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A THIRD LANE is badly needed on the N11/M11 roadway to tackle increased traffic congestion, according to a report by the Transport Infrastructure Ireland (TII).
The long-awaited report on how to improve the N11/M50, published yesterday, finds that any delay in road network improvements will “constrain growth” and hinder productivity in Wicklow and Dún Laoghaire Rathdown areas.
It recommends a number of key improvements to the road network, which TII states is of vital importance nationally.
“It is imperative that it begins to operate more efficiently,” states the report.
Queues
At present, road users are currently experiencing “significant queuing and delays during the peak periods” at the approach to Bray, finds the report.
Therefore it recommends the dual carriageway be expanded to three lanes from the M50 to Kilmacanoge Junction 9.
The study states that investment in this section of the M11/N11 would address urban congestion, adding:
Any further delay in investment in this section of the M11/N11 will lead to further increases in congestion along the corridor and indeed within the wider area; and will further constrain growth in the north and east of Wicklow and the Dún Laoghaire Rathdown area, as a result of reduced competitiveness and productivity.
It is understood the National Infrastructure Plan does not contain money for these improvements, however, it is currently being reviewed.
Fianna Fáil TD Stephen Donnelly previously voiced his concerns about the ever-increasing traffic volumes on the carriageway, which has been in operation since 1991.
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‘N11 is a a car park by 4.30pm’
“The N11 has been coming under increasing pressure in recent years, with gridlock now beginning to appear by 7am northbound. Southbound, it can be a car park by 4.30pm. One factor is more people returning to work, which is the good news,” said Donnelly.
The Wicklow TD said the “network simply isn’t capable of dealing with the additional journeys” adding that the public transport network just isn’t an option for many.
TII states that over the last two decades, there has been significant development in the towns served by the M11/N11 corridor, most notably in Bray, Greystones, southeast Wicklow and north Wexford.
The report finds that traffic volumes have increased to these areas due to the lack of public transport improvements.
“The corresponding improvement to public transport has been limited, with only minor enhancements of rail services, and the sporadic introduction of bus routes which have relied mostly on the response of private operators to a partially regulated market,” finds the report.
Traffic volume
Traffic data collated for this stretch of the M11/N11 since 1998 shows traffic has more than doubled.
In 1998, the annual average daily traffic on M11/N11 at Fassaroe was 33,000, whereas in 2016 it was recorded at approximately 69,000.
In addition, the report also recognised a need for an additional bridge across the River Dargle so as to provide further connectivity between the M11/N11 and Bray.
The location for an additional bridge crossing will require further consideration.
Wicklow County Councillor, Fine Gael’s Derek Mitchell said there have been nine previous reports on the N11, none of which have produced action.
“It is essential that a number of phases are implemented from now otherwise East Wicklow will seize up.”
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A third lane should have been built in the first place. The same with the M7. No forward thinking. Did the planners think the population of the country was going to shrink?
@john culhane: there would have been a 3rd lane but the tree huggers occupied the woods at kindlestown and prevented road widening.
As a result of their action, approx 130000 cars spend an average of 35 mins delayed / parked on the motorway every day, creating a multiple of the pollution necessary. Approx 15 million of tonnes of additional carbon per year pumped into the atmosphere. Multiply that by 12 years.
Goid work by the “friends of the earth”, 100 trees saved in a country with millions of trees.
@john culhane: If it requires an extra lane they should build two. In the US they have a car pool lane that is used one way in the morning and the other way in the evening i.e. whichever way the congestion is – also a minimum of two people in each car to use it.
Instead of increasing housing and infrastructure of an already overly congested and constrained area, why doesn’t the government invest and develop West Wicklow and the N81 corridor? It is completely under utilised and would offer a long term and permanent alternative to craning more people onto the N11!!!
@john culhane: “Planners” is the ultimate myth. They plan thousands of houses where everybody is forced to commute in that misery without even looking at improving a rail link to anywhere along the N11.
But we really need to look at the public transport links, and a 3rd lane on the motorway should be reserved for buses during rush hours. We need to encourage people out of their cars. While also looking at the train situation to Arklow, Gorey, Wicklow, etc.
As Los Angeles has learned, adding lanes just adds more cars.
@Zx5vZulB: We are one of the least forested countries in Europe, and the Glen of the Downs Nature Reserve was, and is, an important site deserving of protection. It is disingenuous to blame current problems on those who fought to protect it when the real problem lies with short sighted, unsustainable approaches to development. Improved public transport, local employment opportunities and a change of approach to city planning – eg going high rise to curtail urban sprawl – would go some way toward improving the roads situation. We can’t just keep on widening roads forever to the detriment of our countryside.
