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TORY LEADERSHIP CANDIDATE Robert Jenrick said that former British colonies owe a “debt of gratitude” and should be thanking Britain for the legacy of empire – not asking for slavery reparations.
A number of former British colonies in the Commonwealth have banded together to request financial reparations for suffering at the hands of the British, particularly as a result of the slave trade.
Over the weekend, Commonwealth leaders agreed that the “time has come” for a conversation about reparations for the slave trade.
Keir Starmer was among 56 heads of government who signed a document at the Commonwealth summit that acknowledged calls for “discussions on reparatory justice” for the “abhorrent” transatlantic slave trade.
Writing in the Daily Mail, Jenrick pushed back at the Labour government, stating that Prime Minister Keir Starmer “spent the weekend doing what he does best: capitulating to those determined to tear our country down.”
Jenrick is one of the final two Tory leadership candidates, with both he and Kemi Badenoch vying for the spot of top Tory.
Jenrick claimed that Labour were “cooking up ways” to send British money overseas, as he denounced the slashing of winter payments for pensioners.
A report published last year by the University of West Indies concluded the UK owed more than £18 trillion in reparations for its role in slavery in 14 Caribbean countries.
The report was backed by Patrick Robinson, a judge who sits on the International Court of Justice. Starmer had previously said that the UK would not be paying reparations, and would not issue an apology over Britain’s role in the slave trade while at the Commonwealth summit in Samoa.
Jenrick said that this “weakness” points to a “confusion” in society: “the bizarre, unpatriotic belief that we should be embarrassed about our history”, which he claimed was a result of “universities overrun by Leftists peddling pseudo-Marxist gibberish to impressionable undergraduates.”
The Tory leadership candidate cited theologian Nigel Biggar, who wrote: “the Empire committed crimes on a terrible scale, including slavery, the displacement of peoples, and military aggression.”
Jenrick then went on to say that alongside honesty about the crimes of colonialism, “we should be proud of its achievements”.
“The British Empire broke the long chain of violent tyranny as we came to introduce – gradually and imperfectly – Christian values.”
Speaking on slavery in West Africa, Jenrick said that although the British initially continued the slave trade, “confronted by its cruelty – we ended it”, despite suffering the great cost of an estimated 1.8 per cent of Britain’s GDP between 1808 and 1867.
He said that countries across the Commonwealth retained British institutions and recognise that the British governance system is the best in the world – which is why former British colonies have performed better than French ones, he added.
“I’m not ashamed of our history. It may not feel like it, but many of our former colonies – amid the complex realities of Empire – owe us a debt of gratitude for the inheritance we left them,” he finished his op-ed.
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Maybe we should thank em’ as well for the great famine, saved us from a lot of obesity!
@Frank Mc Carthy: The Greens would thank them for all the green space left behind after the landlords knocked the dead & emigrated tenant farmer homes.
*dead and emigrated
@Frank Mc Carthy: a complete ar**hole from a nation of ar**holes
@Frank Mc Carthy: is it not just Woke nonsense to be seeking reparations?
@sean weir: It’s a nation of good and bad, like every other nation.
@9QRixo8H: was it not just woke nonsense that slave owners were compensated for having to give up slaves after it was made illegal?
@Frank Mc Carthy: they should be thanking us: there wouldn’t have been a British empire without Irish soldiers, governors, civil servants, sailors, generals etc
@Brendan O’Brien:
I spoke with a native in Malta several years ago. As a result a question was asked for reparations be paid to the victims of WWII . The question was asked in the government parliament. It’s a worldwide phenomenon going back hundreds if not thousands of years. Reparation should be done.
The unspeakable atrocities of empire building is recognised but how do we pay
@9QRixo8H: When slavery was abolished the Uk government of the day paid out the equivalent in today’s money of £20 billion in compensation…not to the slaves but to the slave owners in the UK…kinda gives you an idea of their mindset then and now
@9QRixo8H: No, The German nation have been paying reparation since WW1.
Woke means having a social conscience. Not a bad thing to have!
