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Robber gets over three years for attacking man who tried to stop woman getting mugged

Thr man had been a self employed painter and decorator, employing staff until he was 19-years-old but then started taking tablets and alcohol.

A ROBBER WHO launched a vicious attack on a “chivalrous and courageous” man who was trying to distract him from mugging a woman has been jailed for three and half years.

Karl Gurr (28) of Gardiner Street, Dublin pleaded guilty to robbery at Royal Canal Park on January 10, 2015. His 64 previous convictions include theft, criminal damage, possession of drugs, trespass and assault.

The victim was walking in the park when he spotted a woman on the path outside the park’s high railings being followed by Gurr.

He saw Gurr wrap a scarf around his face and, suspecting that he was about to rob the woman, he shouted out at him to try and get his attention.

The man warned Gurr he was ringing the gardaí and walked away from him while pretending to be on the phone but unbeknownst to him Gurr had vaulted the park railings and was chasing after him.

The victim called the gardaí while trying to escape but Gurr caught up with him and knocked him to the ground. His attacker tried to kick him but the man managed to grab his foot and knock him over.

A struggle broke out between the pair during which Gurr tried to smash the man’s head off a brick flower bed, a lamppost and the ground.

At one point the victim managed to get to his feet while Gurr was on his back and he pushed his attacker into railings knocking him off.

Gurr continued to punch out at the other man while he defended himself by poking at his eyes and face and grabbing onto his clothes.

He later told gardaí he was terrified that if he was knocked to the ground again Gurr would kill him.

The victim said at one point Gurr spotted his phone and seemed to become fixated on it. He felt that if he let it go the struggle would come to an end.

He let him take the phone and collapsed to the ground before struggling to his feet and staggering to nearby flat complex where he called for assistance.

A victim impact report handed into court outlined that he was later treated for cuts to his head and the attack has had “a profoundly negative effect on my physiological well-being”.

He was due to be interviewed for a promotion ten days after the attack but had to cancel it and subsequently lost his chance of the new position.

He wrote that he was “a normal enough person” prior to the attack but that this had all been taken away from him. He said it had been nine months since the assault and he felt his situation has deteriorated.

Judge Martin Nolan said the victim behaved in “a courageous and chivalrous fashion” when he became aware that there was some threat against this woman.

He said the man had felt secure as there was high railings between himself and the potential mugger.

Judge Nolan said Gurr had savagely attacked the victim and the victim did what he could to protect himself.

He described the victim impact report as “graphic” and noted Gurr’s serious record of convictions before he jailed him for three and half years.

Additional Evidence

Detective Garda Fergal O’Flaherty told Ronan Kennedy BL, prosecuting that he responded to the victim’s 999 call and found him in a distressed state.

He said it was clear he had been assaulted and he got the man to accompany him around the area in an attempt to find his attacker. He later pointed out Gurr and he was arrested.

Gurr was deemed unfit for interview because he was so intoxicated. He later made no admissions telling gardaí he had no recollection of the mugging.

Detective Garda O’Flaherty agreed with Sandra Frayne BL, defending, that Gurr, who was homeless at the time, had clearly taken “a cocktail of intoxicants” that day. He accepted that he looked much improved now and that he came from a decent family.

Frayne said her client asked for an apology to be issued to the victim for “this horrible offence”.

She said Gurr could not remember what he did that night but he accepted that this was “his own doing because of the substances he took”.

Counsel said Gurr had been a self employed painter and decorator, employing staff until he was 19-years-old but then started taking tablets and alcohol. She said he was trying to make the most of his time while on remand in custody.

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    Mute stephen kavanagh
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    Oct 28th 2015, 9:35 PM

    Love the way it’s practically all blamed on the ‘substances he took’ and that the culprit ‘can’t remember’ the attack because of all the bad bad intoxicants. What about the other 64 offences?

