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Updated 20.24
MINISTER FOR THE Environment Simon Coveney appears set to freeze bin charges for at least the next 12 months in an attempt to draw a line under the current bin charges controversy.
Speaking to RTÉ News this evening after a day in which he spoke with representatives of some of Ireland’s waste companies, Coveney said it was important, as Ireland moves to a new pay-by-weight household waste system, that “while we’re in transition that people get the time and space to adjust to that”.
“That’s why I have asked the industry to support me in ensuring that nobody pays more next year than this year,” Coveney said.
We want to move to reassure people that nobody is going to get ripped off during the move from the current system to a pay by weight structure.
Last week, the issue of price hikes was raised by a number of TDs in the Dáil, with some members saying the waste collection companies were operating “a cartel”.
Bin charges have risen by 200% for some customers ahead of the new pay-by-weight system that is due to kick in on 1 July.
“We want a 12-month period whereby households will get used to the new system,” said Coveney.
He said that if waste companies don’t agree to his suggestion then it could be enforced by the enactment of “either primary or secondary legislation”.
The minister added that once the new package regarding charges is in place he would be reaching out to all political parties in the hope of achieving a “shared objective” of introducing a pay-by-weight system “that makes sense for everyone”.
Earlier
Today’s discussion followed on from Coveney’s meeting in Athlone last week, where he met representatives from some of the bigger waste operators, including Panda Waste, Greyhound, CityBin and Clean Ireland.
The new system was the former Environment Minister Alan Kelly’s baby, aimed at making people more aware of their waste and to encourage recycling.
However, just a few weeks before the system came online, a number of companies increased the yearly standing charges. Some prices went from €50 per year being replaced with weekly service fees of €2 or €3.
Price hikes
Kelly said on Friday he did not envisage price hikes under the new system and claimed he had “made it perfectly clear” to waste companies that if they tried to exploit the situation in this way, the Statutory Instrument (used to bring in the pay-per-weight system) would be revised “to force their hands”.
The Tipperary deputy called on the current minister to respond appropriately by restricting the standing charge a company can impose.
Following concerns being raised in public, the competition watchdog, the Competition and Consumer Protection Commission (CCPC) has stepped in and launched an investigation into the sector.
Freezing charges
Minister Coveney is expected to make his plans known tomorrow after he gets approval from Cabinet on the best way forward.
It’s believed he plans to freeze bin charges in an attempt to prevent another utility disaster.
Speaking on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland, the Minister for Social Protection, Leo Varadkar said some waste companies are trying to “take advantage of this new system to hike the charges”.
That is not something we are going to allow.
However, the question remains - can the government stop private companies from hiking up the charges?
While Varadkar said he did not want to pre-empt Minister Coveney’s announcement tomorrow, he said the government did have options open to them.
“There are things that can be done. The minister can make new regulations, potentially they could cap charges,” said Varadkar.
People should pay for the waste they produce but the charges have to be fair.
Meanwhile, two opposition parties have their own plans to tackle the rising cost of bin charges.
An AAA-PBP private members’ motion will come before the Dáil tomorrow calling for an immediate ministerial order to prevent companies increasing charges.
Sinn Féin will has a separate motion to get rid of charges in the Seanad on Wednesday.
Deputy party leader Mary Lou McDonald said an ultimatum should be given to the waste companies - reduce the standing charges or he will bring in new legislation.
There has been speculation that any new legislation or regulations introduced by government will most likely be appealed to the courts.
Additional reporting Cianan Brennan
Originally published 10.29am
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Simple solution if it wasn’t broke why try to fix it, so revert back to the previous charging system and scrap this new charging system which as we’ve seen is more hassle than its worth, we already recycle more than enough in comparison with other countries.
The current system isn’t broken, but the goalposts are moving under deadlines set back in 2001 by the EU law. This isn’t about recycling, which we are doing very well in, it’s about waste we don’t recycle (that goes to landfill). If we only managed to build those incinerators that have been tied up in planning objections…oh well, we reap what we sow.
We only ever do things that are more hassle than they’re worth. Why break a losing formula?
