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Noonan defends first-time buyers plan as critics warn it will create 'bidding war'

Cutting VAT on new homes would have been a better approach, one economist has said.

THE HOUSING MEASURES announced by the Government in the Budget have received a mixed reaction.

One of the main talking points was the help-to-buy scheme for first-time buyers.

When announcing details of the Budget yesterday, Finance Minister Michael Noonan said: “The scheme will provide a rebate of income tax paid over the four previous tax years up to a maximum of 5% of the purchase price of a new house up to a value of €400,000 to first time buyers of new houses.

“Pro-rata rates will apply to lower priced houses. A full rebate calculated on €400,000 will also apply to houses in excess of €400,000 and up to €600,000. No rebate will be paid on houses in excess of €600,000.”

The initiative will apply to new builds only. Noonan said it will help first-time buyers save a deposit. He said he expected the building industry to increase the supply of new affordable homes in response.

The move was welcomed by the Construction Industry Federation, which said that the scheme will help to address “the chronic lack of supply in new builds”.

However, a number of economists have warned the scheme is likely to lead to a jump in property prices as it will increase demand.

David McWilliams didn’t hold back in his Irish Independent column today, saying all the good work done to halt a second property crash was “undone in a day”.

Speaking to TheJournal.ie today, Dr John McCartney, Director of Research at Savills, said the scheme is better for developers than buyers.

There are not enough housing units to go around. First-time buyers are competing with each other. If you give them each €20,000 on the same day the likelihood is that they’re going to react by each bidding more until the €20,000 is exhausted and ultimately the price will go up and up.

“Some people will still be disappointed and the people who win the bidding war will do so at a higher price point.”

McCartney noted the Irish housing market, including social housing, is based around the private sector and, in order to increase supply, building houses needs to be worthwhile for developers.

“We do need to incentivise developers to build because at the moment it’s not worthwhile for them.”

Cutting VAT

McCartney said an alternative to the approach taken by the Government would have been to cut VAT for developers, noting the positive impact the 9% rate has had on the tourism sector.

However, he noted the “optics” of this would not be good.

At the moment the Exchequer is not making any money from new homes anyway, it’s not a big stream of income to forfeit. The problem with that – the optics of cutting VAT – is that it’s very overtly a subsidy to developers.

He added that the approach taken by the Government, although it is likely to increase house prices, is “more palatable from a political point of view”.

“It’s a pity the minority government did not feel empowered to just make the simple argument of ‘Get over yourselves, the practical reality is we need the private sector developers to build’,” and cut VAT, he said.

On Today with Seán O’Rourke, Noonan defended the scheme, saying it will help young couples who are struggling to save a deposit for a house. Noonan described the scenario faced by people trying to get onto the property ladder as “like climbing a sand hill”, saying the rent they have to pay is “a drag on their savings”.

On the same programme, a woman criticised the first-time buyers scheme, telling Noonan her price range is €120,000 to €160,000, meaning she can’t afford to buy a new build.

12/10/1026. Minister Michael Noonan after he meet Minister Michael Noonan after he was interviewed by Seán O'Rourke today. RollingNews.ie RollingNews.ie

Noonan told her the scheme is “designed to help people like yourself put the deposit together”, but she wasn’t convinced.

The minister said the purpose of the initiative is to increase the supply of housing and if he applied it to second-hand homes it would benefit sellers rather than buyers.

Homelessness

As part of the Budget, an extra €105 million is to be allocated for the Housing Assistance Payment (HAP) scheme to deliver 15,000 tenancies. A €28 million increase will see some €100 million being spent on emergency accommodation.

McCartney said while extra funding is to be welcomed, the current housing crisis boils down to a lack of supply, noting many people are in “a really difficult situation”.

He said the increase in HAP funding is “in principle giving renters more money, but not increasing units”.

McCartney said even if people receiving social welfare payments can now pay more, they are still likely to be outbid by other people who can afford to pay more rent.