A good reaction:
‘Bell Ribeiro-Addy, the chair of the all-party parliamentary group for Afrikan reparations, which has organised Britain’s second national conference on reparations, taking place on Sunday, described Jenrick’s comments as “deeply offensive and an obnoxious distortion of history”.
She said: “Enslavement and colonialism were not ‘gifts’ but imposed systems that brutally exploited people, extracted wealth, and dismantled societies, all for the benefit of Britain. To suggest that former colonies should be ‘grateful’ for such unimaginable harm disregards the legacy of these injustices and the long-term impact they still have on many nations today.
“Following Brexit we need to establish ourselves as a nation that everyone can do business with. We cannot afford such vile, baseless commentary. Whilst it might send perfectly pitched dog whistles for a Tory leadership contest, these insulting sentiments are catastrophic for international relations.”’
@Brendan O’Brien: what pap rhetoric. Back under your bridge troll.
@Buster Lawless: WTF are you on about ? By ur strange logic Ireland should be thanking the British Empire for over 800 yrs of oppression and famine.
@Michale Kane: listen nitwit, I’m trying to reduce the troll here. He is on here morning until night with multiple ids spouting about his nazi rhetoric
@Buster Lawless: Look up the words ‘irony’ and ‘hypocrisy’ in a dictionary, educate yourself first.
Strange how you agree with him and many of these a/c’s when he attacks SF though!! That prob just the enemy of my enemy thing for ya though yeah ?
As much as it pains me to defend Brendan,as we do not agree on much, but facts are facts.
Fact is Brendan has been in these comments for years, far longer than you pal.
He dose resort to low blows sometimes in regards SF, but not nearly as bad as the bs and lies by most. He has remained fairly consistent in his views.
@Buster Lawless: it’s like whack-a-mole, soon as you track one account down, he’ll pop up with another
@Frank Mc Carthy: ah Frank, replying to trolls with multiple a/c’s about multiple accounts..
@Michale Kane: caught another one here Frank…..reported Id number 22. Try harder troll!
@Buster Lawless: What section you report it under pal ?
Would ya ever stop with the hypocritical-wolf-crying for a minute.
when they see the number of your comments v’s mine they can decide whom is the troll lol ..
@Buster Lawless: Be quiet. Embarrassing yourself is not a good look.
@Michale Kane: good one Brenda
Sweet god .. doesn’t deserve a comment .. yet here I am
@john diggly: it’s mind boggling arrogant isn’t it? It’s like a sketch.
@john diggly:
Playing to his audience, the conservative party membership.
@john diggly: I agree it’s difficult to not say something… but this person is probably the most radical racist since Enoch Powell, or Hitler, mind you the other bird while coloured is feckin nuts and today agreed she needs to tone down her speech…..
Personally I’m delighted as those types need a good kicking.
@P. J.: you’d be surprised how many in GB think this way, probably because they are not told the truth in history class
@Dermot Blaine: No society or education on history tells the truth and we too are as guilty as everyone else.
” Learning from History ” is probably the most useless saying ever….
@Paul O’Mahoney: true enough
@Dermot Blaine: Not even close, I was visiting family in the UK and read my cousins school history book. I love history and I wanted to learn more.
It was horrific, they glossed over everything they ever did!
@Gary Kearney: yeah another opinion that frankly is wrong.
@Dermot Blaine: after a recent documentary about the Irish Famine many of my UK friends told me they knew nothing about it as it was never taught in school. Equally a documentary on the Massacres in India by the British Military was a complete revelation to them. Most didn’t know that “the Colonies” of the British Empire we’re promised passports and entry to the UK, which is why people from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh came in the 1960′s and the West Indian’s were offered work, hense the Windrush generation. The UK ruled places like South Africa, Rhodesia/ Zimbabwe, Kenya etc. When they gained independence look at what happened? Most of the African excolonies have huge debt, political instability, poverty, poor infrastructure and services. Britain left with everyone wealth.
This is what the potential next Tory and possibly British prime minister looks like. What has happened to our nearest neighbours? Certainly nothing “Great” about Britain. They’re destined to break up completely if this carry on continues.
