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'Orange is quite dangerous': Met Éireann explains lack of Red warning for Storm Babet's rain

Parts of southern counties were battered by heavy rains and flooding yesterday.

A STATUS ORANGE rainfall warning was in place for Cork and Kerry early yesterday amid Storm Babet, followed by a Status Yellow warning across the country.

Wexford, Wicklow and Waterford were also subject to an Orange warning for several hours in the afternoon.

Parts of the affected counties were battered by heavy rainfall, such as Midleton in Co Cork, where members of the Defence Forces were deployed as buildings flooded and roads were cut off.

Some locals and representatives have questioned whether a Status Red weather warning should have been sounded. ”Met Éireann must urgently explain why no red level weather warning was issued,” Cork East TD James O’Connor wrote on social media

In Scotland, which was also hit by the storm, a Red warning was issued for the first time since Storm Denis in 2020.

Met Éireann’s Chief Hydrometeorologist Eoin Sherlock has explained how the national forecaster decides what type of warning to issue ahead of an extreme weather event.

Speaking on RTÉ Radio One’s Morning Ireland earlier today, Sherlock said that Met Éireann uses Irish and European weather models to inform its predictions.

In the case of Storm Babet, the model guidance was suggesting that it would be Orange warning conditions, he said.

There were a couple of weather stations where it “crept into Red territory”, he said, but most were within the threshold for Orange or even Yellow warnings.

“The way we do it is we look at, is it going to be a widespread event? Will it affect all of Co Cork?” Sherlock said.

Met Éireann describes Yellow warnings as “not unusual weather, localised danger”; Orange as “infrequent, dangerous/disruptive” and Red as “rare, extremely dangerous/destructive”. 

“From our perspective, Orange is the second highest warning alert,” Sherlock said.

“We issue storm names when we expect Orange level wind warnings and that’s partly to help the public understand what’s coming, so if we issue an Orange warning for wind or for rain, it really is [a situation where] ‘I better check out my surroundings, I better think hard about what’s going to come.

Sherlock said that the thresholds for weather warnings and how Met Éireann communicates about them will change as Ireland’s long-term climate also changes.

“Every 30 years we look at the climate and for every 10 years we look at the climate averages. What that means is we look at what’s happened over the last 30 years -0 so that’s 1991 to 2020 — and we do some analysis,” he explained.

A Red warning would probably correspond to the highest 1 or 2% of rainfall events. An Orange warning would be probably the 95th percentile.

“The climate has changed, there’s no doubt about that, that’s unequivocal. We’ve gotten warmer; we’ve seen temperatures increase by point seven degrees since the last round of climate averages in the last 10 years,” Sherlock said.

“We can expect more extreme rainfall because the temperature has increased. So, what we’re doing now is we’re looking at the thresholds that we have for the warnings and are going to change them in reflection of what’s happening in the climate,” he said.

“For example, the Yellow wind warnings, we’ll move up the lower threshold in particular by five kilometres per hour, so I think it’s 50 to up to 55 kilometres per hour. We’ll still warn people about that in our forecasts, but for the weather warnings, the threshold [will be different].

“Another thing that we’re trying to do is to look at not only what the weather will be but what the weather will do. If you’ve been looking at our warnings over the last couple of days, we have been warning about flooding and we’ve been warning about difficult driving conditions.

“Maybe people don’t understand what 80 kilometre per hour winds are, but if we if we can inform people that there’s going to be flooding, they can take the necessary steps.

“As a quick recap: Orange is quite dangerous. There’s only one or two millimetres between an Orange rainfall warning and a Red.”

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    Mute Barry
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    Jan 17th 2013, 10:38 AM

    I’m pretty curious how an accident happened on this road

    The stretch between Kilkenny and Danesfort is a good wide road, no sharp turns or anything like this. I’ve driven, ran it and cycled it and never had any problems.

    Makes me wounder what exactly happened

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    Mute Jason Culligan
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    Jan 17th 2013, 1:10 PM

    3 cars on a straight road. I hate to speculate but it could have been a collision caused by overtaking. It’s the only scenario that I can think of that makes much sense.

    Terrible shame all the same. Something really needs to be done about the Irish driving system. Not learning how to drive on a motorway is embarrassing and dangerous.

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    Mute Barry
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    Jan 17th 2013, 1:21 PM

    Jason, you know this crash took place on the N10……it isn’t a motorway.

    The vast vast vast majority of accidents that happen in Ireland happen on all the other roads other then motorways, if anything you are safer on a motorway.

    This incident took place on the N10 which is a national road.

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    Mute Bilbo Baggins
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    Jan 17th 2013, 1:43 PM

    Yeh that part of the road was straightened about 10 -12 years ago. I’ve noticed recently that there have been some serious accidents on straight stretches like this, hard to understand. Like what happenes outside Tullamore. Bad roads either side but accident happened on the best part of the road..

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    Mute Bob Thebuildr
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    Jan 17th 2013, 4:09 PM

    It could also have been from tailgating then last minute swerving onto oncoming traffic. Or motorist entering from minor road and not yielding, or using mobile phone. Or avoiding a pedestrian or cyclist.

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    Mute Fozz
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    Jan 17th 2013, 4:10 PM

    I’m no expert but I reckon accidents happen either due to some sort of vehicle failure/road issue (that is, a physical outside interference) or due to driver error (that is, driving outside the lane, driving on the phone, hands off the wheel, no seatbelt, tailgating, overtaking….all that sort of stuff…basically what we can group together as ‘bad driving behaviour’).

    As far as I know we never get details of what caused accidents so therefore we get no message out to the public as to what to not do. Sure we all know driving like a madman is dangerous but there is a disconnect between the behaviour and the possible results.

    Apologies if this seems insensitive to those involved in this particular accident…I am not suggesting any wrongdoing here.

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    Mute Pat Kirwan
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    Jan 17th 2013, 6:45 PM

    Very true. The sooner people in this country realise that a driving license is simply that, a license to drive. It is not an automatic right when you turn 16/17. A license which can and will be taken away from you if you drive badly. What is the difference between a loaded gun and a 1.5 ton car when both are put in the hands of the wrong person.

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    Jan 17th 2013, 7:12 PM

    Brighter street lights and more street lights on all roads would also help I think

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    Mute Ann Maher
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    Jan 17th 2013, 7:20 PM

    Bad fog in area today, I heard. R.I.P Another family grieving !

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    Jan 17th 2013, 10:30 AM

    Yeah i dunno,I’m from KK&all I know is that’s what they’re reporting locally,the investigating officer was on d local news&he confirmed a fatality…RIP

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    Mute Collette O'Leary
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    Jan 17th 2013, 10:22 AM

    Local radio kclr reporting 1fatality & number of ppl brought to hospital…

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    Mute Mathew Gunning
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    Jan 17th 2013, 10:25 AM

    I only marked a thums down as I hope its not true about the fatality and injuries.

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    Mute Sarah
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    Jan 17th 2013, 12:12 PM

    I think you mean Waterford Regional Hospital!

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    Mute Mick Kavanagh
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    Jan 17th 2013, 4:00 PM

    What’s your point?

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    Jan 17th 2013, 4:19 PM

    I haven’t seen it called Ardkeen General in a long time it, I just thought it was strange to see a national news get the name incorrect.

    In fairness, it doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things, especially in a tragedy like this. RIP.

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