Please read the piece above again – it is marked as the transcript as published in the Garda Ombudsman report today. That is the entirety of what they published.

Perhaps it wasn’t published because it’s not a fact. And the file that was deleted was supposedly unrelated to this incident.

More on both of those points here:
http://www.villagemagazine.ie/index.php/2012/03/gardaombudsman/
Article written by:
http://irishoilandgas.wordpress.com/about/

The full tape can still be viewed online. During the arrest one of the protestors makes allegations about one of the Gardaí “I’m not leaving her alone. She’s not safe with that man. She’s been assaulted and i want to make sure she’s ok”. It can be quite difficult to have false allegations made against you and making a joke of it relieves some of the associated anxiety and distress.

Pity these facts were left out of the story.

@Seanbeag – the link to that tape is provided in the article above.

Yes but the contents aren’t mentioned. So where these left out on purpose or was the story just not investigated fully?

well said!!!

Moronic comment in fairness.

Any opportunity to crack the ol “I hate sf whip” wha!

Well if you think it’s moronic to question why families are being put through pain over missing loved ones that’s your prerogative, I believe it to be a relevant question. It’s not about cracking any whip, SF would be better served finalising the cleaning of their own house before sticking their beaks into other matters whilst claiming to be the moral and righteous party of the people, that’s what’s moronic.

Yeah Richie or Where that 50K REALLY went, I trust Sinn Fein as much as I trust that Palestinian alarm clock from family guy

I think he means its moronic because its nothing got to do with the story.

When the picture leading the story is a bunch of Sinn Fein TD’s brandishing a memory stick it’s hard not to make, what I believe is, a relevant comment on it

My occupation is irrelevant to you just as yours is to me, irregardless of occupation we all have our opinions and are entitled to them. Sinn Fein along with others jumped in the minute this story broke, they are a political party so by extension when political party’s become involved it is a political issue as further highlighted by debate and questions in the Dail over the matter, that’s what makes it a political matter not my comments. Sinn Fein did not wait for an enquiry to be completed and a report furnished to cast judgement, others like them or not, did not comment in light of an enquiry being undertaken and will most likely do so now. They remained silent out of proper procedure, that is the least I would expect

Richie, to be fair SF made their stance on the Corrib Gas line clear from the very very outset, a full 2 years before this incident occurred, but i am sure that you know this already. But way to go, trying to use the art of distraction to go off topic. I cant believe anyone would try and defend the comments that were recorded by the Gardai in question. I hope no female member of your family ends up being the subject of such comments.

I am not going off topic nor am I defending, I believe the comments were wrong and an apology was justified and forthcoming as I stated in a previous comment, however I do not belief the intent of those concerned was to cause harm or distress or to belittle the subject of rape. The photograph is part of this article, I have commented on it, that is not going off topic. I am glad to see that you have somewhat calmed down after your last attempted comment, you may attempt to distract from issues if you wish, I have distracted from nothing.

Richie, for the record, your suggestion that SF TDs know where the disappeared are buried is extremely libelous and may result in some members of that party taking action in response. I think its incredible that Journal.ie has left that comment up for this length of time.

I never mentioned Sinn Fein TD’S knowing anything, where did I say that?? You referenced Sinn Fein TD’S not me

Richie read your comments…. You just mention SF in your first comment then you talk about SF TD’s in the photo that prompted you to make your very incriminating comment. Are you confused?

Eh no not confused at all but thank you for asking

Dead sound comment; what are you afraid of, Kieran O’Hare?

Bad publicity for the killers?

Maybe you should change your name? George Carlin had no problem with it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FsfLPohZ_c

I’ll second that. The impression I’m getting is that the majority of people out there are completely ill-educated and moronic with no regard for anyone or anything beyond their own limited self-interests.
Feminism doesn’t have to mean an end to basic chivalry, respect and simple good manners.
What has happened to this country that we have become so harsh and insensitive?

Sums the whole thing up perfectly, Emsy.

@Ciaran O’Hare

Hear, hear

I casually mention that I’ll like to kill someone on occasion, doesnt mean ill do it….rape is a word mate and is only offensive and wrong when said in the wrong context either directly to someone or about someone, in my view this was said in a private capacity in the form of their humour when the door was opened by the girls who mentioned the actual rape word first…

@Janson bourne

These two women are two human beings and deserve respect. They are also someone’s daughters, no matter what age they are. Whether their conversation was supposedly private or not, it is still awful to hear, terrible carry on. They sound like two backward, illeducated, gombeen mountain men from the stone age. God help us, if that is what the Department of Justice is training to be my gardai.

