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The Fianna Fail negotiating team. Sam Boal

Contingency plans for another election spark row between Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil

Leo Varadkar is to contact Micheál Martin today over comments made by two Fianna Fáil TDs.

THE GOVERNMENT FORMATION talks have been “damaged” by comments made by two Fianna Fáil TDs who criticised contingency plans that are in motion for another general election, according to Fine Gael.

Yesterday, it was confirmed that Minister Eoghan Murphy and the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government were putting in place plans of how an election could be held in the midst of the Covid-19 crisis.

The plan is understood to detail how voting in an election could be held over a number of days, with cocooners getting a postal vote.

Fianna Fáil’s Barry Cowen and Thomas Byrne reacted to the plans, with Cowen stating that he hoped the plans were not being made. 

“If true it smacks of bad faith, selfishness and putting party before country!” he tweeted.

Byrne said it was “utterly sick” for polling to be carried out in nursing homes.

In a statement today, Fine Gael said talks with Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael were going well.

It continued to defend the contingency planning:

“Yesterday, it was reported that officials in the Franchise section of the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government were making contingency plans for polling in the coming months. 

“The Constitution and the law are clear on this. Elections, by-elections and referenda must happen within defined timeframes once vacancies arise. There is no specific provision for public health emergencies (eg pandemics) envisaged in the Constitution or the law. Officials were only doing their jobs by scenario planning for all eventualities.”

The Fine Gael statement said “the fact that this prompted an attack on Fine Gael by two senior Fianna Fail spokespeople was unwarranted and has damaged the talks process”.

“It is also rather ironic that one of the two had recently claimed falsely that both parties had agreed to hold a referendum within weeks of forming a Government, presumably during a pandemic,” said the party. 

Fine Gael highlighted that by-elections have to happen within six months of a vacancy occurring, while a referendum must be held not less than 30 days and not more than 90 days following the passing of a Constitutional Amendment Bill by both Houses of the Oireachtas.

A general election should take place not later than 30 days after a dissolution of the Dáil, Fine Gael pointed out.

The statement concluded by stating that the leader of Fine Gael Leo Varadkar would contact Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin today about the matter.

Speaking on Newstalk’s On The Record With Gavan Reilly, the Green Party leader Eamon Ryan said says doesn’t think the”public would look too kindly” on anyone looking for another general election.

A source close to the talks said that the Greens should grab the chance of going into government with both hands, stating they might not get anothe chance for many, many years to come.

Talks between the parties are set to resume next week, but concerns are mounting that even if the parties agree to a programme for government, they might have trouble convincing grassroots members to sign up to a coalition.

Each party must get approval from their respective members if they are going to enter into government together. 

It is understood that if talks do breakdown, before the prospect of an election is broached, pressure could be put on Fianna Fáil to talk with Sinn Féin, something Micheál Martin has categorically ruled out.

One Fine Gael TD said President Michael D Higgins might not view the prospect of going back to the people in the middle of a pandemic too kindly.

Speaking to RTE’s Today Show during the week, Fianna Fáil TD John McGuinness said Fianna Fail now has to consider going into government with Sinn Fein and Fine Gael as the current discussions are “not realistic”.

“They should get on with it and start talking. If we don’t do that,  and maybe the reason why we have no government, is because we continue to talk to Fine Gael and to the Greens with no real outcomes emerging,” he said.

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    Nov 1st 2024, 11:00 AM

    This was hilarious

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    @J B: blame the parents

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    Nov 1st 2024, 11:49 AM

    So something on the internet wasn’t true?! By golly.

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    Nov 1st 2024, 11:14 AM

    It’d be easy to weaponise this, start a riot, let off a bomb or something. If you think about it, it’s scary how easy it was to manipulate thousands of people. Thought it was hilarious myself until now, knowing it wasn’t just some donkey having a laugh.

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    Nov 1st 2024, 11:21 AM

    @Fionn Bohane: I’m honestly not having a go at you, but what you just posted about “thousands of people” from an article saying “hundreds of people” is how this false information gathers legs.
    It’s so easy for any of us to unwittingly add fuel to these cons.

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    Nov 1st 2024, 11:26 AM

    @Aidan Boland: Ya I noticed that after I posted in fairness. I’ve see thousands reported else where, including a comment on here last night from someone who said they were there. So unless someone was on the ground counting we won’t really know will we?

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    Nov 1st 2024, 12:39 PM

    @Fionn Bohane: even with “only” hundreds of people, if a bomb had been set off it would have been carnage, what with no adequate garda presence. One just hopes it wasn’t a trial run for more sinister things.

