War in the middle east us never about human rights or spreading democracy, it’s about power, influence and resources. The Russians and Chinese do not want Syria to become another ” alllied state” of the USA.

Reserve a space here for the “America won’t go in because Syria doesn’t have any oil” comments. People are so quick to point out that they don’t believe the government drivel put out by the media like they want a medal or something. Sometimes people really do rise up out of their own will.

The FSA is being supported by Al Qaeda but wouldn’t you accept help from outside if you were a rebel fight

*fighting an organised military.

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Hey you can wear your tinfoil helmet, and volunteer for the NATO army and be the first person on your block to be sent home in a box from a pointless war

and you actually think voting is some great aspect of our lives ? Do you think democrats or republicans rule the US ? Electronic voting ? Yeah right……military industrial complex runs the US and the federal reserve…..Andrew you are very naive my friend…

@ Peter. Fighting for your rights is never pointless. And certainly never when you’re fighting for the right of your family to live free from the terror of a despotic murderous and torturing regime. Not that any of you keyboard warriors of love and light would know about such things, safe as you are in the protected civility of the Western world that you all love to decry so much. Eaten bread is soon forgotten, tis true, tis true.

@ Johnathon. And you are very paranoid, my friend.

@andrew very paranoid ? Who owns the Federal Reserve ? You would think the American people right ? No , privately owned and they print America’s own money and charge them interest on that money…..How money has the military Industrial Complex made out of wars based on lies Andrew ? And you are calling me paranoid, the proof is in the eating of the pudding as they say……

I didn’t realise that Cyprus and UAE are puppets of the US.
Just saying like…..

It must be true….It’s off the Russian state news website….Like their not biased…!!!!

The BBC is state news too

More trash from Russia Today. Der Spiegel actually went to the trouble of looking into the Houla massacre: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/a-look-back-at-the-houla-massacre-in-syria-a-845854.html Turns out that contrary to Russian propaganda, Iranian propaganda and Syrian regime propaganda, the massacre was carried out by Assad militias.

Peter in other threads you’ve criticised western media as being propaganda outlets, now you’re quoting the BBC when it suits you. Which is it?

Lol matoid I quoted Russia today (learn to read bro )

The current head of BBC is a former Goldmen Sachs chief

Absolute nonsense George. The BBC vigorously guards its editorial independence from Government, and the UK government often accuse it of anti-government bias.

Thats not to say that they don’t have their own agenda or bias, but its complete BS to state that the uk govt can tell them what to say. Do you also think that Enda Kenny can tell RTE what to say?

@mattoid read and weep…….http://syria360.wordpress.com/2012/05/27/photographer-marco-di-lauro-exposes-bbcs-use-of-his-iraq-photos-as-propaganda-for-houla-massacre/

@mattoid just for you kid !! http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2003/mar/26/bbc.Iraqandthemedia

You’re some boyo Johnnathan!! If you’re going to post links you should at least make sure they don’t shoot your own argument in the foot!

Firstly I never stated that the BBC may not have its own editorial angle, just that it was outside government control, as amply demonstrated in your second link when a government MP accused it of bias.

Secondly the bias it was accused of (by its own on-the-ground correspondent no less) was for painting an unrealistically gloomy picture of the losses suffered by the coalition in the Iraq war – hardly propaganda I think you’ll agree!

Thirdly in the link you posted referring to Houla they clearly stated that the image was received from an activist and could not be independently verified – most sensible people would read this and treat it with the caution it deserves.

Fourthly, while we are are on the subject of Houla perhaps you should follow Paul Breen’s link above, and read and weep yourself.

Finally, there is propaganda on all sides in a war. It has always been this way and will always be this way. Why is it that you continually accuse western media of propaganda and yet blindly accept as gospel anything which emanates from Russia, Syria, Iran, Iraq etc. without question? Don’t you think they’re capable of propaganda as well?

@mattoid you still do not get it do you ? Western governments are responsible for mass murder on lies and propaganda, can you name a country Iran has invaded and murdered 500,00 people ? People are blinded by pure media manipulation it is a fact but you are still blind to this……What has Iran, Syria and Iraq done to us or the west ? Iran is a country with deep culture but is portrayed by the media as some Dr.Evil of the middle east when in fact the opposite is true…….of course all countries use propaganda , but the western media and governments are knee deep in untruths……is Syria attacking the west ? Is Iran attacking the west ? Did Iraq attack the west ? the answer is NO on all counts……open your eyes !! How can we accept murder of people on this scale ? It is a joke and you know it !!

@mattoid there is evidence that Massacre Marketing is going on……yes , murdering civilians and blaming the Syrian government…..false flag operations…..which is well documented they have been carried by the US, UK, ISRAEL….so do some research and so some thinking of yourself….the world is alot stranger than you think….

Johnnathan, as I mention above propaganda from all sides is the norm in a conflict, and all information has to be regarded with suspicion. You only seem to be capable of seeing lies and propaganda when it comes from the west, and just accept as fact and without question any information which comes from the ‘other side’.
You are absolutely right, massacre marketing is happening in Syria but it is apparently not all one-sided as you believe. You obviously didn’t follow Paul Breen’s link where many verifiable eyewitnesses stated that the Syrian regime and their militias carried out the Houla massacre, but I suppose you will just write this off as evil western propaganda.
Please open your eyes – it is not as simplistic as west = evil, everyone else = victims…

Some say the moon is made of cheese. I believe these reports to be credible.

Some say the moon is a supersatellite and weapons system put in place by the elite to keep track on the activities of the downtrodden masses and ensure that the balance of power remains in place. I do not find this credible, however it won’t stop some people from believing it….

boys no wonder the world is the way it is when you have zombies like yourself’s believing everything that is thrown at you…..your arguments are really childish , “the moon is made of cheese”…..dear god above, humanity has no chance !!

A little tip for you Johnnathan – before you start accusing others of being childish try rereading some of your own posts in various threads.
If you want to win people over to your way of thinking I would humbly suggest that calling anyone with a worldview different from your own “sheep”, “morons” and “zombies” may not be the best way to go about it….

@mattoid but you are ? …….

@mattoid i do not give a rattlers about people calling me whatever……the facts are out there about western media manipulation and wars based on complete lies…….can you remember the “dodgy dossier ” “wmds”….keep believing mattoid you are cheerleading murder by friend !!!

Johnnathan – Read my posts! I have never said that western media manipulation is not taking place. I have said that it takes place on all sides but you fail to see that and just gullibly swallow what you hear from ‘their’ sources. And from reading your posts, presumably you think its ok for various unelected dictatorships to murder their own people?
The fact that you insist on calling me a zombie, a moron and a sheep displays a childishness which, thankfully, I grew beyond in my mid teens.