in seeing if you could ??? I find the lack of links,pretty telling at the moment too Kevin.I’ll read any links you post,just as long as it not from Mark Humphrys site…

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    • @Ru Ni – There are countless links on his page. They are NOT his links. YouTube search IRA/Hamas, Israeli Embassy Dublin, Ireland/Palestine, Sinn Fein/Palestine, 32 county movement/Palestine and Eirgi/Palestine. If you can’t find any videos that would fall under the category of anti-Semitism/pure bigotry, then I don’t know what to say.

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    • Kevin once again I will say this,that page is not a credible source of information because of the claims that are made without evidence,So it is completely pointless to keep offering it as such.As I said before ” If the author is going to make claims with no evidence,then the whole integrity of the site is compromised.” T

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    • Paul 16/02/13 #

      It’s nice to be able to dismiss all criticism as racism. Must be great to have a specific type of prejudice named after your ethnicity, makes shooting down all legit criticism so much easier. Print your own free pass, even easier than printing false Irish passports to use on illegal state-run terrorism

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    • @Patrick Lyons.. No no you must never ever ever make any remarks about shinners, an awful lot of denial on this site… Still it’s good to have the freedom to make the comments that are the truth…

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    • @ Kevin, just because Shinneers are pro PLA doesn’t make them anti- Semitic, they have every right to sympathise with Palestine as any other has in sympathising with Israel..

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    • KEVIN.N 20/02/13 #

      @Ru Ni Digs – Mr. Humphrys response to you.
      Updated: http://markhumphrys.com/sfira.tyranny.html#ww2.people

      I see one of them accuses me of using Stormfront as a source!

      He is referring – incredibly – to this article:
      “I helped Hitler bomb Belfast”, says IRA man, Jacqui Thornton, Daily Telegraph, October 12, 1997.

      This is in the Daily Telegraph!
      It’s not free online, so I linked to a Google search for it.
      It just happens that Stormfront turns up in the Google search – because they copied the article. But anyone can copy it. That has nothing to do with the source.
      That guy is just desperate for excuses.

      For example, in the very next line I link to a serious historian:
      “Oh here’s to Adolph Hitler”? The IRA and the Nazis, Brian Hanley, History Ireland Vol. 13 No. 3, May/June 2005.
      I even provide a link to the text, but he ignores that, and pretends criticism of the IRA could only come from Stormfront and Wikipedia.
      Completely dishonest.

      “Ru Ni Digs” claims some IRA leaders did not support the alliance with the Nazis. Rubbish.
      Every Chief-of-Staff of the IRA from 1938 to 1945 was a Nazi collaborator.
      Links with Nazi Germany started before the war and continued until Germany lost.
      In 1938 to 1945, the IRA openly praised the Nazis, ran safe houses for Nazis, helped Nazi intelligence, planned a Nazi invasion, and helped Nazi bombing.
      Every IRA leader supported this policy.
      If “Ru Ni Digs” claims some IRA leader broke with policy and did not support the alliance with the Nazis, I think it’s up to him to provide proof of this extraordinary claim.

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    • KEVIN.N 20/02/13 #

      @Ru Ni Digs – Mr. Humphrys response to you.
      Updated: http://markhumphrys.com/sfira.tyranny.html#ww2.people

      I see one of them accuses me of using Stormfront as a source!

      He is referring – incredibly – to this article:
      “I helped Hitler bomb Belfast”, says IRA man, Jacqui Thornton, Daily Telegraph, October 12, 1997.

      This is in the Daily Telegraph!
      It’s not free online, so I linked to a Google search for it.
      It just happens that Stormfront turns up in the Google search – because they copied the article. But anyone can copy it. That has nothing to do with the source.
      That guy is just desperate for excuses.

      For example, in the very next line I link to a serious historian:
      “Oh here’s to Adolph Hitler”? The IRA and the Nazis, Brian Hanley, History Ireland Vol. 13 No. 3, May/June 2005.
      I even provide a link to the text, but he ignores that, and pretends criticism of the IRA could only come from Stormfront and Wikipedia.
      Completely dishonest.

      “Ru Ni Digs” claims some IRA leaders did not support the alliance with the Nazis. Rubbish.
      Every Chief-of-Staff of the IRA from 1938 to 1945 was a Nazi collaborator.
      Links with Nazi Germany started before the war and continued until Germany lost.
      In 1938 to 1945, the IRA openly praised the Nazis, ran safe houses for Nazis, helped Nazi intelligence, planned a Nazi invasion, and helped Nazi bombing.
      Every IRA leader supported this policy.
      If “Ru Ni Digs” claims some IRA leader broke with policy and did not support the alliance with the Nazis, I think it’s up to him to provide proof of this extraordinary claim.

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    • KEVIN.N 20/02/13 #

      @Ru Ni Digs – Mr. Humphrys response to you.
      Updated: http://markhumphrys.com/sfira.tyranny.html#ww2.people

      I see one of them accuses me of using Stormfront as a source!