@Gearoid MacEachaidh: Nah he nor she will get within an asses roar of power, they could disappear and have Farage in opposition never in power, even the most English I know wouldn’t allow that.
Liberal views are truly where they stand and Churchill was a member of both parties and the Labour Party aren’t a whole lot of good either.
@Gearoid MacEachaidh: The only redeeming feature in this Tory leadership contest is that no matter who wins they will never be British Prime Minister. Within two years the Tory party will cannibalise itself yet again and be the leader Jenrick or Badenoch they will be gobbled up by the swivel eyed loon cult with the Tories.
@Minnie Mouse: Great post
The Life of Brian, and what did the Romans ever do for us, springs to mind
@Kevin Kerr: nothing like it.
@Fergus O’Donnell: replace aqueducts with governance systems or christian values. That’s basically what this tosser is saying
@Kevin Kerr: you tripping chutes?????
@Kevin Kerr: That was the whole point of the joke! Which flew over your head!
Someone remind me to send a belated ‘Thank You’ card to Britain for The Penal Laws. I’d hate to appear ungrateful!!
Robert Jenrick is right, any sort of reparations are a terrible idea. The only person who is going to really pay for it is the taxpayer, who had nothing to do with slavery. It is such a hard concept to understand that taking money from people who had nothing to do with it to give money to people who had nothing to do with it is a bad idea? If you were to give reparations to everyone whose ancestors were slaves, I suspect that you would have to give reparations to more than half the population around the globe. Millions of Whites were enslaved by Blacks, millions of Blacks were enslaved by Whites, millions of Blacks were enslaved by Arabs, millions of Arabs were enslaved by Asians and so on. There is not one group of people who is absolved of their involvement in the slave trade.
@Frank O’Hara: 100% right Frank. There are still slave markets today in Lybia for one and parts of Africa. Most Construction projects in the middle east are staffed by workers from India, Pakistan etc who are effectively slaves with no rights what so ever, passports confiscated, wages held by gang masters and forced to work in 50 centigrade with no ppe in excess of 70 hrs a week. So next time your in Dubai etc try to spot the indentured workers who keep these places running for paltry wages and in terrible conditions.
@Frank O’Hara: I agree with you Frank. I think the idea of paying reparations to 21st century people for terrible acts committed against their forebears between 200 and 500 years is a preposterous nonsense. In fact, I think it is little more than a squalid attempt to benefit from the treatment of their ancestors. That said, Jenrick is a perfect example of human flotsam. His logic here is both wrong and offensive. I think the Tory party deserves no better than him or Kemi Badenoch – otherwise known as Uncle Tom.
@Minnie Mouse: Come on buddy, calling Kemi Badenoch an “Uncle Tom” because she doesn’t conform to Leftist beliefs is just a tired old racist term to use. The only purpose of that term is to shut down dissenting voices who think that the free-market is better than a big government that taxes and spends. All you are doing is engaging in intellectually dishonest behaviour, trying to discredit her beliefs because she is Black instead of assessing her ideas on their merit. I would be proud to have Kemi as my Prime Minister if I was British and it’s just as well that she doesn’t listen to racists like you who think that Black people ought to all think the same and act the same.
@Frank O’Hara: Millions of white people were not enslaved by black people. Where do you propose this took place and who were the black people?
@seamus: read up on the Barbary pirates for a start and our own history of stolen villages.
@gregory pym: Barbary pirates were mainly Arab not black. and more importantly Muslim.One stolen village, Baltimore, not villages, raid was led by a Dutchman btw. I will repeat, millions of white ppl were never enslaved by black ppl. BS in an attempt to lesson the Atlantic slave trade of white europeans enslaving tens of millions of Africans.
@seamus: 3 million White people were captured by Barbary pirates and were enslaved by Arab warlords and African chieftains. The same African chieftains who captured and sold off their own people to White slave traders. This was known as the Mediterranean Slave Trade and it was just as brutal as anything that happened on the Atlantic Slave Trade.
