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Brother of man shot in pub was killed three years ago

Image: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

Updated 13.30

THE 36-YEAR OLD shot dead at a pub in Finglas in the early hours of this morning has been named as local man Alan McNally.

The father-of-three from Finglas was gunned down in An Cappagh Nua pub on Barry Road at about 1am.

Investigating Gardaí told a press conference this lunchtime that a man entered the pub, singled out McNally and discharged several shots from a handgun.

The victim, who was shot in the head, was attended to at the scene and then taken to Connolly Memorial Hospital, where he later died.

The deceased man’s brother Graham McNally was shot dead in the area in January 2009. He was 34 years old at the time. Both brothers were known to Gardaí and it is understood that Alan McNally had recently been released from prison.

Following last night’s shooting, the gunman escaped the scene on foot towards Casement Close. Gardaí believe a second man may also have been involved.

The gunman is described as 6-foot-tall and well built. He was wearing a blue hooded top and black tracksuit bottoms when the incident occurred.

A second man who Gardaí believe may have been an accomplice in the murder did not enter the pub. He is described as 5′ 10″ tall and of slim build. He was wearing a white or grey tracksuit bottoms and a black hooded top.

The scene has been preserved for technical examinations and deputy State Pathologist Michael Curtis is to carry out a post mortem later today.

There were a number of people in the pub when the shooting occurred and investigators are working with them to build a better picture of what happened.

Gardaí have appealed for witnesses or anyone with information to come forward to assist the investigation. Finglas Garda Station can be contacted on 01 666 7500 or through the Garda Confidential line on 1800 666 111.

A number of lines of inquiry are being followed by Gardaí at Finglas Garda Station.

Flowers have been left outside An Cappagh Nua today. Image: Photocall Ireland

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  • jimbo 02/02/12 #
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    Gun crime sereously needs to be tackled and really tough penalties.

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  • Burned Toast 02/02/12 #
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    Sinead,

    Why was my comment removed? I referred to the point that the victim was allegedly a well-known drug dealer and suggested that society might be better of for his absence.

    Don’t be such a narrow-minded censor please.

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      You are right burnt toast if indeed he was a drug dealer then small loss. They destroy lives for their own gain.

    • Diego Attley 02/02/12 #
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      I bet the eight red thumbs would agree with you if it were their son/daughter walking around like a zombie.

    • Burned Toast 02/02/12 #
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      So Diego, we should tolerate and accept this behaviour then? Think of the druggie as a victim? Get real buddy.

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      I think Diego is on your side toast!!

    • Diego Attley 02/02/12 #
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      Was I not agreeing with you there? No I wouldn’t agree with shooting a heroin dealer but I would sympathise with parents of addicts that think they should. I preferably would have the dealers strung up and receive ten lashs for every ounce they are convicted of possessing.

    • Burned Toast 02/02/12 #
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      Sorry Diego – Mea culpa! I didn’t read your comment fully. Much apologies.

    • Thomas Mc Carthy 02/02/12 #
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      Drug dealers are usually drug addicts, who are normally victims too. There are no winners, and society is never better of when someone gets murdered no matter what they’ve done

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      Totally agree with you. One less scumbag in the world is hardly a loss is it?

    • Jay funk 02/02/12 #
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      @ magie so if your daughter in your picture grows up to be a smack head , then starts dealing to support her habit, then gets killed over her debts , you would be happy?

      Get real people this was someone’s dad, father, uncle etc…

    • Sinead O'Carroll 02/02/12 #
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      Hi Burned Toast,

      I removed the initial comment as our comments policy asks for commenters to not make personal remarks on the subject of a story – especially ones that could be seen to incite hatred or violence.

      Thanks,
      Sinead

    • Diego Attley 02/02/12 #
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      @Jay: That’s exactly why people don’t have much sympathy for the dealers when they killed because no one wants to see the next generation of young peoples lives destroyed with that filth.

    • Emsy wemsy 02/02/12 #
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      I think jay’s point was that that scumbag was once the younger generation and someone’s innocent baby. Either through choice,force or social pressure he became “that scumbag” . Don’t get me wrong,it’s always possible he was a nasty little ba***rd, but unless you knew him or what this was about then it’s all speculation and someone has lost their husband,father and son (possibly the only other son the parents had)

    • Diego Attley 02/02/12 #
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      True enough Emsy but that is all the reason more why the government should tackle the problem now by coming down hard on the dealers and even the users so future generations won’t have to put up with that misery. He was in jail for only five and a half years after being caught with €200,000 worth of heroin, hardly setting an example of tough sentensences for peddling death.

    • Emsy wemsy 02/02/12 #
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      Oh don’t get me wrong Diego,I agree that he should’ve been punished more for heroin dealing in such large quantities (just read that) and that he spent nowhere near the right amount of time in jail. However,everyone is saying he deserved in and good riddance and the like. I just think it’s a little harsh,none of us knew him or his family and I’m sure his family are suffering now. Both sides are wrong.
      Anyway,the whole point of my last comment was just to explain jays point….now I’ve gotten myself into a debate I didn’t want to be in ;) so I’ll say I half agree with you all,but he should’ve been punished correctly by the judge and not at the hands if another scumbag with a gun,anyone else could’ve caught a bullet

    • Michael 02/02/12 #
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      Isn’t it great for the drug dealers being able to afford to be out spending their “job seekers” or “dis’bility” allowance on pints of a Wednesday evening after a hard days graft! He wouldn’t have got the bullet if he was serving the sentence he should have been. Hazard of HIS chosen career.