BlueSky, it’s nothing to do with the EU. It’s all to do with Alan Kelly meeting up with the chairman of Cerebus who happen to own Greenstar waste disposal here, and coming back and legislating for pay by weight.
It’s just one more example of the government legislating to help private enterprise screw people for all they can get.
Yeah and who is opposing the building of incinerators but the waste companies who are dumping huge amounts of waste into landfills that could be burnt and turned into electricity
The free marketeers like Alan Kelly often feign surprise when the free market operates exactly as it’s designed to. That is to maximize profits at the expense of their workers and customers.
Privatization of essential public services is a recipe for worker and user exploitation. Let’s remember who’s collecting our rubbish now following privatization. The Buckley brothers (an investment banker and an accountant) who own Greyhound are ruthless employers cutting their workers’ pay by 35% in 2014, locked out the workers who resisted and used scab labour in an effort to break the strike.
In addition the Buckleys are tax dodging parasites who have gone to great lengths to avoid making any contribution to the society which they prey on having transferred their shares to limited liability companies in the Isle of Man. This is the same firm who were forced to make a €1.3 million settlement with Iarnroid Eireann for overcharging on a previous contract.
The waste collection service should be taken back into public ownership.
@Dave Doyle. Cork County Council were operating pay by weight (back in 2001) long before the private companies took over waste collection. I know because I was a customer. When the private companies took over Cork County Councils route, they got rid of pay by wieght and introduced pay by use. The Dept of Environment was not happy with the private companies dropping the pay by weight. The reintroduction of pay by wieght has been on the cards since then. Not too sure where Alan Kelly was back in 2001.
At Micahel Walsh, agreed, but there are also plenty of local action groups against incineration. These are my local nimby’s http://chasecorkharbour.com/
this current mess is the result of the political imbecile that is calamity alan kelly,,everything he touches ends up rubber ducked
BlueSky, i don’t give a flying one what CCC were doing back in 2001. It is no mere coincidence that Alan Kelly comes back after his meeting with Dan Quayle and legislates for pay by weight, and service charges go through the roof.
It’s the very same as Noonan and his meetings with vulture funds, lo and behold legislation is brought in to make it easier for banks and vulture funds to evict people.
This government, like the last one, works for banks and corporations, exclusively. It taxes people as if they pay for services,and taxes heavily, and at the same time opens the utilities that provide such services to privatisation.
The government is doing a great job of helping the rich get richer, and ordinary people very much poorer. And you see nothing wrong with that?
Problem is that the companies have invested millions for this new system & will want to recoup their cost. Total mess badly thought out & rushed through just like the water.
Have they invested millions? Or were they subsidised?
Most of the companies already have the systems in place
How did they invest millions? All they did was send out letters
Draw a line under it?? I’m not having it..when the heat goes out of this in a years time, the collection companies will jack up their rates. The conversations going on with Coveney now is a smoke screen. They’re still treating us like imbeciles.
The rip off is simply a consequence of the privatisation of formerly public services.
I doubt that capping charges can be achieved in a legally effective way.
The market rules where private commercial services are involved.
They can do nothing right.
Always making a pigs Mickey out of the simplest of things.
P1ssup in a brewery comes to mind.
Seems like Coveney is showing some initiative here! With this useless bunch, the standard solution to every problem is raise taxes. The new tactic now seems to be (like IW), freeze payments for 9 months or a year, and then…….well I dunno? Isn’t it just kicking the can down the road?
The government claims that pay by weight is being introduced because of an EU directive. I have my doubts. In Stockport (Manchester), they don’t have pay by weight. And no talk of it being introduced either.
Not while there’s a Brexit campaign to be won, these things need to be cloak and dagger! Sure the EU is grand for jobs!
The EU sets the targets, but it’s up to countries indivdually as to how they reach those targets. I’m not a fan of pay by weight anyway. How does the wieght of an object affect how much space it takes up in a landfill? Weight is an issue for transportation costs (diesel) I’ll admit.
@bluesky just read my weight for a year into bins collected it is 1975 kilos if I pay Panda .27 cent per kilo plus vat @ 13.5% plus yearly fee €86 I am paying €362 more and I recycle. Everyone will pay this. Before charges my bin cost €9.05 every third week plus yearly charge of €110 it was much cheaper.
