Bye, bye IFSC, microsoft, google etc. if he gets his way on tax harmonisation..

An election year coming up political posturing from Sarky. Hopefully the French people kick him out.

We need to rethink the organisation of Europe? Okay, how about a Europe where France and Germany stop telling everyone else what to do? I can only speak for myself but I’d much rather a less prosperous EU if it meant all members were treated more fairly. And he’s back on about the tax thing again…?

Referendum will happen and we’ll be offered a reduced debt burden but will have to take tax harmonization and tighter fiscal control.

I say, tell them to get stuffed. Default on all bank debt. Devalue so we become competitive again and trade our way out of this mess.

Our biggest ‘customers’ are the US and the UK. They are our friends and will continue to buy from us, especially if we are cheaper.

Germans and French unveiling their plans to take over Europe. They now want a three tier Europe it seems ‘France and Germany at it’s heart’. What? Like the Romans? Where all serve Rome as vassal States. We need a major rethink alright… Of our association with the EU. We went in on the basis of one country one vote. Now look at the deal!!

I think European countries will be told shite or get off the bucket..change is coming and it’s a case of how much balls Ireland has in a game of Russian roulette…brace yourself lads/lassies there’s rougher times coming

Bear in mind that this was a speech to launch his re-election campaign and should be given as much credence as Gilmore’s “Labours way or Frankfurts way” speech or Verucas “not a cent more into the banks” etc etc

Subsection 4 of the Lisbon Treaty:… “4° Ireland affirms its commitment to the European Union within which the Member States of that Union work together to promote peace, shared values and the well-being of their peoples.”
Now somebody explain how Impoverishing the Nations People is in the interest of “the well-being of their peoples”

The only thing Sarky didn’t say was there will be a ruling Franco/German elite with the rest of Europe being the underlings.Good luck with a ref on that one Enda.As for Gilmores thoughts on a ref he has proved he cannot be trusted wikileaks anyone

Bless, he still thinks he has control in Europe.

anyone remember the promise from the Lisbon treaty ? more jobs etc wouldn’t trust Germany or France pair of dictators………..

Sarkosy= monstrous failure

re corporation tax.frances underlying rate is actually lower than ours..a number of years back we had a tax regime for MNCs etc that was high with more loopholes than a politicians promise. our govt then reformed it and got rid of loopholes..put rate at 12%.. france on the other hand is still levelling artifivially high gross rate but companies in reality actually pay net 8-9% less than us. sarkozy is a hypocrite on this topic. however..for euro to succeed it requires closef fiscal union..but can small countries like ours get a fair deal? uk stayed out..so too did denmark..we have loads in common with uk..and when i was in school..geography studies showed me ireland was very similar to denmark..population agriculture etc…we are in for better or worse now..but if it fails..peg punt to sterling

One word! NO

Sunday’s like we’re going to have another referendum……and then another one when they don’t like the answer to the first!

One word – Iceland

Couldn’t have put it better my self!

You mean we should go back to our irish pound….that will make more sense……

Just because its our only choice doesnt make it the right one we would be a small voice in a crowded room.
Id give it till our next general election before the whole arrangement fell apart.
Would it be possible to take back our oceans / fisheries, export as much of our agricultural products ect if we left?

Ah Sarkozy on about tax harmonization again is like a broken record. They tried that in Maastrict and failed. They were lucky to get the tripple qualified majority voting lark tidied up in Amsterdam or Maastrict(can’t remember). It made no difference because we need to vote on it. Sarkozy will live to regret his stance on this. They may go ahead with a rushed treaty but it won’t include tax harmonization. It would never get accepted. However, I feel having Europe watch over our budget is not a bad thing at all within a federal Euroland when you consider the ill guided mess progressive government have made of it on their own.

Losing all Multinationals (euro) OR extremely devalued currency (punt)..

Fun times in Ireland comin’ round the twist..

Maybe it should be that we rethink the euro to save Europe rather than the other way round

Exactly!

Who said “refound”? Is that even a word? It sounds a lot like founder. As in, sink without trace.

The man is looking for re-election so he’ll say anything (like all Politicians)

I’m just amazed at how brash they are (well, not really). France hasn’t balanced its budget since the 70s yet there he stands, on his elevated soap box, preaching to everyone else.

Bull and bluster.

Time to jump off this sinking ship before it’s too late. Bring back the punt! Default on all non sovereign debt. Tough it out for a few years, and use the incredible capable Irish public to rise again.

“The great appear great because we are on our knees: Let us rise.”

This was foretold a long time ago and every crisis is being used to bring us down the road of total control. That of course raises the question, was this crisis engineered or did it just happen?
I believe it didn’t just happen.

Interestingly, he also said:
“A new economic cycle of debt reduction was beginning”, and:
“The extravagant growth of the financial sector has placed the economy under the exclusive domination of the logic of speculation”.
Fancy that – proposing a solution to a debt crisis that doesn’t involve getting more debt!
That’s the first sense I’ve heard from a politician since this whole ‘crisis’ began!

The eu project has failed, as has the euro experiment. Suck it up, admit the failure, and let everyone salvage what they can.

He’s not wrong you know.

Brendan Keenan put it well yesterday in The Independent when he said “…the Euro is a currency without a Government”. For the European project to succeed, of course there will need to be further integration. We’re a very small nation and we need to decide whether we’re better off in or out.

In relation to MNC’s pulling out due to EU tax harmonisation, our new Government need to understand very quickly that, just like the property bubble, you can’t rely on one source of income (or in this case, large-scale employment). We need to encourage indigenous entrepreneurship and continue to invest in technology, agriculture, manufacturing and tourism.

We have a lot to offer. Can we still offer it if we exclude ourselves from Europe and the Euro?

If a new Punt was to be worth a fraction of the Euro, say 25%, the price of the pint would be a pound, you’d pickup a small house for around IR£25,000. It’d be like we were back in the early 80s. We even have the dole queues to go with it.

All the Kings Horses and All the King’s Men couldn’t put Humpty together again.

27 (or 17 in the eurozone) countries with different ethnic groups, different cultures, different languages, different fears and aspirations could never form a full federation. At least not democratically.

The sh*tty little peninsula that is Europe is sinking like the Titanic. And the band is playing ‘Ode to Joy’.

Its not just Henry who has their hands on everything….typical French… Bring back the punt in six months we all be converting it for a sun holiday like the good ol days…

No froggy. You just need to run

A return to the pound. And not the punt , the pound. A close trade and monetary relationship with the UK is where we need to be IMO. Might not be ideal but we have far more in common with London than Berlin and Paris.

Of coarse this was all engineered, every few days rating agencies come out with some bullshit about how bad a countries credit rating is & need to be down graded. This is all speculation & is all part of a tactical plan for the bigger countries to gain more control. If everyone stopped acting irrationally & just ignored these guys, things would get move along & gradually everything would get paid.

Where’s my comment gone?