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Dublin: 8 °C Tuesday 18 June, 2013

Magdalenes hope for an apology after a long fight

According to one survivors’ group, Tuesday offers an opportunity to the Government to do “the right thing”.

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A BASIC CENTRAL heating system for a terraced house, an extra €20 per week to her pension, a few extra bob for Christmas or enough for a burial on sacred land in the US: this is a partial snapshot of the wishlist of survivors of the Magdalen Laundries.

Rendered infamous through a film and several songs, the institutions were used throughout the 20th century as places to house women, often known as “problem girls”, affected by pregnancy outside marriage, poverty and crime.

Next week, the level of State involvment in the incarceration of thousands of women and girls will be examined, not by cultural forces, but by Government for the first time.

Senator Martin McAleese has sent his hefty report establishing the facts to Justice Minister Alan Shatter, who will publish it in full on Tuesday following a Cabinet meeting.

The long-awaited report has been delayed multiple times since the inter-departmental committee was established in response to a recommendation from the United Nations Committee Against Torture (UNCAT). That body said it was “gravely concerned” at the failure of the State to protect girls and women who were involuntarily confined between 1922 and 1996.

The delays have just added to the waiting game.

Survivors of the Magdalen Laundries were not included in the Ryan Inquiry and their stories were omitted from the subsequent report and redress board. Tuesday will mark the first day the voices of the 30,000 women will be heard. It comes after the four congregations – the Good Shepherds, Sisters of Mercy, Sisters of Charity and Our Sisters of Our Lady of Charity – which operated the institutions agreed to cooperate with an investigation.

An official apology, and some form of payment of the wages withheld from the women working in the laundries, is being demanded by advocacy groups.

“These women have been made to wait longer than anyone for justice,” Claire McGettrick of the Justice for Magdalenes (JFM) campaign told TheJournal.ie in a recent interview.

Everyone in their heart and soul believes an apology should happen. It is actually unthinkable that it wouldn’t.

But the elephant in the room is money.

“In March, we’re supposed to be paying €3.1 billion into a failed bank,” continued McGettrick’s colleague, Dr Katherine O’Donnell. “You think, how come it is OK to pay off that and it’s not OK to honour a real debt?”

The demands and expectations of the few survivors – many of the tens of thousands of women who lived in the laundries are now deceased – are low, according to JFM.

For O’Donnell and McGettrick, who have spent three and 10 spent years respectively working with survivors, the best case scenario on Tuesday would include a speech from Enda Kenny, akin to his famous, landmark speech to the Vatican in July 2011.

In that best case scenario, such an apology would come with a raft of urgently-needed services for survivors, including a helpline, housing and healthcare, and a proper, transparent public compensation scheme.

“My dread is that the right thing won’t be done and that an apology won’t be made,” reveals O’Donnell. “And the efforts to support the women and the services they need critically now [won't be put in place]. We’ve implored Minister [of State] Kathleen Lynch for a helpline that hasn’t been put in place. That could have been put in place before now. There are services that are urgently needed by these women. These are women, again, vulnerable women who are in urgent need.”

It is still unclear how many survivors of the Magdalen Laundries are still alive today.

“There is a particular stigma attached to the Magdalen Laundries,” explains O’Donnell. “People think you were a prostitute or that you were an unmarried mother – but most women don’t fall into that category. It is a sexual shame as well. And for women of that generation, that is the worst kind of stigma and shame.”

JFM believe an official apology will allow more victims to come forward to tell their stories as it will break the taboo.

“If there is an apology, a lot more women will feel it is OK. It will be told that what happened to them was wrong,” says McGettrick.

The group’s submission to McAleese’s committee included 800 pages of testimony and 4,000 pages of archival evidence which it says provides proof that the State was involved in the system in a variety of ways.

This included committing girls and women to the institutions through mother-and-baby homes, through industrial schools and as an alternative to the female borstal.

“We’ve shown that they kept all of the women in there – regardless of how they entered – by using the forces of An Garda Síochána,” continued O’Donnell.

One survivor recounts:

Well, I went out the gate and I was just about to run down Griffith Avenue when the next thing I saw…the police were behind me…and they brought me back, they said because I was in the [Laundry] uniform…They said “are you Attracta?” and I said…”yes”…And they said “where do you think you’re going?” And I said, “out”…”To look for somewhere better to live”…And they said “no, you’re coming back with us, because High Park has rung us and told us that you’d run out”. And before I’d got anywhere they were there on the spot, and brought me back in…I told the police – I said to the police, because the Garda did say to me when I came out, “why did you run away?”. I said, “because they’re cutting my hair and putting me in a hole all the time…And I said to him, I said, “and I don’t like what they’re doing to me”.

The State also provided the congregations operating the institutions with lucrative contracts.