People should protest next week like the extortion stepping platform to water charges which has ceased. Bins when first introduced for charging had people go to jail to stop what is developing on 1st of July this year from happening.
Protests will save the planet from illegally dumping because these charges need to be stopped
With almost 2 ton of waste you can’t be doing much recycling.
Of course they can be frozen. The legislation to introduce pay-by-weight hasn’t passed through the Seanad yet, so if the AAA-PBP private members bill this week doesn’t sort things, then SF can move to have it blocked in the upper house.
Say NO to price gouging by cartels.
would charging $500 for dinner be considered price gouging?
Ah Tommy . Even enda likes to charge for dinner.
TAOISEACH Enda Kenny will tonight celebrate 40 years in the Dail with a private party . . . for 400.
The lavish bash at the luxurious Breaffy House resort in Castlebar, Co Mayo, is by invitation only, with guests forking out €50 a head to attend.
“would charging $500 for dinner be considered price gouging?”
Not compared to the two grand a plate FG used to charge, no.
http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/election-funding-system-serves-to-undermine-public-trust-1.995480
“Fine Gael organised three corporate dinners in 2006 at an average of €2,000 a head.”
E50 – $500.
Just a bit of a difference?
One covers the cost, the other is a ‘donation’…
40 years, well done enda :)
40 years a parasite on Irish society. The sooner the useless pr1ck fooks off the better.
our greatest ever leader :)
Tommy. 40 years, a parasite well done indeed.
it will be some party to honor the great man :)
You don’t organise partys for political corpses tommy, you’re thinking of a wake.
“it will be some party to honor the great man :)”
For you Tommy I’d say it will be, a box of kleenex, some hand lotion and your favourite picture of Enda.
40 years Dane eh… And in 40 years what did this gombeen freeloader achieve.. Nothing, zilch, SFA. In fact I reckon your driving school would have achieved more in 1 year than that eejet will ever accomplish in his lifetime. He even had to beg to get back in. Some *so called* leader alright. Oh sorry I forgot your trademark ( :) )
tommy and Enda are a perfect match, in fairness. When in doubt, grin like an idiot and say something irrelevant
Some part eh Tommy. What will enda charge for that party?.€100.
Our greatest ever leader Tommy. Isn’t that what the n Korean say about kim Jung yon
returned as toiaseach that must really hurt they shinners after their 5 years of spouting nonsense, its no wonder every just laughs at you lot :D
united ireland any day now huh :D
Well Dane/richie/rodgers/tommy etc etc etc,I was actually wondering when you would come out with your shinners drivel. This is about the the greatest “waster” this country has and ever will see.. Kenny. Get back to your driving school ,you must have a customer to look after. ( :) ;) :D :P etc )
“returned as toiaseach”
By Fianna Fail, yes Tommy what an achievement. Proves the man is a weasel and a turncoat,someone not to be trusted. Not surprising that you would have a crush on him.
European of the year too, what a fantastic leader, sure its no wonder he was reelected as toaiseach :)
Returned witn no actual power and serving at the behest of Michael Martin. Political corpse washes up on beach in Wales climing to have swam the irish sea.
Yep, some achievement all right.
are you suggesting enda is not the taoiseach?
모든 위대한 지도자 우박
modeun widaehan jidoja ubag
Do you say it in your sleep Tommy.
That’s the FG mentality, achieved nothing for 40 years but he’s been there for 40 years so this make him a success.
Sure isn’t that why he’s leader of FG in the first place, extremely low standards.
they achieved the most votes Les …. just saying like :D
“are you suggesting enda is not the taoiseach?”
You see, as I said, extremely low standards!
His such a success Tommy that he has raked up , how many pensions now. Not forgetting the €100.000 cash lump sum and €30.000 a year teaching pension for his staggering 4 years teaching. That’s his legacy.
befitting a man of his stature, i hope he enjoys every cent as no one deserves it more :)
The man has absolutely no sense of dignity. The electorate clearly told him to jog on, yet through secret meetings and promises of god-knows-what to Mehole, he brazenly clung to “power” like an unashamed military dictator.
except he was democratically elected both as a TD and as Taoiseach :)
Propped up by Fianna Fail and you think this is an achievement?
