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Oireachtas committee to scrutinise TDs’ new expenses regime

TheJournal.ie first reported in February how a tweak to the expenses system meant TDs could claim twice for some costs.

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AN ALL-PARTY COMMITTEE of TDs and Senators is to meet next week to discuss the impact of a little-known change made to the TDs’ expenses system in February which allows some members to be paid twice for the same bills.

The joint committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform is to scrutinise a statutory instrument signed by Brendan Howlin in January which added to the list of ways in which politicians are allowed to spend their Leinster House allowances.

The move – first reported by TheJournal.ie in February – mean that members are now allowed to use their Public Representation Allowance, the standard allowance paid to all members of the Dáil and Seanad, for expenses like public relations or secretarial support.

This is in addition to paying for utility bills in constituency offices, buying stationery, mobile phone bills and venue hire.

Independent TDs and Senators, however, were already paid a separate allowance – colloquially known as the ‘party leader’s allowance’ – which covered those expenses already.

And because the latter payment is not vouched – with the government recently blocking two Seanad moves to require independent TDs and Senators to vouch for how this allowance is spent – the system allows members to effectively claim some expenses on the double.

Independent TDs receive €41,152 each year under the allowance, while non-party Senators are given €23,383.

The national political spending watchdog, the Standards in Public Office Commission, has repeatedly called on governments to close the loophole and to require independent members of the Oireachtas to vouch for how the allowance is spent.

Ironically, the newly liberalised regime only impacted a handful of TDs or Senators – as records published by TheJournal.ie in February show that all but a handful of members were already claiming the maximum possible allowances.

The meeting, being held on Wednesday at 4:30pm, will also examine an order signed by Enda Kenny on the same date, January 31, which awarded an extra €17,205 allowance to junior housing minister Jan O’Sullivan after her promotion to cabinet.

The government defended that move by pointing out that ‘super-junior’ ministers have regularly been paid more than other junior ministers in light of their attendance at cabinet meetings.

Brendan Howlin will attend a later section of the meeting where members will discuss plans for new legislation to protect whistleblowers.

Read: Rules may allow independent TDs to be paid twice for same expenses

More: This is how much your TD claimed in expenses in 2011

Read: Here’s how much the Seanad received in expenses last year

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  • This country is run by a group of hungry, sponging, self important mé féiners. Allowances for this and allowances for that.

    When these people are regulating themselves, it’s just a monopoly.

    The don’t even have to vouch for these expenses.

    I recently applied for a medical card, and the amount of red tape and hurdles to jump, and paperwork to fill, annoyed me so much that I didn’t apply for it. I should be entitled to it automatically when I had no job and two kids to look after too, on my own.

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  • This should be easy, just scrap all expenses, there paid well enough. But there is not one of them with the gut to do the right thing.

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  • LAWLORD 13/04/12 #

    The lunatics are running the asylum!

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  • @Ann Reddin & Susie Chester

    Bloody awful. He waffles so much, that even he has forgotten what he was saying! He must have known about it, as we and journal.ie did. As for the other one, can’t think of his name, Labour TD, he was just pitiful, embarrassing, and very sad to see that the electorate pay his salary and expenses. The man couldn’t put two words together and worse he couldn’t answer V Browne’s questions. He just sat there, saying nothing.

    The editor of Inde papers had his hands on his head laughing, the lady on the panel was left with her mouth open, not believing what was happening. Shameful to see this individual in Government and can’t even do an interview, even try to answer the questions asked of him.

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    • @shiela .. This is also a major problem I am having, most of these thick f****s can’t string a sentence together, it’s like there reading the “manual” of ” hard to get out of questions” It was embarrassing watching that fat head lying in front of thousands and your right , the lady on his left( name escapes me) was gobsmacked, I say give it one more year and the place will light up…. They are busy squirrelling away there moola, knowing that there history in > 4 years time. Then another crowd of cronies come in with their 5 year ” squirrelling ” away plan…… We are the THICKEST shower of gombeens for taking this crap, we had a chance to show them the fingers but were buckling daily. Oh I despair.

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    • @ Dave,

      It’s just awful to have to listen to some them. Someone that came from the ‘hard knocks’ school of life, would speak with a much better flow of words and would speak from the heart like most of us. They haven’t a bloody clue. They are supposedly spending EUR1,000′s on PR companies and public speaking. My arse! One either has it, or hasn’t and I can tell you this, without fear of contradication, these so called overpaid politicians in the Dail haven’t got ‘it’, and never will!

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  • REMOVE THE GOVERNMENT REMOVE THE FINE TRAITOR GAEL
    FOR A IRELAND THAT WORKS

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  • I am so sick to death of our TD,s do they take us all for fools? Shoot the lot of them, scabbing of the backs of the hard working folk of the country. Biggest shower of leeches God I get so sick of their double talk and fake smiles. Please someone give me a gun!

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  • Fagan's 13/04/12 #

    Anything that can stop scum like M.Martin claiming 3000 euro’s for one night in a hotel or Ahern and his 250 euro’s a week in make up expenses is welcome.

    A proposal for a 30% cut in TD salaries and all expenses to be vouched is being put before the Dáil. Though not one member of FG/FF or Lab. has come out to support it.

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    • @Fagan’s

      Well, I think at this stage, there really is nothing else the ordinary, taxpayer, unfortunates on ‘jobseekers’ can do, except cause the biggest f . . king riots and marches on the street of every city in the country. Drag Howlin, his mates and Gilmore out onto the street and tell them it ain’t going to happen!

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  • A committee is not good enough – they need a top Quango to look into it for 3 years and report back when they are gone.

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  • A separate expense department should be created that is under the president so as to be some what impartial,

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    • Enough departments already. I prefer Martin Sinnott’s suggestion.

      “Government failure is always used as an excuse for government expansion. Government thrives on crisis and incompetence.”
      — Jim Babka

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  • They are public representatives, and as such, should get no more than the average industrial wage and have all expenses scrapped. Maybe then they would be “representative” of the public.

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  • Bit like Sinn Fein investigating the Northern Irish bank robbery

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  • We should pay their expenses in turf, oh no wait a minute. What about paying them with ink? Oh tgats already been done. Oh well,i suppose we’ll just sit back and let it all go over our heads. Then we’d be good little citizens wouldn’t we.

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  • They are allways picking on the OAPs Sick and Un employed calling them fiddlers but te real fiddlers and scammers are TDs and Senators.

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  • We tighten our belts while they line their pockets. Joke

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  • It’s like renewing your license to steal, didn’t realise it was an annual thing!

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  • Oughta be a law!

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