“They knew they were failing in legislative terms, in not implementing fair wage clauses. They did not apply the factories act or basic social welfare, as they did not make sure the women’s pensions were paid. The State is involved…I really can’t see McAleese finding it any other way.”

McGettrick adds, “These women were locked in and not paid but are still forced to bear the stigma, afraid to speak out.”

“Putting a modern context to it, we see stories of people deprived of wages today – like at Vita Cortex – and there are sit-ins.”

The Government has an opportunity here, according to O’Donnell.

This is a good chance for them to do the right thing. They can be proud of doing something right.

“The State needs to take the lead here. We’re going to have to deal with this very recent trauma and the incarceration of Irish people, in general. Everyone knew someone who was incarcerated in some form. This issue is very close to us and we really have to understand what happened.”

And there is a warning if the best case scenario isn’t fulfilled next week.

“This will be an international news story if the State do not apologise. We have the EU presidency, a place on the UN Human Rights Commission and evidence of State complicity of systematic abuse. They have to take lead because it’s not going away, it’s going to keep niggling.”

If Tuesday brings the worst case scenario, the long fight for justice continues.

“These women are incredibly resilient. A lot of them are impoverished, ill and ageing but they have survived something most people could not even imagine,” concludes O’Donnell.

“I am beginning to understand how humans survive successfully…so part of what is energising me is honouring them. They deserve that because of how they survived what they have survived, with the grace they have.”

Through UCD’s Women’s Studies Centre, O’Donnell and McGettrick have started work on an oral history project on the Magdalen Laundries with the aid of an Irish Research Council grant. They are seeking interviewees who have first-hand accounts of direct or indirect experiences of the sytem with the objective of “contributing to a better understanding of the Magdalen Laundries”. Categories of interviewees sought include survivors, relatives, members of Religious Orders, regular visitors to the institutions any anyone else who has a memory to share.

Those interested in being interviewed for the project can contact 01 716 7804 or email katherine.odonnell@ucd.ie

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Comments (38 Comments)

  • The state has let down a whole generation of men an women. Anyone who was at the hands of religious orders. The abuse, the stripping of basic human rights to be free, to be mothers, to the right of speech, the right not yo be tortured. It angers me that these nuns where devoted to god and were responsible for such tortured crimes. Stand up and apologies. These women deserved to be validated and heard.

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  • I thank the Journal, all of you here commenting (understanding the wrong that has been perpetrated) and our many supporters for your invaluable help over these last ten years. We at Justice for Magdalene deeply appreciate it, as we head down what we hope will be the final homestretch. But if the government does not do what is right, stand up and apologise to these women and immediately call for full restorative justice, rest assured, we will not stop.

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  • Haven’t these women been through enough? You’d need to be made of stone not to be moved by those accounts. I hope the Church and the State finally acknowledge these women and compensate them. Its the very least we can do for them and their families after all they went through.

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  • This country has been cursed by twisted individuals using institutions that people were tricked into trusting.4.7 MILLION PEOPLE and this is our heritage i for one am sick of the evil that is forced upon the Irish people through the cloak of secrets and cover ups by politicians gardai church the bastions of power who demand respect but show none themselves for the people.Too many secrets by too many powerful people you’d ask yourself do you only get to the top job if you are prepared to go along with what seems to be a shadowy world that’s the power base in Ireland.

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  • The Irish State locked up more people in mental homes than The Soviet Union

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    • My granduncle was put into a mental home because he was a mental retard and danger to himself they told his parents.Parents argued he was a slow learner it turns out in the end he was dyslexic 9 yrs old by time the state finally realized he was’nt an evil child 20 yrs after the youngfella had gone mad and was intitutionalized and would no leave and died in there the trauma my family went through going into see him was tuff to look at.A big grey draconian place that the strongest mind would,nt survive for in a day nevermind a lifetime.That’s what the state did regularly to families .Twisted mindset it has.

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    • I knew a man who lived his life being abused in industrial school and then he was dumped in a mental hospital with criminally insane people – because there was nowhere else for him to go. He was told that he was the product of a rape and that he had been abandoned. His whole life he was treated like crap (until someone decided to help him). Our history in this country is pretty sick..

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  • And this comes days after a recommendation to government to open up institutions and put people with intellectual disabilities back in them. This kind if stuff gets me far more worked up than the banks and promissory notes and what have you.

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  • As far as I’m concerned the church perpetrated this crime and the state looked the other way. Most of the compensation should come from the Vatican rather than the tax payers…

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  • A perfect example of what horror the church will force upon people when allowed to do so.

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  • This is the true history of the Irish state this is the truth that should be exposed at every opportunity . It should be taught in schools the dangers of giving touch power to organised religion , But of course it will never happen because the same church controls our schools . I am grateful to the journal for its good works in continuing to expose and bring to the attention of the general public the injustices perpetrated against the most defenceless and vulnerable citizens of our country by corrupt religious and state institutions . Please keep up the good work.