“I have great faith in fools – self-confidence my friends will call it.”
― Edgar Allan Poe, Marginalia ,
This you Tommy.
I
first ever FG taoiseach returned is some achievement alright les, no better man to do it than our enda :)
He couldn’t do with it without Fianna Fail, he’s answerable to Fianna Fail, the party partly responsible for destroying our economy and this is a great achievement?
Yep Tommy you are as I have always suspected since your very first days here as Vincent, not very bright at all!
Tommy such shameless sycophanicy, don’t forget the knee pads for tonight.
Hands up who would pay 50 euro to have dinner with Enda.
When formerly public services are privatised, there is no unchallengeable legally effective way off limiting or capping price increases.
Market rules, K.O.
A walking headless fcuking chicken..is what that clown is….same as that gobs#ite from tipperary
The fact the didn’t see coming , says enough , they did and like everything ignored it. Till it’s was out of control.
They didn’t see it coming.
Didn’t a previous minister of the last government meet with Cerberus. Who happen to own a waste management company. As usual no minutes. Did fg miss that. No . They just ignored it. Or Did they?????be bit hard to not know what ministers of your government are discussing.
This is the problem when a utility type service is privatised, eventually they get greedy and hike up prices. This was the fear with Irish water. Besides, charging by weight is not a fair charge, for example a family disposing a lot of heavy nappies will pay a huge amount for what is essentially just water.
Just water? What on earth are you feeding your babies?
Absolutely agree on the nappies – 3 kids in this house and we’ve been disposing of nappies into the black bin for 6 years. Weight is largely water. If someone has a device for evaporating the water without releasing the stench I’d happily buy it.
Yes , It’s called a fire.Which is where a lot of waste is going to end up as a result of this latest development.
We have 1 baby/kitten.
I actually weighed a wet nappy…. they come in around 200g.
The lad goes through 5 nappys a day…. ergo: 5 x 200g = 1kg
That amounts to 30kgs a month…
@ 33c per kg (in our area) this means that disposing nappies alone will be at least €10 per month..
or, to put it another way over €120 PER YEAR just to dispose of f*cking nappies!
We were paying €290 per year to our waste provider!
This is insane!
Just like the political pensions. They can’t do anything but they have to take the pension rises.
God we’ve got a right bunch of ignoramasus running this country.
I use Panda and you can see the weight of each lift in their web site. My last bill was 34.80, when billing per Kg comes in the same bill will be 89.91. That’s a bit of a steep increase
The eu is good for creating employment but is also good for privitasition of public services which people are forced to pay for which erodes workers living standards
€196 service charge and 35c a kilo .Average lift will be 30 kilos or more so the real cost will be over €420 a year if the black bin is just used.
A complete rip off. How do you stop someone using your bin when it is out for collection.
Hey tom did you ever see darren from love hate …when some lad was dumping rubbish in his sisters bin….thats what ill do if i catch a c#nt doing that
problem is some feckers will do this under the cover of darkness.
where is our exact breakdown of what that property bond holder tax pays? will revenue give us a breakdown?
Rip off Ireland. least in Uk they get a breakdown for their council tax? beginning to think ours just goes into the
pension pots of these so called TD’s. that LPT needs to be looked at.. no means/ability to pay etc.. makes my blood boil
No direct bin charges in England as its included in your council tax.
Empty or full bin – it’s still the same price
And for every person in Ireland that pays there are about 12 people paying in the UK. Have you heard of the concept of ‘economies of scale’
Yep as is emergency services etc. At least you get something in the UK for your council tax/ property tax. Here you get nothing. Potholes in the road’s.
Council tax in the UK pays for libraries, transport/local buses, refuse collection, police, parks, road cleaning/maintenance, water/sewerage etc. An average household will pat about £180 a month and it’s a much fairer system.
Surely then we produce 1/12 the rubbish as they do in UK ?
If they are gonna defer these charges for a year, then they should force providers to issue “dummy” bills for pay-per-weight alongside current charges to show exactly how much people would have paid if the system was fully in force. The data is available. It would very quickly point out any obvious gouging and also help people get more used to it and help them adjust their behavior in time for the real billing.