It has been proven worldwide that the fastest way to move commuters and alleviate road chaos is to have an efficient train service.
A regular bus to link Greystones with Luas at Cherrywood would also take cars off the road.
@Tom Joe Ryan: how about extending the Luas to Bray/Greystones? The least they should consider is a second rail line and bring it to Wicklow town. I’m not sure what the uptake would be if the Dart was extended to Wicklow but that would be nice too. Be we can only dream i suppose.
@Craig Bell: The original plan pre bust was for the LUAS to follow the old tram line across the viaduct in cherrywood and out to bray – Without a doubt there should be some link through between the bus routes and the Luas line – at the moment the ignore each other
N11 has been at capacity since they opened it and should have been three lanes from opening -
@brian boru: problem is now the Luas is at capacity at rush hour, it’s built to be able to take light rail. Extending just the Luas to bray would Continue their disconnected thinking. They need to connect the dart within the city so people from any side can reach most parts of the city.
There is 3 lanes on the Naas Road , before and after you come off the N7, I call the 3rd inside lane, my own private lane, because it seems like I’m the only one using it. Adding an extra lane on the N11 will be another colossal waste of money, if people don’t know how to use them.
99% of Irish drivers default to the middle lane if there are 3 lanes. They’ve no clue how to drive.
I commute Enniscorthy to Ashbourne, hitting the M50 at about 5:30am and about 3:30pm or so and mornings I’ve a free lane all to myself.
It’s great when driving towards a slip road and a car joins 200m in front of you and straight away goes into the middle lane so I never need move out of my lane :) lol
@Niall Murray: You shouldn’t be in the far left lane when coming to an exit. It’s there so people can join/leave the M50 with ease. Part of the reason that there is three lanes is the number of cars on the roads, the other part is due to the sheer number of exits on that stretch. The far left lane eases the flow of traffic on and off the M50 at these exits. If you’re not exiting, it’s smarter to be in the middle lane – rather than under-taking cars and causing havoc at an exit.
@Mark O’Connor: all u have to remember here is, we drive on the left as a rule , outside lanes are for overtaking, and if youre exiting to the right, why would u straddle the middle or outside lane, for miles on end. I know you shouldnt overtake on the inside, but frustration gets the better of me, and im still inside the speed limit.
@Mark O’Connor: Mark, it spunds like you’re confusing the extra lane that many motorways have for approaching a junction, with a full third lane all the way.
@Mark O’Connor: if that is case where does the traffic that merges go? Straight into the middle lane for the 2 to 8 km between exits?
Actually I prefer that people go straight into the middle, gives me my own private road in lane 1.
@mark so if someone is joining a motorway 300m ahead of me I need to change lanes?
If they are merging at the correct speed I have no need to change lanes, that’s why there is a few hundred meters there for them to join the motorway, so they can get up to speed….
All the while the railway has a single track from Bre to Greystones built in the 1800s.
Build and they will come/drive, then you can have a 3 lane car park on the N11.
Growth at all costs. No doubt the upper classes of south Dublin will get their way and the money will be found.
How about a toll to finance it?
@james o reilly: There is life beyond Greystones as it’s single track from Bray to Rosslare! Double track & more frequent commuter rail services should help to alleviate road congestion
@wiklagirl: the train out of Wicklow in the mornings is like a sardine can, it’s ridiculous, the current setup is not fit for the amount of people using it.
Better to encourage less cars than to keep appeasing motorists, ruining our countryside. Let it be awkward, we need to discourage cars and the toxic effect they have on our countryside.
@Scundered: The point most people are making in response to this article is that there is no suitable alternative. The public transport options are non existent.
@Mark O’Connor: That’s not what the article is about though, it states a third lane is needed in main headline. The population is expanding fast and they cannot just keep adding cars until we fill this island.
@Mark O’Connor: Plus depending where you’re coming from on the N11, your best public transport option is to drive to the luas stop in Carigmines/Sandyford (both up the m50) and get the luas in. If you were coming from Kilmacanogue say, otherwise you’d need to get 2 buses as the 145 no longer goes to Kilmacanogue and the 133 doesn’t always stop at Kilmacanogue when its full!
@Sledro: No it gets far worse than that. I was stuck in one spot for 20 minutes yesterday morning. Took an hour to get from Kilmacanoge to Loughlinstown.
Brown Envelope to everyone (us ghoys not you lot lol) concerned!!
can I join the tribunal into the why the the contracts where awarded to an offshore consortium backed by Denis O’Brien, the Sisters of Charity and the FG/FF pension fund
In the meantime can I be a consultant to the finance committee I know some vultures who can raise bond paper and who will happily take it in charge, once the taxpayer
has bought the land of my cousin, built it and installed the roll booths!