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    Mute Niall O' Sullivan
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    Oct 28th 2015, 9:39 PM

    Fair play to the guy. Not sure if a “chivalrous and courageous” description of the man was necessary by the judge as I see blokes stepping in to help people every day of the week in all kinds of situations. If he is in fact “chivalrous and courageous” then so is virtually every single man I know in my personal life.

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    Oct 28th 2015, 9:45 PM

    No I disagree, I was mugged once on Amiens St years ago and hit quite viciously and I could see at least three people scurrying by with their heads down, and to be honest I couldn’t really blame them as the muggers were off their heads even though we’d all like to think we’d step in

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    Oct 28th 2015, 9:57 PM

    I’m no expert on these matters but 64 “convictions” in about 5 years..that would suggest that he got away with many more offences not proven..didn’t his victim say he was hiding his face in preparation for attacking the woman from behind?a one man crime wave.

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    Mute Lloyd Hetherington
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    Oct 28th 2015, 10:30 PM

    64 convictions in about 10 years. Put him away now and save countless people the grief he would otherwise cause into the furture.

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    Oct 28th 2015, 10:49 PM

    The only way to get the govt to act is hit them in the pocket. If the victim, mr Callan sued the state for negligent court sentences or failing to keep him safe due to the amount of convictions, then law would be drafted for minimum sentences

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    Mute Chris Mcdonnell
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    Oct 28th 2015, 10:52 PM

    The blame for this assault lies firmly with judge who in his expert opinion that conviction 64 didn’t see this lowlife locked up for a very very long time.
    The judge who allowed this man free should pay compensation to the victim.

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    Oct 28th 2015, 11:10 PM

    wow Niall you must be very observant .

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    Mute Greg McGarry
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    Oct 29th 2015, 9:31 AM

    @Joachin: The 64 priors were proven… as he had convictions. It’s the other 5000 things he’s done that he wasn’t caught for that are unproven. 64! They should throw away the key.

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    Oct 28th 2015, 9:33 PM

    Scobie should have got longer.

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    Mute Joachin Peiper
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    Oct 28th 2015, 9:36 PM

    64 previous convictions…a busy psychopathic chap..

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    Mute John Michael
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    Oct 28th 2015, 11:28 PM

    He paid someone to do a bit of painting years ago and suddenly he had his own business and employed staff. Pull the other one.

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    Oct 29th 2015, 12:21 AM

    Imagine being the solicitor bullshiiting your way to a more lenient sentence.

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    Mute Colin Moran
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    Oct 28th 2015, 9:44 PM

    I’m generally proud of this country and its people – the thing that sticks in my craw more than anything is the judiciary and the sentencing. 64 PREVIOUS CONVICTIONS! Serious assault on a decent citizen who probably prevented an attack on a vulnerable woman and this sc@mbag gets 42 months in jail – with automatic remission of 25% he’ll be back on the street in around 2 1/2 years. It’s sickening.

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    Oct 28th 2015, 9:40 PM

    64 previous convictions. Could no one see the trend there like…

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    Mute Rob O'Farrell
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    Oct 28th 2015, 9:45 PM

    Ah yes a true blue Dub -salt of the earth, gerrowra ra.. And it’s all down to the winning combo of ” tablets and alcohol ” Did you ever hear such rubbish in all you life. Sure -he had his own business at 19 until those damn tablets took hold. And they always come from respectable families these beauts. Yea it’s sounds as tho his “mudda and fadda” did a delightful job in raising this gentleman. A doff of the cap to all concerned. Nice name too – Karl. Quality.

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    Oct 28th 2015, 9:54 PM

    Are you trying to say that this only happens in Dublin Rob? Typical small town small mind comment..

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    Oct 28th 2015, 10:34 PM

    Rob, not sure what point you’re trying to make there. Are you sugeesting that this would only happen in Dublin with such a crime only committed by a ‘true blue Dub’. If so then open your eyes bud.

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    Oct 28th 2015, 10:43 PM

    Rob..there are a number of Irishmen born after 1979 who are called Karl instead of the more common John Paul.

