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Harris and Donnelly to meet representatives for children on waiting lists for spinal surgeries

The Taoiseach and Minister for Health are to meet with parents and groups representing children on spinal waiting lists over ongoing “issues” in the provision of the children’s care.

PARENTS AND REPRESENTATIVES of children who remain on prolonged spinal surgery waiting lists, are to meet with the Taoiseach, the Minister for Health, the head of the Health Service Executive, as well as the head of a HSE task-force on children’s spinal surgeries, on Monday, over ongoing “issues” in the provision of the children’s care.

A notice published on Children’s Health Ireland’s (CHI’s) website, on September 13th, stated that CHI – which is responsible for the provision of care of children in hospital in Ireland – was not in a position to publish its own spinal surgery waiting and activity lists for last August, which were due to be published on Friday, 6th September.

CHI has apologised and said that publishing the lists was “regrettably delayed because it was aligning the lists with a “reporting structure” currently used by the National Treatment Purchase Fund, a government body, which was established to decrease waiting lists in the Irish public healthcare system.

“We apologise for this delay and we intend to publish the report as soon as possible,” CHI stated on its website.

The latest figures published by CHI last July, showed that 287 children were waiting for spinal surgery as of July 26th.

These figures showed that 258 spinal surgical activities had been undertaken up to July this year, which weee described as “spinal fusion” procedures and “spinal other”.

Parents and child spinal advocacy groups have been sent correspondence from the office of the Taoiseach, seen by this reporter, to attend a meeting at government buildings, at 3pm, Monday “to discuss paediatric spinal issues”.

The meeting is to be attended by Taoiseach Simon Harris, the health minister Stephen Donnelly, the head of the HSE, Bernard Gloster, Dr David Moore, head of the HSE’s paediatric spinal task force, “and all their respective teams”.

One of the advocacy groups invited to the meeting is OrthoKids Ireland, which is made up of parents of children on the waiting lists for spinal surgery, as well as other orthopaedic/limb reconstruction surgeries.

Ahead of Monday’s meeting, OrthoKids Ireland sent a petition to Minister Donnelly containing 1083 signatures, calling for the “immediate resignation of the board of Children’s Health Ireland (CHI)”, over its handling of the prolonged waiting lists.

It claimed the board of CHI had “presided over the catastrophic collapse of paediatric orthopaedic care in Ireland, leading to irreparable harm, permanent disability, and even life-threatening conditions for some of the most vulnerable children in our society”.

The group argued that the Board of CHI had “profoundly failed” to fulfill its responsibilities under the Children’s Act, 2018, and had “failed to adopt the highest standards in its duty of accountability to the Department of Health and the Minister”.

It said children with complex orthopaedic conditions are suffering “irreparable damage” due to prolonged waiting lists.

The Minister for Health has previously admitted that health service has “failed” children on spinal surgical waiting lists.

Despite pledges by the Taoiseach in 2017, when he was Minister for Health, and by CHI, that no child would wait longer than four months for surgery, children continue waiting years for surgery while their conditions worsen.

Minister Donnelly told CHI last month that a commitment it had made to significantly reduce the waiting lists had “not been delivered on”.

Minister Donnelly said successive governments had “failed these children repeatedly and over many years” despite allocating “substantial financial resources to support CHI in managing and driving down the waiting lists”.

Minister Donnelly is also awaiting a HSE audit report, that he ordered eight months ago, into where exactly CHI had spent €19m the government had allocated to it to rescue the waiting lists.

Last July Minister Donnelly said he is aware that the money was spent “far more broadly across CHI”.

OrthoKids Ireland accused CHI of having “utterly failed” in resolving the waiting lists debacle.

It claimed waiting lists continued to climb, and limb deformity and reconstruction patients feel “abandoned” by CHI.

Last month, the parents of eight-year old Dublin boy, Harvey Sherratt, who has life-threatening scoliosis (curvature of the spine), was removed from CHI’s ‘urgent waiting list’ for spinal surgery without his parents being informed.

OrthoKids Ireland have claimed there is a lack of appropriately qualified surgeons in paediatric orthopaedics to perform surgery on children with the most complex forms of scoliosis.

This was also stated to this reporter by Professor Damian McCormack, the lead paediatric orthopaedic consultant surgeon at Temple Street Hospital, which is run by CHI.