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    Nov 1st 2024, 12:45 PM

    @Jerry LeFrog: now there’s a scary thought

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    Nov 1st 2024, 5:57 PM

    @Aidan Boland: You can see that it’s definitely thousands rather than hundreds by simply looking at the pictures and footage. You’d fit 100 people in the porch of the GPO ffs.

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    Nov 2nd 2024, 9:04 AM

    @Fionn Bohane: yes the government did the same with COVID.

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    Nov 1st 2024, 11:02 AM

    More like April 1st prank.

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    Nov 1st 2024, 11:26 AM

    @Wood Jackson: you got it in one my friend.

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    Nov 1st 2024, 12:07 PM

    There was another false rumour spread that there would be a great big bake off competition,those attending would be given free slices of cake! Apparently there was hundreds and thousands there

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    Nov 1st 2024, 2:09 PM

    If that’s not a dry-run for a terrorist attack I’ll be very surprised. How easy was it for them to gather hundreds of people in one place with no security or Garda presence? I’d be delving into that one if I were in a position of power. Take note.

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    Nov 1st 2024, 11:13 AM

    Sheeple with the inability to read.

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    Nov 1st 2024, 7:54 PM

    @Nemethon: Oh they can read but they believe what they read on social media!

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    Nov 1st 2024, 10:58 AM

    Why is the article headlined with ‘ Pakistan ‘???

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    Nov 1st 2024, 11:01 AM

    @Frank Mc Carthy: read it and you will discover. It’s called learning

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    Nov 1st 2024, 11:02 AM

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    Nov 1st 2024, 11:12 AM

    @Frank Mc Carthy: were you one that was at the fake parade last night or just have the inability to read detail.

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    Nov 1st 2024, 11:37 AM

    I’ve heard they have planned another one for 17th of march….be careful out there… there are some terrible scams going around!

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    Nov 1st 2024, 12:26 PM

    At first, I thought it funny as this crowd might’ve been the same folk that tried “free money” from the boi atms last yr. (& I’m genuinely sorry if you did bring along your kids last night).
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    Nov 1st 2024, 2:05 PM

    Apparently, someone saw the usual crowd of city centre zombies, witches, Hamas terrorist costumes and dodgy looking east Europeans Africans and Afgans so they mistakenly thought that it was a special event for Halloween.
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    Nov 1st 2024, 11:35 AM

    It was an AI generated event then which is incredible really, “a slop site”. For anyone curious look up the dead internet theory. Unfortunately the internet is bøllixed.

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    Quite scary how this happened???

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    Hey, but it was announced on social media, it must be true!

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    Nov 1st 2024, 12:45 PM

    Did Dublin city centre have a Halloween Parade? Seems like the public were keen to come into the city for a parade and spend some time and money in the city. Has the Nighttime Tzar already given up?

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    @Mickey Quinlan: we used to not sure if there was this year

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    @Wood Jackson: also threatened to rxpe a prison officer

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    Gullible Dublin Sheep !

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    @Lulu: As if boggers wouldn’t have been taken in if this was advertised as happening in some cow shit smelling culchie town. LOL

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    Nov 1st 2024, 6:43 PM

    @Ciaran O Donoghue: they are

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    Nov 1st 2024, 7:56 PM

    @Ciaran O Donoghue: So do the doctors and medical experts!

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    Nov 1st 2024, 1:36 PM

    Because they have zero intelligence. The future is bleak with this lot….

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    Nov 1st 2024, 1:00 PM

    It was on TikTok so it must’ve been true.

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    Halloween horror as Kerry village terrorised by rampaging youths.
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    Nov 1st 2024, 2:23 PM

    You can con some of the people ,some of the time,more of the people most od the time,but not all of the people all of the time.!!!!!

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    Nov 1st 2024, 7:48 PM

    @Elizabeth Doyle: de Valera conned all of the people for most of his life

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    Nov 1st 2024, 1:25 PM

    So basically like a regular Dublin Bus experience.

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    Nov 1st 2024, 12:02 PM

    Are people for real

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    Nov 1st 2024, 1:26 PM

    Is it because they aren’t that bright

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    The Pooka of mischief strikes at Halloween. Hahahahahaha!

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    Nov 1st 2024, 3:52 PM

    It’ll be up there with the ‘Spaghetti Trees’ ‘War of the Worlds’ and ‘Whale Pearl Regurgitation’ pranks in media history!

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    Nov 1st 2024, 1:08 PM

    Things like this definitely don’t affect elections. Definitely not.

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    Nov 1st 2024, 6:48 PM

    Lemmings

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    Sheep, proven more and more each day.

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    Nov 1st 2024, 1:30 PM

    NPCs doing what NPCs do!

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    NPC side quest!

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