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  • The Irish State abysmally failed in its duty to protect its citizens. I desperately hope that I am strong but the Irish Stare will continue to betray these victims. What happened is unbelievably. It was cruel and unmercifully beyond contemplation. What a failed and indecent Republic.

    We should not let the State off the hook but we also have to look at that cruel, obscene and malign institution, the institution of the Roman Catholic Church.

    The evil of that Church is almost unimaginable and still it’s zealot supporters hold sway over so many aspects of our society. The Roman Catholic Church is an abominable institution, predatory and evil in its influence, counter balanced to a limited degree by a few good and exceptional women and men, but largely and predominantly pernicious in its effect and devoid of conscience.

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    • Wasn’t Áras an Uachtaráin a ‘customer’ that the women washed linen for. Limerick Lace on display in the museum in that city was made by the women in the Magdalene Laundries. Church/State are guilty of inslavement of women.

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  • The evil that is the Catholic Church should be purged from this land. Some people may think its an extreme view, but its just my view. People will say there are some good people in the Church but to me there are none. These good people are still members of an organisation that continues to cover up abuse and, in my eyes, that makes them guilty by association. Their leaders try and do silence the “good” priests. I wish nothing but the continued decline of this increasingly irrelevant cult.

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  • A disgrace! I can remember these girls walking out with their heads down in my hometown in the 40/50s. No doubt the bankers will come first in the compensation stakes.

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  • It was appaling what was done to those small innocent children – they were left there to be systematically abused. It is so sad – the crimes that were committed, and the daily cruelty, degredation ,and hatred that was put upon these children. Of course they should get justice, in any humane society that must happen. If we can strike about pay cuts and banks, we should strike for an appology and compensation for these people – who no doubt are still bearing the indellible scars of their childhood. That is the very least the state can do to acknowledge it…….and the story above of the child actually manging to escape, and telling the Gard who found her that she was being put in a hole and abused – and he brought her back……It is truly the stuff of nightmares. I hope they can find some peace and inner happiness after such suffering.

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  • Last autumn I was passing the site of the Magdalene Laundry in Limerick. There is still a working laundry on the site. I didn’t expect that but like to see it as a reminder to the people of the incarceration of women there. As I passed I could hear hissing noises from inside and it was a very hot day. I can only imagine what it was like for the girls, who were slaving away.

    A few weeks later, I confronted the Good Shepherd Sisters. A nun washing her car told me “we imprisoned nobody”. We were beside a former Magdalene Laundry so it was a very chilling experience. I told her truth states otherwise and justice will prevail. As calm as could be she went back to washing her car in total denial.

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    • I do some work out in Drumcondra – out by High Park.. Had been going out there for a while before I realised that this was the site of a Magdalen Laundry – one where a load of unmarked graves was discovered..
      I don’t know for sure which building it was, my guess is the rather imposing one out behind Beech Lawn nursing home, which has something to do with the same order of nuns that ran the laundry.. It looks like a scary place..

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  • Meh 02/02/13 #

    Amazing that these women(nuns) were so cruel, I wonder sometimes if all women have the capability to enact such cruelty to other women and children. It flies in the face of what mainstream thinking in Women’s Studies suggests that all women are victims and never the oppressor or abuser.

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    • Google the Stanford Prison Experiment. It pretty well sums up what the psychological climate was in Magdalene Laundries and other incarcerative Irish institutions. Prison guards/”caregivers” in these institutions very quickly come to see their prisoners/charges as less than human, and debasement, torture, rape and abuse become easier to perpetrate when you’ve brainwashed yourself to believe the person standing before you isn’t a person at all.

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    • Meh 03/02/13 #

      Wow, so essentially if one gives themselves over to an idealogy or institutionalised thinking, they are likely candidates for becoming inhuman. Let’s hope society learns from these awful experiences and never lets one idealogy dominate the narrative no matter what.

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  • what about normal school run by catholic church when children went to school from there homes
    were slapped abused banged there heads when there was complaint it was covered up
    well Iknow it there should be compensation for day scholars too
    glad to see it all coming to top

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  • the way that these women were treated were crimes against humanity. their only crime being that they gave birth to a new life, without the support of family. The catholic church has so much to answer for all areas of abuse that it inflicted on the women. someone should be made accountable for this and realize the long lasting effect that was left on them by being abused, institutionalized, robbed of their autonomy, and basically their lives. Thank God that unmarried mothers today have some support out there, and giving birth to babies is no longer a crime if you are not married. These survivors need support and are at least owed a sincere apology, however nothing will make up for the abuse, mental and physical, that they suffered, including having their babies taken away like a possession and given to someone deemed more worthy.

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  • The catholic church ruled ireland for so long,doing immense damage,under dev;s leadership and compliance.May they pay in the after life.

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