“The gravity of this situation cannot be overstated, as it represents one of the greatest physical abuse of children in the history of the state and a betrayal of trust for families relying on the healthcare system for their children’s needs,” OrthoKids Ireland said.

It has called on Minister Donnelly to “establish a new, independent inquiry into CHI’s governance and operations”.

When asked for a response on OrthoKids Ireland’s comments, a spokesman for Minister Donnelly replied: “The Minister has no role in the internal Human Resources processes of CHI or any other hospital.”

CHI did not respond.

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    Mute Nigel Hayden
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    Oct 6th 2024, 2:21 PM

    Just get the kids sorted

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    Mute Mick O'K
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    Oct 6th 2024, 2:26 PM

    What is the point in this other than a (bad) PR stunt. These children need help immediately not talking about it actual help

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    Mute Pat Hazzard
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    Oct 6th 2024, 4:21 PM

    @Mick O’K: point of this is to get the kids the surgery they urgently need

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    Mute Joe Mc Dermott
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    Oct 6th 2024, 4:57 PM

    @Pat Hazzard: they urgently needed it 5 years ago

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    Mute Toyo Ke
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    Oct 6th 2024, 5:09 PM

    @Joe Mc Dermott: Urgent? Donnelly still waiting on HSE audit report requested 8 months ago for €19m the HSE allocated to rescue waiting lists. Thee is no urgency. A b0m6 under their așșeș wouldn’t get things moving.

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    Mute Tom Newell
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    Oct 6th 2024, 9:24 PM

    @Pat Hazzard: will he though, or will it be another report by some overpaid clipboard merchant in the hse who will pass it on to another overpaid admin and still nothing gets done

    Kids surgery no money or will to get sorted……pouches for phones in schools and a 9million fat contract for some mate of FFG sorted

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    Mute Niamh Healy
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    Oct 6th 2024, 3:05 PM

    Really not acceptable at this stage. They have run out of excuses. It may be too late for some of these children!

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    Mute Michael Andrews
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    Oct 6th 2024, 2:29 PM

    Good luck to the Reps. Meet
    ing the two most experienced soo@fers in the cabinet.

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    Mute Jonn
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    Oct 6th 2024, 3:23 PM

    Billions for far left NGOs,but sick kids will just have to wait,unfortunately!

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    Mute Sean Hayes
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    Oct 6th 2024, 4:10 PM

    @Jonn: What NGO got billions?

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    Mute Toyo Ke
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    Oct 6th 2024, 6:27 PM

    @Jonn: The HSE gave €19m to sort out the waiting list, now they’re looking to see where that went? If it weren’t so serious it’d be a joke.

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    Mute Jonn
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    Oct 6th 2024, 7:35 PM

    @Sean Hayes:
    The NGO sector overall, Sean, as you know full well I meant! Is spending on the bloated and largely useless sector now running at 7 or 8 billion a year? That would send a lot of sick kids to private clinics in the US or Europe to get the treatment they badly need!

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    Mute GoodBrother
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    Oct 6th 2024, 3:00 PM

    FF and FG voters should be forced to meet with these families. Cowardly voting and then pretending like the misery in this country isn’t their fault. If you are going to repeatedly uphold this government, you should be made to answer for it.

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    Mute Jimmy Kiely
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    Oct 6th 2024, 5:40 PM

    @GoodBrother: This government should be forced to provide all necessary health services to children which is covered under the 2018 children health act, is it not covered in the constitution of our country.

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    Mute did you every wonder
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    Oct 6th 2024, 4:09 PM

    Said it before. Simple solution, ban children waiting lists. Send them wherever in the world as needed. If a child is waiting for serious treatment for more than a month, the family receives 1 million per months delay. Children should never suffer due to the disfunction health system.

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    Mute Michael o connor
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    Oct 6th 2024, 8:56 PM

    @did you every wonder: it’s not as easy as that. Some kids may not be well enough to travel as the government have left them so long without treatment. My son had he’s operation last year and it was months before he could even get into his bed un aided, how would they get home again from a foreign country?

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    Mute did you every wonder
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    Oct 7th 2024, 12:17 PM

    @Michael o connor: sorry to hear about your son. I hope he recovers soon. True, I was just making a general statement. Just to make the point, this has gone on long enough for the children. No more reports or committees, serious and immediate action needed.