How could a man responsible for so many failures have an ego the size of his? Silly me, I almost forgot, this is the land where we celebrate failure and mediocrity.
Water gouging tax-bin gouging tax-and an increase in property gouging tax on the way.??
Pressure should be put on suppliers of goods to minimize packaging at source! Trying to force people to minimize rubbish, recycle and compost is working from the wrong end of the supply chain. Breakfast cereals in huge cardboard boxes, what a case of over-packaging! Use the same packaging as for crisps. Doing my head in!
John
The vast majority of packaging can go in the green bin which is free to collect with Panda so I assume the others too.
You should try carrying your cornflakes home without packaging
Isn’t it amazing how suddenly “there are things that can be done” when you don’t have an outright dictatorial majority in the Dàil, Leo ?
Freeze bin charges, freeze water charges. Why have we turned into the Paul Murphy pay for nothing brigade
Nobody is proposing that we pay nothing for bin collection.
Sounds like you have brain freeze Cathal
Dunno about you but I am paying my bin charges at the moment, pay for water via general taxation and they literally have a tax for owning a home which you get nothing out of in return for paying. So I don’t think nobody is paying nothing for anything. You get nothing in this life for free and defo not from the lads in the Dail. I have a great idea, how about they look at they own spending.
freeloading has become very popular in ireland
That’s for sure !! The macdonaghs have been at it all thier lives…
So has selective brain usage
Absolutely Tommy and the government are world class at it. Illegal freeloading too. Vehicle registration tax, excessive p!ss taking interesting rates. Sure our citizens only learn from the best.
Who would have thought that in Ireland of all countries, a country destroyed by lack of regulation and inadequate regulators, that we would hand over another more or less mandatory utility to an unregulated sector and ask them nicely not to do anything to upset us, rather than regulate them via legislation BEFORE instead of AFTER?
We have learned nothing.
The AAA Trotskyist nutters who are now so vehement about increases in bin charges have to take a lot of responsibility for the privatisation of of refuse collection. Not so long ago, Comrade Joe Higgins and fellow minded socialists were to the fore in throwing themselves in front of bin lorries because they were opposed to bin charges! With the councils running the service, waivers were granted (and paid for by those who paid) with the result that the service was loss making. Result – the service was privatised and the waivers were abolished. Victory to the people! (as the rich kid socialists from Belfield might shout)
The service wasn’t loss making. Competition, you know that thing at the heart of Capitalism, meant that some companies made a profit while others didn’t. Some companies raked the money so less of the beal bocht for these guys.
My €235 per year is now jumping to €390 minimum. If they cant make money in the market then they should shut up shop. If the “free market” cannot supply a necessary service to people at reasonable cost, then the State should step in to provide the service. We’d save money as we wouldn’t need to filter millions in funds through the Isle of Man while pretending to be penniless.
The mafia in NY didn’t hike prices that much after they took over the bin collection service.
Good Early
Who are you with that you have to pay a minimum of 380? Panda had a minimum of 86
A lesson in why we need a corrupt company in the form of Irish water from the TD from tip relative this time to waste management. He has not gone away despite being in supposed opposition.
The battle between corruption and the will of the Irish people continues despite the holidays from the main protagonist Alan tip Kelly.
Labour should you not be holding the fiannas to account as opposed to leading the management of the privatisation agenda? I thought that was the role of an opposition party or is labour part of the fiannas now?
Christ Cathal, you’d think a ‘good civil engineer’ could comprehend the concept of the public domain.
I get close to vomiting every time I read an article about water or rubbish. That yolk A Kelly is responsible for both..the most sickening thing is he enacts a law bringing in regulatory charges and then asks the next minister to control it, as costs spiral out of control! There should be a new law, acting gov ministers should not be allowed to pass any laws, and any such laws should be repealed on the basis that the acting minister has no mandate to act on behalf of the public.
@ Cathal I see you’re countering an argument that doesn’t exist, that’s disingenuous to say the least. Troll.