One positive from the Budget is that we will get more units built. Once builders start building they can start making working capital and will build more. Pretty quickly that becomes self-sustainable.

The Peter McVerry Trust was among the homeless charities to welcome certain aspects of the Budget, but criticise others.

In a statement, the organisation welcomed the additional €28 million allocated to provide additional emergency homeless accommodation, saying: “The new funding is recognition by Government that we need to increase the availability of suitable emergency beds for those in need and to ensure that we respond to the rising numbers in homelessness.”

It also welcomed the additional €105 million allocated towards the HAP scheme, but added: “The impact of this funding and the HAP scheme in general is being eroded because of unrestricted increases in the cost of renting and the lack of security of tenure for tenants.”

Read: Budget 2017: The new first-time buyer scheme ‘will just drive up prices and developer profits

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:35 PM

    Sure it’s just a bit of craic. Although sometimes I don’t know why people bother. Like on this site anytime Northern Ireland is even mentioned in an article you can take it as a given that the same old pointless pissing match will ensue in the comments section.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:43 PM

    Yeah between those who support violence and those who oppose it.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:44 PM

    Yeah but when you’re bored mention NI and watch the fun.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:44 PM

    Stop mentioning it so.. I’m only here to see Mister Fantastic setting red thumb records every day…keep up the shite work,you’re doing awful..

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    Jun 26th 2014, 10:29 PM

    It’s just another of walter mittys (rodgers) accounts.

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    Jun 27th 2014, 9:47 AM

    Mister Fantastic cannot be Richard ,Mike … Where’s Saul when I need him ..

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    Jun 26th 2014, 8:42 PM

    I’ll be 74 years old in September. This website has brought so much highlight to my twilight. I feel like I’m 20 again.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:17 PM

    And here I thought theJournal.ie commenter were a representative cross section of society…

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:22 PM

    Whatever gave you that idea?

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:06 PM

    No i don’t -

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:14 PM

    Only when Richard Rodgers or KKK are on the Fascist prowl !!!!!!!!

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:18 PM

    Does it ever embarrass you that SF support is only ever strong in anonymous, online forums. All those multiple troll accounts still only count as one vote each in real life – hence 85% of people not voting for SF in the last local election!

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:31 PM

    “SF support is only ever strong in anonymous, online forums. ”

    Yep, thats why they’re the only party with elected MEPS in each constituency in the country, and have between doubled and tripled their elected council representatives in the last local elections, because they only have strong support in online forums….

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:35 PM

    Doubling and tripling f**l all is still f**k all.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:39 PM

    There’s old Buddhist legend which goes as follows: Imagine a mountain, 10 miles high, 10 miles wide. Every 10,000 years a rook sharpens his beak on the top of the mountain and flies away. When the mountain has been worn down Sinn Fein will be ready to enter government.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:39 PM

    Will all yee stop piggybacking off my comment please -

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:43 PM

    @James: Why? It wasn’t very interesting before.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:51 PM

    Because you lot are talking bollox

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:53 PM

    @James: Seems like a natural extension of your comment then.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:55 PM

    On an unrelated topic – Maybe if you spent a little less time cavorting with Madam Palm and her five daughters, you’d be a little more alert.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 8:00 PM

    And the highest Vote of any Political Party in the 32 Counties of Ireland too !

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    Jun 26th 2014, 8:02 PM

    Mister Fantastic – your views are only fantastic – if they were only factual – they would be even more fantastic – now that’s fantastic – isn’t it ?

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    Jun 26th 2014, 8:08 PM

    Ciarraioch, jesus it shows how desperate SF is now if they have to start adding the votes from two different countries. Sure let’s bring China into this while we’re at it. Oh no I guess the communist party has won again.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 8:15 PM

    Why would you take the votes in another country where none of the other parties ran for an election which wasn’t held in that country? Is this how SF is planning to do our Budgets? Well yeah we f**ked up and the country is in massive debt with poor international investment and rising unemployment. But sure when you add in northern ireland it all looks amazing!