It is clear to me that you are ignorant of the right and respect of others. If you found out that they were talking like that about your sister, wife, mother, would your attitude be different. It is totally irresponsible and huge lack of judgement.

Tell you what Sheila the Gardai deserve respect too, Gardai are also someones sons and daughters yet they get abused, assaulted and at times even killed doing their duty. They get accused of being biased, useless, arrogant, etc irregardless of being right or wrong and even when they perform something heroic or above the call of duty they are criticised. The comments were ill judged and should not have been made but they were made in private as comments like that are made by people everywhere on a daily basis and whether you accept that or not it’s the truth.

Ritchie, you can put your head in the sand and pretend there are not bad apples in the Gardai. I for one, would be totally disgusted and alarmed if i heard an A&E worker (who also risk life and limb every night) make similar remarks about raping a patient (jokingly or otherwise). All the Gardai in this case, at a minimum should have received unpaid suspensions, and barred from dealing with any actual rape victims, until such times as they received the appropriate level of training, as it is blindingly obvious, these idiots have zero empathy with real rape victims, While saying all that, i would not like to see anyone lose their job over a display of immature, testosterone driven behaviors, if those behaviors are punished in such a way as not to encourage repeats in the future. I am disappointed that a supposed impartial ombudsman did not see a similar level of response as appropriate.

And where did I say there were no bad apples in the Gardai?? What part of my comment suggests that is my opinion?? There are bad apples and they have most often been weeded out and brought before the courts where necessary by Gardai. I stated the comments were incorrect and should not have been made by those concerned, an apology was made and warranted. There is no evidence to suggest that the comments represented the real views of those concerned or represented how they carry out their duty, they were made in private in the belief that they would remain as such. That is not a defence of the comments being made just a fact, there are bad apples in An Garda Siochana like there are in every job but these Gardai are not bad apples they made a mistake and an independent investigation body has now ruled.

@Richie Quigley

I stand by what I said. To read and also to listen to that recording is just awful. What I found worst of all was that it was a sargent that said most of the insulting remarks. He should know better, I am sure he is older and more experienced than the young garda that was in the car at the time. Whether it was said privately or not it is still a very sensitive subject and sadly it was heard by the public. I worked with the public for many years. Many times I have been called awful, disgusting names money thrown at me, spat at and many other awful things, but I held my voice and opinion and never disrespected them, because that was the job I was in “customer services”! If one of the two ladies said something wrong the day before when been pulled down off a tractor, that was said during a protest/riot. Yes, it was silly of her and wrong. But you, the gardai should show more restraint and maturity when dealing with the public.

I did not disagree with the outcome of the enquiry. What’s done is done. I would hope they have learned a good lesson and it never happens again. I am quite well aware of the dangers the gardai meet every day from horrible violent individuals. I am on your side. So cool it, I am just giving my opinion, which I am entitled to and so are you.

A private conversation is shocking … U lead a sheltered life… So what if their cops, their human first and foremost

I agree that it is shocking when read like this but Did I read last year that the two women refused to go in separate guards cars because as they put it, they would be raped, this is why the guards commented on it in such a manner. All this seems to be taken a bit out of context.

you are right. it doesn’t matter whether they are guards or not. surely. the point is that anyone with common humanity or a sense of decency wouldn’t make comments like this?

Jason, if you were overheard saying stuff like that in any other professional capacity you’d rightly be reprimanded for it. The fact that it was said in private is moot. It’s no longer ‘private’. Their own ineptitude saw to that.

Seriously, whatever about what they said. How stupid were they to not even check that the camera wasn’t recording at the time? They obviously never even checked the recording for possible evidence afterwards. It doesn’t say much for them. They come across as being thick as shit.

That’s embarrassing!!!!!

Shocking not , t.b.h you would probably hear a lot worse in a boys secondary schoolyard, grow up and wake up this is kids stuff !!!!!

I never joked about raping someone in a private conversation. The facebooking thing is funny, and of no harm – but the one Garda mentions rape repeatedly. I don’t think any of the other Gardaí even wanted to entertain it, that’s why they said nothing regarding rape.

Dont see Sinn Fein having anything extra to add anymore about Mr ink cartridge Anus O Snotrag anymore these idiots are a joke looking all serious over nothing when one their own is a real culprit,get real

I’d be sacked out of my job straight away if I was heard to be making comments like that about someone at work.
They’d have me out so quick my feet wouldn’t touch the ground.

There’s some amount of gardai on this thread today!!!! and/or relatives!