We have been paying per weight with Thornton’s since last July. Wonder will they reverse it now? Doubt it
Thorntons before and after (pay per weight)
Annual Fee: 50 euror
40KG lift (240 litre): 9.90
New charge:
Annual Fee: 104 euror
40KG lift (240 litre): 14.00
Incredible increase in the standard fee and per-lift fee. How they think they can get away just shows how they view their customers.
In parts of the country,bin charges are 380 for the year.this has to be looked at.
Leo says some are trying to take advantage. Could he tell me one that’s not. Them trying to somehow put a lid on this actually goes against everything they stand for. It’s obviously a knee jerk reaction to a system that they put in place that the public don’t want and as the makeup of the dail is how it is they can’t steamroll it through. Bit take your eye off the ball on this one and it’ll go through.
No such thing as a weekly charge ! It has to be paid EVERY WEEK for 52 weeks of the year. It’s compulsory. You can choose to pay in in weekly instalments but it works out more expensive than the upfront annual or half monthly charge.
Letter today is outlining with mine as a monthly charge of €14.50 to be paid for 2 months at a time, 2 months in advance! Thats €174 per year. Not including the Kg charges
Another unjustified tax. Scrap the tax. It will be an environmental nightmare
Don’t mind paying for my rubbish but this service charge is really pissing me off, nobody apart from the waste companies are gaining form this. That clown Coveney would want to nip this shit in the bud and none of this crap, cap it for 12 months, sort it out now.
Had a lovely bonfire today down the end of the garden. Free of charge!
Your neighbours must love you.
The neighbours should all join in.
Alan Kelly everything he touches turns to shite.
Just kicking the (trash) can down the road again. It’ll get worse not better (and that’s the plan, allow the waste und get a good foothold with pay by weight so that it’s irreversible). Irish Water all over again.
The Government brought out so many charges over the last few years. Now they don’t know when to stop. Where will it all end? It’s no wonder people have no faith in them anymore.
There should be no charges for water or bins – it’s our right.
And anyway, we’ve paid for them already. Twice!
Food, education, fuel and TV should also be free – to all over 11.
and free gas and electricity too please…..
Bill and Brian. Gobsh!tes of the highest order.
Bill
It’s people like you that are causing the problems in this country
Not the politicians or the shinners?
can you help me to understand why you want to be ripped off?
Food, education, fuel and TV should also be free – to all over 11. who is arguing for this????? this is a stupid argument used by FG apologists. IW was set up to be sold and will go the way of the bins price hikes every few months.
who is asking for free waste collection? i have yet to read anyone ask for that.
Moronic attitude from the happy to be ripped off muppets
Ah Bill if you were an adult I could explain to you we already pay for water through Motor tax and VAT. Try and keep up……
So basically he is sweet fa about it. Just cancel your accounts and then see what happens
BTW – nothing on this planet is free!
Do you pay for sunlight too?
In fairness, the sun isn’t on this planet.
SunLIGHT is not the sun though is it…
Just received this email from Greyhound as I was reading this article…
Dear Customer,
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In order for the credit to be applied to your account please make sure to top by any of the exact amounts listed below:
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The credit will be applied to your bin account by the 14th of July.
Over the coming weeks and months we will be coming out with some initiatives which we think will help keep costs down and help you recycle more (and save more).
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You would think these companies know what the outcome is going to be in their arrogance.
If they can bring in legislation to stop waste companies from increasing payments, then why didn’t they do the same for the insurance company’s who’ve increased their rates by 200%/300%. ???????
I guess they’ve learned something from the water charges fiasco!
How stupid is Coveney? and more importantly how stupid does he think we are? He kicks the can down the road for another year and does he not think that this time next year that the uproar will recommence when the stay on the charges are lifted? It is a cynical move and going down the same road as water…It will not go away as much as they attempt to shove this along with water down our throats because it will not work and this is the start of the next general election.
Enough moaners on here to keep Joe Duffy going for a month.
Enough pusillanimous to keep him going for a year. Like yourself power abbey.
I’m surprised that you guys in Parnell Square understand a word with more than four letters Little One!
Do TRY to get the grammar correct.