Be interested to hear what the knuckle-draggers on the “Irish” far right make of this. Should fall nicely in line with their ideology.
@Jessie Pinkman: Left wing, right wing, middle wing, slightly bent wing, chicken wing… All Tories are sc um. No two ways about it.
@Jessie Pinkman: And there it is. When you haven’t a notion what you’re talking about, just be contrary. The Tories are left wing progressives. Good man.
@Louis Jacob: The “‘Irish’ Far Right”?? Please do define… I for one am seriously sick and tired of this b@ll!x@gy labeling of anyone who doesn’t stay up all night singing Kumbaya my Lord
@Jessie Pinkman: I am not sure I get the logic. Ff and or FG have been in power here since the state was founded.
It is now one of the richest in the world.
Very high education standards.
Very high healthcare standards (just in case you care to look)
Very high standard of living in various happiness indices.
What metric are you using for the failure you seem to think is happening?
I expect no more from a pig then a grunt!
They haven’t gone away, you know
I’d expect nothing else. British scu…my, inbred cu..nts
Typical Tory arrogance.
Himself and kemi trying to outdo each other to be the biggest racist
Is it true Coolock Says No have endorsed Jenrick as the next Tory leader?
Perfidious Albion
I’d love to meet this guy face to face to show my gratitude.
Are they never not at it? As a country, a people, there’s some amount of them that have zero self awareness and know nothing of the pain they inflicted on millions of people around the world. “And still they teach you in your school ’bout those glorious days of rule, how it’s your destiny to be superior to me, but if you’ve any kind of mind you’ll see that all humankind are the children of this earth and your hate for them will chew you up and spit you out”.
Robert Jenrick MP have you visited the Island of Ireland in how your empire caused division and people not talking to each other and putting up barricades to stop them from talking to and seeing each other.
@Tommy: Your as bad as him, it’s history and leave it there, let’s get on with the stuff that matters….
@Paul O’Mahoney: You should run for president dude, take over the country, you have answers for so many comments, you air of superiority and greatness knows no bounds, everyone else is wrong and your right, your way or the highway. But keep your FG allegiance secret, their failures would not help your cause..
Ps. Don’t bother to reply, am bored with your daily lame hyperbolic rtheroic and don’t agree with you on almost anything. But do continue to reply to everyone else. I’m sure I’m the only one that doesn’t enjoy your fiction and hysteria.
@Paul O’Mahoney: It’s not history,it’s now.
@Paul O’Mahoney: Sorry Paul, but a lot of our recent history with Britain needs to be looked at and apologised for. They can’t get away with it or they’d do it again.
@Paul O’Mahoney: those that ignore history are bound to repeat it!!!
Britains legacy of murder rape and pillaging in multiple lands should never be swept under the blanket of time!!!
@Michale Kane: I’ve touched a nerve obviously, history isn’t important it’s already defunct once it happens.
My view is that living now and taking care of those you love is far more important than using the past to live, it’s oxymoronic .
I know I don’t know everything and will happily go forward and learn more, but I’ll never be shackled by the past……
Have a go , shit happens the trick is not to carry it around as an excuse.
As for running for Presidency or office nah I find people, especially like you intolerable and simple minded.
@Any Name: more Rethoric
@Mona Murphy: And that would achieve what? Honestly I’m not a fan of what went on during the 800 years, but why didn’t we at least try…a few uprisings the most significant in 1916 that lay the foundation of why we are discussing this…..be grateful for what the others did , but what have we done……nothing except accept and spend hours trying to be angry
@Daniel Roche: What the English are our overlords and we are subjects of a great empire…..rebuke if you can….but what you type is nonsense.
@Paul O’Mahoney: No idea what that means , but I’ll try and say this we are now an independent country for over a century and we should be proud of that….the ills we face aren’t from occupation it’s mental…. .the feckin submarine was invented by an Irishman, global navy’s created by Irish men and we built the world essentially and yet we look back , there’s an issue there.
Indeed they do. Look at Australia, prime example which thrived since they created a civilised society.