  • Neil McRedmond 02/02/12 #
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    Well I hope when there tackling it that they don’t miss the fact that,guns don’t kill people,people kill people..I love shooting & I can just imagine some nutcase trying to bring in a stupid law,judging by what’s goin on recently with some politicians.

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    • Bilbo Baggins 02/02/12 #
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      Don’t you know neil they’s stiffen up Gun regulation like the idiots they are. As if these crimes are being comitted by registered Weapons like. Realistically Drugs are the issue. Many countries have problems in dealing with these issues. We on the other hand are an island. We only have about 6mil ppl on it and yet we still cant stop insane amounts of drugs getting in. How much does a springer cost?

    • Burned Toast 02/02/12 #
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      Problem is enforcement of the law. People who break the law should not be allowed to get away with it – something which begins with people who break red lights and ends with those who murder people. Unfortunately we do not have a culture of citizens obeying the law or police rigorously enforcing the law.

      Guns are a side issue. If they were all stabbing each other would we talk about banning kitchen knives?

    • Declan Carroll 02/02/12 #
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      The sentence starts & ends at the courts. It’s a Judge’s decision. Gardaí & Solicitors play their role in bringing a case to court. The Judge decides at the end of the day. If sentencing needs to be toughened up, our legislators & Govt need to address that to give Judges the ammo. Go to the courts any day & you will see the cases Gardaí bring. It must be frustrating bringing a burglar, for example, to court & have him/her walk away after conviction. I do agree with you on the culture of citizens, Burned Toast.

  • gingerman 02/02/12 #
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    Seems to be a hell of a lot of murders so far in 2012?. Anyone have an exact figure?

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  • Darren Parslow 02/02/12 #
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    As long as dealers are shooting dealers, let it continue! No innocents is only stipulation.

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    • Bryan Holmes 02/02/12 #
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      So it’s ok to shoot someone as long as you get the right person and don’t make a mistake, I’m sure Shane Geoghegan’s family wish this hit mans rules of engagement was in place in 2008

    • Darren Parslow 02/02/12 #
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      Well done Bryan, don’t read the full comment what ever you do!

    • Stephen Maher 02/02/12 #
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      The pity of it is that these weasels aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed.
      I mean, they’re not into what theyre into because they missed the points for medicine in Trinity. So, invariably innocents get killed and injured.
      Given the option, I’d load them all off to one of the blaskets and airlift in truckloads of machine guns and bullets and let the bastards at it!!
      No loss there.

    • Carlin Ite 02/02/12 #
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      So when they are not shooting each other the guns stay under the bedside locker and they are responsible citizens! They don’t threaten people in communities and make life very uncomfortable lot neighbors etc. Once they shoot each other their grand!

    • Nivag Yeoh 02/02/12 #
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      Do they come across to you as the type to stick to stipulations, Darren?

    • Nivag Yeoh 02/02/12 #
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      Doesn’t work that way in the real world, Darren. There’ll aways be innocents caught up at some stage or other if these scumbags are allowed to carry on the way they are.

  • Carlin Ite 02/02/12 #
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    Does Blanch have a special unit for gun shots wounds? There are closer hospitals to Finglas

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  • Bryan Holmes 02/02/12 #
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    It seems some people advocate death for those who inflict misery on society.
    Excellent, why not death for those responsible for the economic misery we are all experiencing at present?
    I wonder if more people took their own lives through stress than died of narcotics last year.

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  • Carlin Ite 02/02/12 #
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    It’s a pity the drug dealing scumbags don’t have a political agenda the government would be ordering the Garda to smash down doors and lock them.

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  • Jammy Mason 02/02/12 #
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    RIP to the deceased and condolences to his family.

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  • Danny Flynn 02/02/12 #
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    Legalise all drugs. If you want to take them go into a chemist, sign a form stating that you know the risks involved in drug taking, prove you are whatever age is agreed, and away you go. Revenue raised for the country, crime slashed, gun killing gone. And does using drugs no they will get regulated drugs

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    • Eugene O' Neill 02/02/12 #
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      Have to agree Danny.
      Drug’s are just as easy as children buying candy and we all know theirs nothing we can do about unless something new and bad is brought in because when one guy gets taking down another takes his place .
      This so called “war on drugs”has never made any impact.The spread of drug user’s and drug related murders are at all time high.Legalizing drug’s would obviously have legal and moral problems from who makes the drugs and how the money is spent.
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/9049006/Carlos-Fuentes-legalise-drugs-to-save-Mexico.html
      I think If every government(s) in the world got together and agreed on a common drug act from a UN funded company that makes the drug not a private company and all profits go back to drug consoling and support to each governments that supports the act.
      I know some people will think that I am mad writing this but look at O’Connell street on any giving day and see how the “war on drugs”is working?