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    Oct 28th 2015, 10:56 PM

    Sc**bag no doubt.. But what has his name got to do with it? I know a few Karls and none of them behave like him!

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    Oct 29th 2015, 11:43 AM

    Not many called karol?

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    Mute David G
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    Oct 28th 2015, 9:35 PM

    Why not more

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    Mute Niall O' Sullivan
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    Oct 28th 2015, 9:43 PM

    I wonder of given a choice between homelessness for the winter, or a prison cell with food and a roof over ones head, prison is an actual punishment.

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    Oct 28th 2015, 9:55 PM

    People need better choices.

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    Mute Red Ed
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    Oct 28th 2015, 10:43 PM

    He was targeting his head!!! This was not an assault it was attempted murder. no doubt we will be reading about this guy again in 3 months when he “escapes” from a holiday camp or open prison as they call it. This man clearly has the potential to kill and I doubt a holiday in mountjoy will make him see the errors of his ways.

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    Oct 28th 2015, 10:16 PM

    He puts the gurr in gurrier.

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    Mute Robert Cousins
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    Oct 29th 2015, 12:03 AM

    64 previous convictions….it beggars belief. Reminds me of that Traveller gang who were sent down after the robbing spree in Tipperary. One of the gang was just 22 yet he had 120 prior convictions. 120! The entire gang of 7 had 305 previous convictions….one of them had been banned from every pub in Dublin and had bitten a Garda. Yet they were only given on average 5 years each. And this followed the leader of the gang who had previously been paroled and who went on a crime spree that involved the shooting of three people.

    The judiciary are a JOKE. We have a revolving door where these thugs have no fear whatsoever of the law. They get a rap on the knuckles and are then sent home. Only when they’re up over 50-60 convictions it seems, will a judge finally cop on and impose a sentence.

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    Mute Joachin Peiper
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    Oct 29th 2015, 12:13 AM

    Robert..the penile(sic)reform trust think the system is still too punitive…that prison breaches their human rights…instead,we should expend more “resources” on their rehabilitation..

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    Oct 28th 2015, 11:05 PM

    The justice system in the dock again. 64 previous convictions and he’s walking the streets.

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    Mute Sean O Cadhain
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    Oct 28th 2015, 10:43 PM

    This is the worstly writed article I ever readed

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    Mute Keith Faherty
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    Oct 29th 2015, 12:02 AM

    No apology really evident. Sad.

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    Mute Donal Carey
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    Oct 29th 2015, 9:50 AM

    Gurr meaning gurrier how these guys with 64 convictions surely after 20 it’s time to throw away the key .He will serve a short while the injured party will be a nervous wreck for the rest of his life and will have to spend a fortune on therapy our system sucks .Now can you blame any person for shying away from helping someone in need we live in a sad world .

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    Oct 28th 2015, 10:12 PM

    Was it ever proven that the guy was actually about to rob the woman?
    Was she even aware what transpired?
    Sounds like the victim was holding up well in the fight and in my opinion he should have got a few digs in when he had the upper hand.
    Anyway. Could have been a lot worse.

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    Mute Joachin Peiper
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    Oct 28th 2015, 10:19 PM

    Tommy…good point..he may not have been going to rob that woman but I’d say the 64 previous convictions mitigates against that notion…and I think his entitlement of a presumption of innocence terminates on/with the verdict of GUILTY.and yes,it could have been worse…he could have got away.

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    Oct 29th 2015, 10:19 AM

    @TommyRyder – you’re an idiot !

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    Mute Ronán Donnelly
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    Oct 29th 2015, 12:19 PM

    Google the defense lawyer she has a long history of defending the indefeasible

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    Mute James O Carroll
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    Oct 29th 2015, 3:34 PM

    i was about to say “wow! 3 years for that one attack. now that’s more like it!”
    but then…….i realised he had about 60 other convictions. so now i think 3 years is not enough at all

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