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    Mute Brian D'Arcy
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    Oct 6th 2024, 4:17 PM

    This has been going on for years, why ha ve Fine Gael only paid attention now? Sending children over to England isn’t good enough either, how can it not be done here?

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    Mute Eddie Garvey
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    Oct 6th 2024, 11:31 PM

    @Brian D’Arcy: Because Simon is taoiseach, Simon was the one who met these people and promised to help them, then Simon ticked a box and never thought about these kids or their suffering again until it raised its head when he became taoiseach, the optics look bad so he has to do something now. The whole story and timeline tells you all u need to know.

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    Mute Michael o connor
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    Oct 6th 2024, 2:26 PM

    Frauds amd liars!

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    Mute Jimmy Kiely
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    Oct 6th 2024, 5:22 PM

    Cherish all the children of our nation, not just the ones that can afford a healthy service. The €99.1 million that they gave to the horse and greyhound industry in the budget would go a long way to sorting some of the children on waiting lists.

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    Mute N D K
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    Oct 6th 2024, 4:11 PM

    Yea only took four years to meet them ye weasels

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    Mute Pat Hazzard
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    Oct 6th 2024, 4:22 PM

    @N D K: wrong, CHI was given all the money they requested by Govt to end the waiting lists, but CHI failed to do that

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    Mute SV3tN8M4
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    Oct 6th 2024, 6:14 PM

    The families should take any promises these two make, with a pinch of salt. Let’s not forget Harris previously promised Children with Scoliosis & their families, that no child would wait no longer than 4 months for surgery, we all know how that turned out. As for Donnelly & his side kick Robert Watt, the Health Service is at the point of collapse under their watch. You are no longer safe entering an Irish Hospital anymore as the tragic cases in Limerick & Cork have proved. This is really a PR stunt prior to the General Election, to appear as if they are tackling a problem, when they have already failed Children.

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    Mute Spanner
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    Oct 6th 2024, 5:41 PM

    If they lived up to their promises they lives of these children and their families would have dramatically changed for the better. How many times do people have to beg for these promises to be met.

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    Mute Chutes
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    Oct 6th 2024, 5:08 PM

    Not meetings, funding and action please! You already know the problems or you’re not doing it right, though I guess that much is abundantly clear!

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    Mute The next small thing
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    Oct 6th 2024, 6:15 PM

    @Chutes: They did fund it but the CHI spent the money they were given to deal with the waiting list. Now why it’s taken 8 months and counting to carry out an audit to see where the money went is crazy.

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    Mute Richard Starling
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    Oct 6th 2024, 6:05 PM

    More lies and empty promises, followed by doing absolutely nothing.

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    Mute Spanner
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    Oct 6th 2024, 5:51 PM

    Children to be sent to a world class scoliosis treatment center in America. It’s the Irish solution to all problems, throw money at it instead of creating the facilities here. How much has been spent sending adults and children abroad to shorten waiting lists rather than actually fix the issue’s

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    Mute MN
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    Oct 6th 2024, 5:37 PM

    They could just get the kids the attention they need..

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    Mute Karen Marten
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    Oct 6th 2024, 6:57 PM

    And talk. More…just get the 9 mill off Nora and help those poor kids

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    Mute Margaret Deacon
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    Oct 6th 2024, 8:00 PM

    My sister in her 50s also waiting for surgery

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    Mute Eddienowy Byrne
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    Oct 6th 2024, 6:37 PM

    More spoof from the number one spoofer

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    Mute Tom Newell
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    Oct 6th 2024, 9:25 PM

    just say instead of surgery they need a few pouches for school kids phones during class…..I hear we have 9 million for that lying around

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    Mute J O c
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    Oct 6th 2024, 8:05 PM

    Total lies …. has Simon kept his last promise ?

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    Mute Gavin Smartr
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    Oct 7th 2024, 8:50 AM

    The sooner they can put a think tank together so a date can be set for a review panel to investigate weather we need a quango to be set up so the a they can have a panel look into outsourcing this problem to a PR company so the problem can be hidden till after the GE so the next government can set up a think tank……..

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    Mute Paul whitehead
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    Oct 7th 2024, 7:56 AM

    Be nice if they got to meet a surgical team. Are Harris and Martin surgeons?

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    Oct 7th 2024, 12:09 AM

    FFG= Traitors to the Irish people.

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