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@Tony Riordan: Good point. They have hypocrisy to an art form. But like a majority of pro choice advocates they have conveniently we sensitized themselves to the unborn needs, they advocate human rights but like many of those they have campaigned against they have assumed the pretentious right of determining what is human and what is not.
@Tony Riordan: doesnt talk away from the fact that every hypocrite on this thread would be on thecboat/plane to England if it were their daughter raped and pregnant and not wanting to carry it through. Or would you try and talk her out of it to appease your sky fairy?
@GerryCummins: No ‘sky fairies as you so ignorantly put it, but to follow one’s moral fortitude(that’s not a band name just in case you’re reaching for the dictionary)
@Maurice Bourke: In fairness China and the US are well up there too. The death penalty is an atrocious idea that has sadly gained traction in many parts of the world, even supposedly industrialised/sophisticated nations.
@Cameron O’Toole: Because the state, representing the people, should not put itself on the same moral level as the murderers through premeditated killing of defenceless prisoners.
@Brendan O’Brien: I do not know who is worse, the pro-life or the pro-choice people. The referendum gives special provision to one section of society to take away life which is effectively capital punishment for the crime of inconvenience but the same people won’t extend it to all society where the danger in life being taken away (murder) is not met with capital punishment.
Premeditated murder is simply the willful taking away of life so applying the willful taking away of life in the womb through State sanction is meant to serve as a legal blindspot based on entitlement.
The pro-choice crowd are what they are but the pro-life people present such weak opposition as they are comfortable with pro-life vs pro-choice in medical terms instead of legal entitlements.
If you take away the human rights of alleged killers, you’re taking away the human rights of so many wrongly imprisoned for these horrible crimes.
Just remind yourself that you’re OK with a system where the state could convict you for a capital offence based on faulty evidence, and that your system would mean that your own human rights were then forfeited.
The death penalty is 100% wrong and always will be because of the frightening number of innocent people who are wrongly executed and put on death row.
I hope whoever ordered these death sentences recognised the need for gender equality and at least as many women and minorities were offered the chance to be executed as white men.
And these are just the legally sanctioned executions, we can add the vigilante and extremist executions/murders/gang attacks in countries like India and Indonesia, Tanzania etc. to the death toll list…
If we had the death penalty here it would save many lives and all the tax money spent on all these murderers, paedophiles, psychos, and rapists in the prison system. Justice isn’t done unless it’s life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth.
@Ireland Needs God: True enough. Imagine if they had just put a bullet in the skull of each of the Birmingham Six et al? All that money in trials and inquiries and TV time etc. that would have been saved. I’m sure God would agree with you on that one.
@Jim Hartnett: What I would advocate for is that the death penalty should be carried out only in situations where someone’s guilt is beyond reasonable doubt.
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