Is that not what their doing?

No it’s a new line with a new tram going from Stephens Green, the lack of any semblance of logic is astounding

Wait wait wait. Hang on. You mean a person could not get on at Dundrum and travel to the new DIT campus (as as an example) without changing at SG to another tram? WTF? There is more than enough room there to extend the green line. This doesn’t make any sense.

As far as I understand from the literature I’ve read this unbelievably is the case, I agree that it makes no sense whatsoever!

Incorrect. It is an extension of the Green Line. Trams will be able to run Broombridge-Brides Glen.

why are you make such a drastic assumption? take it easy man.

There are a few people who comment on the journal who have from what it looks like a hatred of Dublin if that’s what you are referring to.

If you mean by how Ireland is in the stone age, I actually emigrated 2 years ago to the continent so I see every day the comparison between Dublin and the major cities in Europe.

Because of the amount of anti-Dub comments on here Aidan. Any news on this website about Dublin about transport to the weather gets bombarded with anti Dublin comments from people from around the country.

Being abroad is all the more reason to be mindful of assumptions because the only view you have on Ireland is looking at the media, chatting with some friends

And being abroad, you should portray positivity about Ireland, even if you dont fully beleive it, as it is your homeland, and you’ll be back one day. Careful you don’t come back with a continental chip on your shoulder.

i like Dublin but the “Dubliner” is the problem

Peter you just proved my point, Dubliners make Dublin the great city it is. Your anti comments are very sad…. Love your capital & people the biggest draw for tourists, Dublin is the destination for them. The vast majority of tourists to ireland visit the country because of Dublin, be grateful………

What is even more sad for you Peter is your twitter page says Dublin……Obviously you are not a Dubliner with the comment you just left…….

This is not an alternative.

The Interconnector is a completely separate project and it was always planned to link these lines up.

The begrudgery here is unreal.

Ian it is an alternative, get your facts right. My family live in Dublin 15, as did I during the boom and the capacity of the line is severely restricted with the bottle neck in Connolly. The interconnector would have alleviated this and connected both sides of
The city adding real heavy rail capacity. The west of the city for its size and population is very poorly served in contrast to other parts of the city ad this is a cheap alternative to something that would make a real difference.

If prosperity returns and we experience the volumes of people using trains etc like we had during the Celtic tiger we are left with the same capacity issues. There are 4 Luas carriages, sizeably smaller then a heavy train capable of carrying more. It’s worse then building a Luas line on the Harcourt street branch. That was a ready made line that could easily have been used for DARTs etc that would have massively increased he number of passengers carried. Shoddy planning.

Welcome the fact it’s being built but it’s a cheap option to placate people living on the Maynooth line.

The interconnector is a separate project for sure but is shelved despite a railway planning order sitting on the ministers desk. There is no way that will go ahead now after this. Joke

Mark, you are wrong.

Look at transport 21 plan This line was always planned to be built alongside the interconnector. It wasn’t a choice of one or the other. That’s my point.

Now with the recession they have to make cuts.

All well and good criticising but if the money’s not there to build an interconnector then it’s not there.

Ian yes the link to Stephens green was originally part of transport 21 but the the offshoot to broom bridge to connect with the maynooth line is only a recent fixture.

The money is not there as the French and Germans wouldnt have us spending that cash on a capital project but it’s a shame given the jobs it would create and it’s longer term value.

I’m personally just p*ssed off, as I feel my side of Dublin was badly sered by FF during the boom while they built everything to serve the south side mainly similar to when they built the DART.

I live in London and despite it not being the worlds best it’s so easy to get anywhere in the city. I’d love to have that at home as I’d like to move back some time. My grandfathers family all worked in CIE and even as a child I recall him berating the shortsightedness of the planning of our rail network. Nothing’s changed in my opinion.

Right there is why the first poster seems hypocritical.

Agreed, I think we’re one of the few country’s in europe that do not have a proper railway/tram line from our capitals airport to the city centre.

There is no business case for a route to the airport by itself. The passengers just aren’t there for it. Certainly serve the airport as part of a bigger route but even when you look at the flawed Metro North project it wasn’t even connecting with the main national rail and bus terminii – Dublin airport is a national airport. Express Bus services are the still the best way to serve the airport at present.

Brian stick to drinking tea! Clueless!

Personally I think the capital will develop and work more efficiently with a tram/rail system in place connecting the city and the Airport. This could connect Connolly station and the other luas lines.

Linking the green line and the red line is going to be a nightmare in the oldest and most developed part of the city and the money chould be used for something more useful.

Brian, 34 million people a year would use the line, the line would connect up with both Luas lines, connecting rail & bus terminals. Dart underground would also connect with Luas and metro north. Both these projects should be built for Dublin, they are badly needed. Thousands of jobs would be created. The line is planned to go beyond the airport. The government could apply for money from the European Investment bank for these projects. Loans will not be added to a countries sovereign debt. Many countries in europe received money from the E.I.B for rail projects in London, Paris & Stockholm.

Brian Daly, last year 18.7million people went in and out of Dublin Airport. It ranks number 25 on the list of the 100 busiest Airports in Europe, that’s a 2011 statistic.

In fact it is No.25 in the world by volume International traffic.

Seeing as this link should have been built from the start, better for this first rather than the extension on the green line.

I couldn’t disagree more.

Although my stance may not be entirely selfless.

Agree, any decent city has a fast access to airport. Not in this country though,they probably want to stop people having easy way of leaving

Imagine having public transport where people live.

The airport is very easy to get to….would be nice to have a train/tram option but not entirely necessary.

I think it’s more for visitors.

You get to the airport for the first time and …

You jump on the convenient trams and are whisked into the city

Or

You queue for a taxi and pay 40 euros to visit the ‘burbs of Finglas.

Or

You get on a bus and end up at the faceless and unpleasant Busaras with barely a clue as to where you go next.

Yes, I found this using a brilliant tool called google:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luas#Planned_extensions

The messing on/at the luas is mainly down to the fact that people can get away with it.
In France the SNCF police are big burly, they’re armed and have dogs countrywide not just in urban areas. Its a visual deterrent which Im sure is there because they are sometimes needed.
My point is while this level isn’t needed across Ireland right now a more robust police/security presence on transport (and in general) in the capital would make everyone feel much safer.

Just float Dublin out into the sea

I think what’s needed to sort that problem out is a review of the free travel scheme and maybe less methadone clinics in the city centre

Dean it’s called online shopping

Dermot, that’s not one bit funny. I’m terrified at some of those stops. Rehabilitation clearly doesn’t work. They’re lost already in society, they’re not worth saving…

Rehab worked for Amy . Oh wait

What’s your solution dean, have a crap infrastructure so junkies can’t get around!?

Dermot Bland, take a bow, son

It’s the new bridge they’re building next to O’Connell St. Bridge

Tone down on the exaggeration there mate.

A couple of stops for a pre-existing transport network isn’t going to cost billions. It’s a few million which was already set aside plus financial assistance from the EU and Veolia. Small change in the grand scheme of the overall budget.

Besides if you payed much attention you’ll notice that other major construction projects were shelved which were to be built alongside this. So the infrastructure upgrade project for Dublin has taken a much higher % cut compared to education and healthcare.

Let’s hope for improvement instead, as a Luas/train link.