@Fred Jensen: I can show you that less roads for cars = more commuters walking and cycling to work, more public transport options. Look at the M50, at capacity already with extra lanes and a toll.
A full re-design of the M50 / M11 merge is needed, it’s just not fit for purpose and cannot handle the massive volume of motor traffic now using that road…
Also build an underpass road through Kilmac with a 100kph limit, leave the other road for access to the service station and the R755
What about the “ridiculous” 60km speed limit outbound at Kilmacanogue… ???
Surely that’s the real cause of bottleneck.
by pass the local service stations or shut them down.. as they are the cause of slowing traffic there… a safer solution using a flyover perhaps..
at Kilmacanogue
Clearly defined alternative routes off the M11 earlier might help alleviate the problem while a third lane is being considered. Also a dual carriageway along the coast from Dublin to Greystones should be considered in order to offer an alternative.
@Dub_Right: Well at the moment all that’s on the coastline between Greystones and Wicklow is a strip of grass and sand where people empty their dogs, and a single track rail line. It’s hardly a thing of unique beauty.
@Neal, not Neil.: Ah come on, realistically the suitability, costs, logistics are just too much to overcome just for a road..
I mean, what are they going to do, bulldoze a road through Bray town, the cliff walk and Greystones village?
To cater for vehicles which carry much less people than a tram or train..
Irish politicians have an inability to think ahead and forward plan.
Listen to their language. They talk about a service “needing to be provided” for now. Thye’re always operating after the fact. There’s no thinking about what service needs to be providied 10 years from now.
Politicians try to spread funds across as many vote-friendly projects as possible and as a result none are funded appropriately. A two lane road is a DUAL CARRIAGEWAY but in Ireland they’re motorways! The cost of building a three lane real motorway means less money’s available for other press release/photo opportunities. The last major infrastructure project was Dublin Port tunnel which was KNOWN to be insufficient to accommodate current-generation larger HGV lorries but still went ahead with a restriction on its use. Will this country never learn?
wasn’t there a strategic transport infrastructure plan a decade or so back? as usual flip all strategic in it. This, the carpark that is the M50, the M7/8, the non existent limerick-cork motorway. a rail and bus service that is creaking and breaks down frequently under mild pressure…
We can’t keep just building more roads. The rail service from the south east into Dublin is a complete shambles. We just don’t do infrastructure in Ireland. Vote for Father Ted style politicians and that’s what you get. The endless broadband debacle courtesy of both Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil is proof enough.
Maybe if they took the €400m – €500m they’re set to waste on a third lane and diverted it to upgrading or building a new rail link in that region so it became feasible for people from Rosslare up to Kilcoole to commute to Dublin – then the road traffic problems might ease, the country would be closer to meeting its climate change targets, the planners might avoid more Glen of the Downs protests/delays.
This is the road that was supposed to be upgraded to motorway until Martin Cullen FF got the funds diverted to build a lightly used motorway to his own county Waterford. Forward thinking or politics
A simple low cost solution to improve traffic flow on the Bray M 50 to the Killmac section of the N11 would be to shorten the south bound merge lane from the loughlinstown roundabout all the way to the Bray South exit. This is currently being used as a high speed rat run with probably up to 70% of drivers using it to get ahead of cars in the two legitimate lanes . Another log jam is the speed limit reduction going into Killmacanogue , which is to facilitate the safe merging of traffic exiting the Topaz garage. Send them up to the flyover lane to merge safely on the far side then increase the speed limit to 80 kph from 60 kph.
I’ve driven on both during peak times and the M7 is far far worse. Love the comment about free parking!! Between the M9 exit and J9 Naas you have traffic coming from 4 major cities – Limerick, Cork, Waterford and Kilkenny. Not to mention all the commuters from Laois and Kildare. All crammed into two lanes. How it hasn’t been covered by national media astonishes me.
Widening roads year to year to account for traffic growth is a waste of time. Traffic will always increase and we’ll face the same dilemma every so often. It’s not sustainable. Reduce traffic by investing in public transport that works. Just make sure local politicans are not involved, otherwise we will end up with the usual snouts in the trough squabble.
Not usually one to comment on these things but what about us M7 slugs!! I’ve driven on both the N11 and the M7 at peak times and the M7 is far far worse. You have traffic from 4 major cities – Cork, Limerick, Waterford and Kilkenny along with the Laois Kildare commuter belt all packed into two lanes between the M9 exit and J9 Naas. That’s six lanes of traffic condensed into 2. It’s amazing it’s not covered by national media more often
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