Sorry power abbey. No Parnell square down here. Its usually those that are doing something themselves that accuse others. Isn’t that right . God the delusion is mighty. Because your spouting on behalf of someone, you think others are. Ah that’s hilarious. Keep up the good work.
Some people live their lives being perpetual victims and finger pointers. To anyone who points a finger at someone else and lays all the blame at their feet instead of taking responsibility for their own behavior, I would say, “I see that finger and you know where you can put it?”
Little – your posts from Offaly are becoming manic and increasingly delusional – typing about feet and fingers!
Sorry ger. Not my fault if you don’t know quotes.
AND you’re typing in Chinese! See your vet….
So ger you don’t know quotes and you don’t know Korean from Chinese . Ah poor you.
Ask the vet about arse and elbow, too
Ger – pointless commenting to Little One. It takes him too long to understand.
Power, Little is a woman from Blueball.
Ah ger still peddling that . You are one crazy ass , freaky man. But keep on trying. Like I said last week, the fact you think I am from a place I am not. At least I know I am safe from nutters like you. thank god for that. You must have some fascination with blueball. Good on you. Tell me again ger? Why or how you think I am from blueball. Come on now man up. How you can tell from someones Twitter account that is only set up to comment on here. I would love to know?????
See Power, Freda is as daft as a thrush. Crazy, freaky, nutters (that’s us!!)…but she’ll be here tomorrow, without fail…
Ah ger no balls. Good man. Considering power thinks I am from Parnell square and you think blueball. Think nutters , crazy sums you both up. See you still haven’t answered my question. But used diversion tactics.
I await ger. The man who thinks he knows everything but in fact knows nothing.
You’re not Freda from Blueball #!?
No ger I am not Freda from blueball. Think that fantasy must be your in your head. Must be watching too much fantasy shows. Better get your mammy to curtail that. It’s causing you delusions..
Ger – poor Little One can keep a conversation going on his / her facile opinions. He she only uses insult when their opinions are questions. Bust all be nutters in Blueball.
Panda charges
Black bin: 3.20 per lift plus 27c per Kg
Brown: 2.56 per lift plus 16c per Kg
Green: free per lift and free per Kg
Plus a standing charge of €86 per Annum
Panda Waste quoted me €118 Service Charge per annum in addition to Lift/Weight charges above.
Also, they have never supplied a Composting (Brown) Bin and because I live in a ‘Rural Area’ they say they do not have the Trucks available to service the collection facility of composting waste and this waste should continue to be placed in my Black bin !!!
Our standing charge with Greenstar is €174 per annum. Black bin is 25c per Kg
Greenstar is 156 service charge and 33c per kg black bin in fingal.
Citybin has two schemes 2.49/wk and 35c/kg or else 2.25/wk and 39c/kg. That’s a minimum service charge of €117 (but the 129/year one is more realistic). We only put ours out every second month, and when full at 40kg*, so we will be an increase of only over 100% because we recycle a lot.
Alan Kelly really should be put in his neighbour’s (the old women that he sued and allegedly harassed, because that’s what great men do) field and let the bulls at him. Not for any sadistic pleasure, because it’s the right thing to do for the country.
PS: For a family of 6, this is low due to using an incinkerator, which is apparently banned as well, because it er, reduces the waste.
Letter I got this morning has greenstar at €14.50 per month standing charge = €174 per year.
Then €0.25 per kg black bin. €0.15 for Compost bin.
How about each road/street cancel their accounts with these waste management companies and hire or buy a skip and land fill it all. That would grab the governments attention soon enough
Alan Kelly for Taoiseach !!!
That’s the news we’ve all bin waiting on. It’s wheels good
The more we recycle the cheaper our bills will be. Is that not the idea behind this. It was the same rhetoric when the plastic bag levy came out. But look at Ireland now, it is far cleaner and people now being empty bags to the shops.
Eh…I as already recycling. Now my bill is doubling anyway!
I already recycle. I also compost. But yet now going to be charged more.
Recycle to the sky and just put out the ashes might of clarified another one of fg bungled policies.
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Another “can kicking” exercise by this farsical government and opposing TDs.
Maybe we should all just start throwing everything in the recycle bin in protest.
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