@Buster Lawless: oh look, yet more amateur level trolling/attention seeking from Buster, Frank, Kevvy, Brennjam etc and so on
@Kevin Kerr: here is king troll multiple account number 17
@Kevin Kerr: this special ‘ immunity ‘ all your stupid trolling & stalking accounts will only get you so far……. genuine posters on this site are WELL aware of all your makes puppy names….brendan o brien, brendans mother, chutes, d peado & of course ‘ kevin kerr’….. the REAL kevvy has stood up to you round for round & exposed you for the juvenile muppet you are
@Buster Lawless: in fairness he/she/ they really ARE the gold standard of trolling…..unfortunately, spoiling what used to be a very informative & entertaining news source
@Frank Mc Carthy: The average window is less transparent than you, Stephen (and less of a pane).
@Brendan O’Brien: I never knew which one to reply to,…… Is it chutes today??
@Kevvy kerrr: hi Kevvy, it’s a bit ‘fluid’ allright, best ignore
@Frank Mc Carthy: oh look who has just magically shown up? You seem rattled, Frank. How deeply satisfying. Bye now
@Kevin Kerr: hi stalker, AGAIN you’ve just been caught out ..It was the brendan o brain account you should’ve replied from…. hahaha
@Frank Mc Carthy: Funny how one min the Trump bot trolling accounts are attacking the pro Gov trolling bots, next min then supporting the pro Gov trolling bots. All of ye have worsened any debate on the journal. I rarely bother looking at any comments on likes of Trump or SF articles anymore due to the absolute bs and lies spouted.Only plus side is shows ordinary people how low these will go.
@Michale Kane: yes 100% agree, I’ve contacted the journal.ie about the multiple account holders & the juvenile non stop trolling, awaiting a reply
@The Don: excellent timing, thank for proving my point.
@The Don: right back at ya dude lol. Trump supporters eh ! Always crying wolf.
@The Don: we need a good debate on this immediately!! Organise it now!
@Buster Lawless: here’s a hint, whatever your name is. Trolls are supposed to be funny, you just come as a sad loser
@Dermot Blaine: another one looking to join the troll force!.
@Buster Lawless: At the cost of miilions of indigenous lives!
The British royal navy put an end to the trans Atlantic slavery, the world owes the British empire thanks.
Nuts
Amazing that there still exists people who are sneaking regarders of British imperialism
The old guard Brits really are degenerates.
Up their own you know what.
A lot of our railway and fine Georgian buildings are thanks to the Brits, but it came at a devastating cost.
Trying to get votes from the Little Englanders and they will. Sad but their education system is to blame.
Too many of them see the UK as leading the world like the Empire once did.
Now in trade they are a third country and are feeling the pinch as nation after nation give them trade deals which were worse than the ones they had as part of the EU. They also throw in loads of other parts, like immigration and visa wavers.
The Israeli’s should genuflect in appreciation.
And that folks is the absolute essence of ignorance and arrogance.
He probably come from the Etan private school like BOJO where they were churchillian in their attitude and spoke of glorious Empire and rule Britania and God save the king. They’re a bunch of DeGeneres who’s favourite pastime was Buggery and looking down one’s nose at all of humanity. We in ireland are glad we showed them the door
How can one person be so self unaware? What a completely moronic thing to say, a total lack of education on the subject manner. The butchers apron isn’t welcome around the world for a reason.
Leave it to a conservative to say something so horrific… and worse to BELIEVE it.
No one in the UK much cares what the Tories think. Not sure we should either. Unemployable Toffs mostly.
there are no apologies to make.
this is part of history and we are not representing the people in power at the time. the human nature has not changed anyway depending on conflict, cultures and the leaders would erase any population from existence to get what they need if they could. by stating things like that you are paving the way to more troubles for us…
This man’s reasoning aside, is there a viable comparison between the well-to-do-ness of former colonies versus countries never colonized available anywhere?
The arrogance of the British government is beyond compare! Over 200 million killed during their empire period. More than Mao, Joe and a certain Austrian, COMBINED. A noble people? My behind!
TURD!
Looks as though the Tories are continuing further down into hole of electoral oblivion.
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