They oppose the special criminal court portraying it as if it’s our version of a GITMO Tribunal when it’s the exact same as any other Irish court but for the lack of jury:
•Weak

•Actively pro defendant instead of objective going needlessly out of its way to go easy on the accused

•Rarely gives the maximum sentence

•Allows minor technicalness to become more important than the actual guilt or innocence of the accused

So like with every other policy area, real life experience shows that the characature they portray doesn’t exist

@Ryan Carroll:

So in other words there is precisely NO connection between the AAA and dissident Republicanism.

@Ryan Carroll:

Or are the U.N also connected to dissident Republicanism in your mind because they too object to the Special Criminal Court?

“The human rights and constitutional implications of the Special Criminal Court must also be analysed. The court has been criticised by the UN Human Rights Commission has highlighting Ireland’s profligate use of the Special Criminal Court as a concerning development, in particular noting its potential damaging effect on the right to a fair trial under Article 14 ICCPR.”

http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/special-criminal-court-2595467-Feb2016/

You have a talent for two things only it seems:

•Responding to arguments people didn’t make
•Cut n paste instead of constructing your own tailored arguments

Potential damage indeed.

No cited cases of abuse or miscarriage of justice
A review of our emergency powers and special courts was made a few years ago, some things recommended that should have been done were not (like a time limit of state of emergency), some were (like prohibition of capital punishment even during a state of emergency), the SCC review found it behaves like any other court.

Nobody need worry about you getting rid of it though as you’ll never be anywhere near having the power to do so, since you prefer to sit on the sidelines and talk. We could have a govt with far more progressive policies right now if you the Indos SF and Lab had offered FF a confidence and supply deal I happen to know you’d have been pushing on an open door with many policies universal healthcare, maintenance of free college, updated labour laws. But you’re all talk

You’re attacking a straw man (I said AAAPBP were involved in the bombing) because you don’t have the capacity to respond to a more nuanced argument (what I was actually saying: that they want rid of the SCC but cases like this prove the courts not extreme at all it’s just as soft as the rest)

@Ryan Carroll:

And this gem:

T”hey oppose the special criminal court ……. when it’s the exact same as any other Irish court but for the lack of jury”

A bit like saying. It’s the exact same as any other bomb except it’s nuclear.

Still what can we expect from someone who believes that a government led by FF will have “progressive policies”?

And again. Just to be sure you’ve gotten the message into your little mind.
There is precisely NO connection between the AAA and dissident Republicanism

I never said there was

You look absolutely ridiculous hysterically and repeatedly responding to something I never said. For the third time I said they both oppose the court

They do t have a jury because organised crime and terrorists used to threaten them (and their families) to get the verdict they wanted. There’s the same rules of evidence (with one exception never used) , same burden of proof etc etc

This is what I keep saying about you being locked in an ideological cage. If someone’s not for 1000% everything you want then NOTHING they do can be progressive. Ever hear the saying never let the perfect be the enemy of the good. FF introduced free primary and secondary school, medical cards, free travel, most of the welfare system, the entire college grant system but for the most recent changes, almost doubled pensions and where did nearly all our labour and anti discrimination laws come from? Not labour who are more right wing in practice than FG Burton and Quinn proved that. Introduced the minimum wage over IBECs hysterical objections saying it would cost thousands of jobs.

But none of that matters because it’s not full blown utopian socialism. That’s why you’re in an ideological cage and why your party will never accomplish anything because you want everything or nothing and don’t think increments or phased improvements are worth it but a minimum wage or medical card made a big difference to REAL PEOPLE in the real world while your kind were off in theoryland

Oh you utter tool tell me you’re not real you could not be that dim you have to be a troll winding me up

I said that IN BRACKETS INDICATING IT WAS A STRAWMAN ARGUMENT YOU WERE REPLYIBG TO BUT I DIDNT SAY!

Jesus I hope you’re not a real person tell me you’re a troll

@Ryan Carroll:

Let me quote you exactly from above:

“(I said AAAPBP were involved in the bombing)”

Now retract immediately and apologize. There’s a good lad.

And stop shouting. It just makes you look like a complete loon.

Read the two set up words before that bracket it tells you what the portion in brackets is referring to, your straw man argument

I’m gonna ignore you now. You are either a troll in which case why feed you or you’re so ACTUALLY stupid you can’t grasp basic conversation like the brackets issue

Either way, there’s no point

@Ryan Carroll:

Jog on FF fanboy. And don’t introduce the AAA into articles about dissident Republicanism in future.

@Patches O Houlihan: Whereas you achieve that in lower case, well done.

@CeannairBlue:
I achieved what I set out to achieve. That is to demonstrate that there is no precisely connection between the AAA and dissident Republicanism despite Ryan’s and Eye-c-u’s insinuations.

@Patches O Houlihan: You get more like a parody of Dave Spart in Private Eye each day. And that’s satire to start with.

You see he’s still replying to an argument (AAA is connected to terrorists) that nobody made while ignoring the actual argument that was being made

Despite it being clarified six times that this argument wasn’t being made he’s still replying to it. I have to assume he’s a troll or mentally ill rather than just badly informed because you can be uninformed but it wouldn’t explain why you keep responding to something nobody said even when it’s been repeatedly clarified they weren’t saying that

So if that’s the case there’s no point discussing anything when someone’s not rational, it won’t enlighten anyone reading this. If he’s a troll…what a waste of someone’s time. Why spend your time basically spamming a news site even to kill time on public transport or something it’s a waste. Either way there’s no point. It has to be one or the other, psychological issue or troll . I’ve seen some nutters in my time (I’ve tried to have rational talk with youth defence which didn’t end well) but nobody could be that irrational it’s impossible

@Ryan Carroll:
And again Ryan. If you attempt to insinuate there is any connection between the AAA and dissident Republicanism I will firmly slap you down. The easiest option is not to introduce the AAA into articles that have precisely nothing to do with us.

But you didn’t slap him down Wally, you made yourself look like a lunatic yet again.

@Ryan Carroll: The Omagh bomb was 230 kilograms (510 lb) of fertiliser-based explosives. This is 1.6 kilos of commercial explosive.

Hyperbole much?

TDs support dissident Republican in court case

FOUR TDs attended a court hearing in support of a dissident Republican who had been convicted of causing criminal damage by daubing an anti-internment slogan on Derry’s historic city walls.

Fianna Fail’s Eamon O Cuiv, Independent TDs for Dublin, Clare Daly and Maureen O’Sullivan, and Independent Donegal TD Thomas Pringle attended the hearing at the Crown Court in Derry yesterday to support local councillor Gary Donnelly who, along with two others, was convicted last year of causing criminal damage and sentenced to six months in prison.

http://indo.ie/3vIkEg http://Independent.ie

So is tossing FF and FG together

If you look at how they’ve governed and their voter base you’ll see a world of difference
FG always had a wealthier support base and big farmers FF more working and middle class they were always a more populist party which is why the Labour Party never took off like the UK as FF stood their clothes in most areas even when in coalition with the PDs (which never would have happened if labour hadn’t jumped ship in mid Dail in 1994 if they’d stayed Ireland would have had a centre left govt all through the boom probably would have made many of same mistakes but might have NOT done a lot that PDs wanted like broadband privatisation hospital collocation…)

A lot of people arnt old enough to really be able to compare them but they’re not the same

Easy look up eirigi on YouTube watch them protest with the aaa about water charges. Look up a few Facebook pages and you seem them all lumped in together at apollo house. You’re welcome