      He is referring – incredibly – to this article:
      “I helped Hitler bomb Belfast”, says IRA man, Jacqui Thornton, Daily Telegraph, October 12, 1997.

      This is in the Daily Telegraph!
      It’s not free online, so I linked to a Google search for it.
      It just happens that Stormfront turns up in the Google search – because they copied the article. But anyone can copy it. That has nothing to do with the source.
      That guy is just desperate for excuses.

      For example, in the very next line I link to a serious historian:
      “Oh here’s to Adolph Hitler”? The IRA and the Nazis, Brian Hanley, History Ireland Vol. 13 No. 3, May/June 2005.
      I even provide a link to the text, but he ignores that, and pretends criticism of the IRA could only come from Stormfront and Wikipedia.
      Completely dishonest.

      “Ru Ni Digs” claims some IRA leaders did not support the alliance with the Nazis. Rubbish.
      Every Chief-of-Staff of the IRA from 1938 to 1945 was a Nazi collaborator.
      Links with Nazi Germany started before the war and continued until Germany lost.
      In 1938 to 1945, the IRA openly praised the Nazis, ran safe houses for Nazis, helped Nazi intelligence, planned a Nazi invasion, and helped Nazi bombing.
      Every IRA leader supported this policy.
      If “Ru Ni Digs” claims some IRA leader broke with policy and did not support the alliance with the Nazis, I think it’s up to him to provide proof of this extraordinary claim.

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    • KEVIN.N 20/02/13 #

      @Ru Ni Digs – Mr. Humphrys response to you.
      Updated: http://markhumphrys.com/sfira.tyranny.html#ww2.people

      I see one of them accuses me of using Stormfront as a source!

      He is referring – incredibly – to this article:
      “I helped Hitler bomb Belfast”, says IRA man, Jacqui Thornton, Daily Telegraph, October 12, 1997.

      This is in the Daily Telegraph!
      It’s not free online, so I linked to a Google search for it.
      It just happens that Stormfront turns up in the Google search – because they copied the article. But anyone can copy it. That has nothing to do with the source.
      That guy is just desperate for excuses.

      For example, in the very next line I link to a serious historian:
      “Oh here’s to Adolph Hitler”? The IRA and the Nazis, Brian Hanley, History Ireland Vol. 13 No. 3, May/June 2005.
      I even provide a link to the text, but he ignores that, and pretends criticism of the IRA could only come from Stormfront and Wikipedia.
      Completely dishonest.

      “Ru Ni Digs” claims some IRA leaders did not support the alliance with the Nazis. Rubbish.
      Every Chief-of-Staff of the IRA from 1938 to 1945 was a Nazi collaborator.
      Links with Nazi Germany started before the war and continued until Germany lost.
      In 1938 to 1945, the IRA openly praised the Nazis, ran safe houses for Nazis, helped Nazi intelligence, planned a Nazi invasion, and helped Nazi bombing.
      Every IRA leader supported this policy.
      If “Ru Ni Digs” claims some IRA leader broke with policy and did not support the alliance with the Nazis, I think it’s up to him to provide proof of this extraordinary claim.

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    • Hitler wasn’t d greatest murderer in history,not even close. Not even during world war 2. Ull find dat Stalin had more people killed. Dis is in no way a defence of any kind of Nazism BTW. I’m a supporter of antifa nd any1 tryin 2stop any rise of fascism anywhere. Jus feel d need 2point out historical inaccuracy..

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  • Dangerous times in Europe with these bloody fascists spreading their hate filled bile. We should be vigilant in Ireland to keep this kind of politics at bay as people look around for alternatives to the current political parties.

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    • Tommy C 17/02/13 #

      None of our political parties have a decent immigration policy.
      We allow anyone in and then we allow people to appeal deportation orders over and over again at a cost of millions to us! No one in Ireland will tackle this issue.

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  • What’s the matter “Ru Ni Digs” ? Cat got your tongue?

    I’m looking forward to you explaining how the wartime Chiefs-of-Staff of the IRA actually opposed the IRA policy of collaboration with Nazi Germany that was agreed at the IRA Army Council on 20 Apr 1942.

    Looking forward to you explaining how Seamus O’Donovan did not shelter Hermann Goertz at his house. How IRA recon was not given to the Luftwaffe. How Caitlín Brugha did not shelter Gunther Schuetz at her house. How Dan Breen did not weep when Hitler died. How Paddy Devlin and comrades never cheered news of Nazi battle victories. How Sean MacBride did not work for the Nazi embassy. How the IRA never proposed to their allies the Nazis that they invade Northern Ireland.

    http://markhumphrys.com/sfira.nazis.html

    Can’t wait to hear you prove this is all untrue.

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  • Yeah and Michael Collins was in he IRA and de Valera sent his condolences to the Germans after Hitler’s death. All of this being of course ancient history.

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  • Niall F 16/02/13 #

    Sf supported ze reich and that’s that. Stop being pussies and come out and say it.

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