    • Anthony O'Brien 02/02/12 #
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      @Danny Flynn “sign a form stating that you know the risks involved in drug taking”……….Which includes the possible stabbing/beating/rape of an innocent passerby while you’re out of your head ………..or walking in front of a car, falling asleep in someones doorway, I could go on. The risks aren’t confined to the user you know.

    • Eugene O' Neill 02/02/12 #
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      @Anthony
      I think Danny was only suggesting a solution to stop gangland killing and crime with drugs not the consequences of taking each drug.
      I don’t think people that never took drugs would be queuing up the first day if it was to be legalized.
      “Which includes the possible stabbing/beating/rape of an innocent passerby while you’re out of your head ………..or walking in front of a car, falling asleep in someones doorway, I could go on. The risks aren’t confined to the user you know.”
      Well that’s the point Anthony this is happening every day and will continue to until good think tanks and people with personal experience can come up with some ideas to stop people falling into the trap of drug abuse.
      What solution would you come up with?because what ever laws are in place now doesn’t seem to be working even with the Garda chasing drug dealers and community workers/helpers trying to help drug users.

    • Fizzy O'Terrapy 02/02/12 #
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      “Which includes the possible stabbing/beating/rape of an innocent passerby while you’re out of your head ………..or walking in front of a car, falling asleep in someones doorway, I could go on.”

      One word Anthony: Alcohol.

    • Nuffsaid Thatsall 02/02/12 #
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      @ Anthony — Stabbing, Raping falling in front of cars etc. Sure these things all happen when ppl are full to the gills on drink anyway!!

    • Anthony O'Brien 02/02/12 #
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      Two wrongs don’t make a right. We’re trying to get to grips with alcohol and the social effects of it. Making heroine,cocaine etc legal is hardly going in the right direction ( in my humble opinion). I totally understand there are huge difficulties with this, I just don’t agree that legalizing Class A drugs is a solution.

    • Eugene O' Neill 02/02/12 #
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      In my opinion Drug’s on the streets just like Hunger in Africa will always be here even when Iam long gone.Because its never dealt with in a proper way.

    • Tim Henchin 03/02/12 #
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      Whereever you are in Ireland draw a line on a map one mile from your home, and site down with your family and list out all the lives that alcohol has destroyed, then do the same for drugs. 95% of the country will have a list from Alcohol that will be many multiples of that of drugs.

      Prohibition of Alcohol didn’t work in the 20′s in America. Alcohol consumption went up, crime went up, corruption went up. Deaths from alcohol abuse went up.

      Countries that have legalized drugs and manage them in a way to limit damage have less problems. Holland gives heroin to addicts, on condition that they receive treatment. They way they look at it, it is cheaper to get an addict off it over the long term, than jail him at 100k cost per year, never mind countless crimes and theft, police paper work, then he gets in to jail, gets AIDS from a dirty needle, off to hospital in and out for years, no shortage of heroin in jail, so he comes outs an addict again.

      People need to decide do they want to be righteous or do they want to help solve the problem.

  • Irish Mule 02/02/12 #
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    Dreadful stuff two shootings overnight, unfortunately this sort of thing aint gonna get much better in the short term folks. With the current state of affairs this will become more common place in our society, nothing worse than telling the family of a murder victim their child/father/brother has been gunned down.

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  • Dylan Dublin 02/02/12 #
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    Gardai are enforcing the law but the judicial system is letting us down badly ! !
    The gardai need a better support system in place to assist them in their work .

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  • Chris Mcdonnell 02/02/12 #
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    If we stopped this bleeding heart crap that these people are victims and scumbags have rights. You give up your rights when you sell drugs. Anyone caught with a gun, a knife or other such weapon should be taken off the streets for a very long time.
    It’s time we stood up for the victims.

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  • On the Dole 02/02/12 #
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    And where are you going to lock them all up ?????

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  • Aranthos Faroth 02/02/12 #
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    Every murder is a shame, it’s a taint on society no matter who the victim was or what they did in life.

    However, having said that, I feel no sadness when I hear a drug dealer is murdered.

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  • TP 02/02/12 #
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    The McNallys…what a nice family.

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  • Bryan Holmes 02/02/12 #
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    If a criminal wears a tracksuit they deserve death,
    if they wear a suit they should be afforded their legal rights. ?????
    Until we apply the law equally in this country, people will continue to break it

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    • Diego Attley 02/02/12 #
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      To be fair, how was the man even on the street? He was only in jail for five and a half years for being caught with €200,000 worth of heroin.

  • Ronan Mc Namara 02/02/12 #
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    All the murders attempted murders in Finglas/Blanchardstown are just a refection on Irish society today just a total lack of respect for life, its gun law. Money and drugs before life. Sadly the murders will continue….

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  • Michael Fagan 03/02/12 #
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    What sort of society do we want in ireland ?
    When so many people here think its ok to walk into a pub and shoot a man in the head,
    Do we want to live in a civilized society, with law and order or du we want to live in a society where evil rules.
    We don’t leave this world to our children we borrow it from them.

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