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    Jun 26th 2014, 8:21 PM

    Ogra Sinn Fein paint post boxes green in Northern Ireland. They’re nearly a parody of themselves.

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    Jun 27th 2014, 6:48 AM

    When you think about it – former Royail Mail post boxes painted green are a parody of themselves. And yet we still have so many of them.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:16 PM

    Only idiots comment on a forum like the Journal.

    Oh, wait…

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    Jun 26th 2014, 8:11 PM

    I’m managing to comment less than I used to. So hopefully I’m becoming less idiotic!

    The best comments are often by people who don’t comment regularly and who just contribute their own experience to a particular story. Pity there is no filter just for those comments!

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:12 PM

    Occasionally but always regrettably

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:16 PM

    Regrettably for those reading your comments also.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:22 PM

    Applies to your’s aswell Mister.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:48 PM

    Norman, I am really surprised at you writing ‘aswell’.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:51 PM

    Draws them out Patrick.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 8:02 PM

    I nearly have a bet that our good buddy Patrick was the first person to comment ever on the Internet.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:14 PM

    That would explain the general poor quality of thought in comment sections, they give a platform to those with shout loudest and think least. I’m looking at supporters of one political party in particular.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:42 PM

    How does one “shout” in the written format?

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:46 PM

    YOU TELL ME

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:53 PM

    Still can only read your nonsensical reply, no sound.So again how does one shout in the written format?

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    Jun 27th 2014, 1:44 AM

    Ha.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:06 PM

    Never

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:27 PM

    Long time reader,
    First time commenting……

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:19 PM

    It beats trying to get a letter published in the IT, seems to be reserved for those who know someone on the inside judging by the frequency some names get published.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:33 PM

    Maybe try saying something interesting next time. You never know.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:55 PM

    @misterfantastic as I have stopped buying the IT some years ago I am not going to waste my time, prefer this platform instead.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:18 PM

    It’s not the worst minority to be a part of

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:17 PM

    Oh yeah and most people that complete these surveys always tell the truth. They the same spoofers that say they don’t have a telly.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:16 PM

    Obviously didn’t ask anyone here so.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:32 PM

    Only lunatics comment online.

    Sponge monkeys flogle

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    Jun 26th 2014, 8:12 PM

    I never comment on anything online.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:12 PM

    Some people just shouldn’t ….. eyes roll up lol

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:15 PM

    I sincerely doubt that “lol” you claim to have done.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:33 PM

    If you have snapchat I’d gladly send you a lol ….

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:06 PM

    Never! Wait.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:32 PM

    Moriarity is that you?

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:47 PM

    Empty vessel, is that you?

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    Jun 26th 2014, 9:24 PM

    No it’s not. I’ll leave you guessing:):)

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:06 PM

    Yup.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:29 PM

    Look closely at the picture. It says “RT yup”!

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:51 PM

    Well having two i’s on the keyboard would be a bit redundant.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 9:23 PM

    There is no “I” in “the keyboard”

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:45 PM

    i’d never comment on these things but then I’m over 45

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    Jun 26th 2014, 7:49 PM

    Also hard to post using a 2006 version of internet explorer I’d imagine.

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    Jun 26th 2014, 9:58 PM

    Pity the graphic is unreadable. Ongoing issue on this app.

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    Jun 27th 2014, 1:50 AM

    Yes I do, but no-one listens

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    Jun 30th 2014, 12:35 PM

    I think it depends on the sites a person frequents.
    Youtube is terrible for comments recently. The only people who seem to comment are those against whatever the video in question is saying. and then a handful of people defend the point leaving an endless circle or debate. Mixed into that you get some people with strong or radical views posting the same messages on every video related to that topic.

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    Jun 27th 2014, 12:13 PM

    I think it’s fair to say that those responding here are not a representative sample.

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