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Karl Murtagh

Mica scandal: Family living in 'falling down house' finds out mortgage has been sold to vulture fund

Just a month before the government announced a redress scheme for the thousands of impacted homeowners, Karl Murtagh was told his mortgage had been sold.

A FAMILY AFFECTED by the use of concrete blocks with mica in their homes was told just weeks before the announcement of a new scheme to assist them that their mortgage had been sold to a vulture fund.

Faced with a choice between paying for repair work to save his home from being condemned and keeping up his monthly mortgage payments, Karl Murtagh (42) decided to get the construction work done and is now €20,000 in arrears.

Murtagh, a chef who lives in Co Donegal with his wife and four children, first noticed cracks appearing in his walls five years ago.

His family is one of an estimated 4,800 in Donegal affected by the mica scandal – with a further 345 in Mayo. 

It emerged a number of years ago that the mineral muscovite mica was present in the concrete blocks used to build a large number of properties in Donegal. This substance impacts on the cohesion of the cement content in the block and therefore the durability of the walls. 

The structural integrity of these properties can deteriorate very quickly and some have already been condemned, forcing the owners to move into rental accommodation while still paying off a mortgage on a house that is not safe to live in. 

Three years ago, Murtagh said an engineer who assessed the structural damage advised he would have to either get repair work done urgently on one side of the house or move out of it.

At this stage the house was already being supported by scaffolding. 

“I really just thought it was the end of the world, to be honest,” he told TheJournal.ie.  He applied to his bank for a loan top-up so he could pay for the repair work.

“I was told they couldn’t because the house was worth nothing.”

Karl Murtagh Karl Murtagh

He had informed his bank from the start about the mica problem – this was after his insurance company had cancelled his policy when he tried to claim for repair work.

Murtagh hired a contractor to do the work anyway and arranged to pay the €17,000 bill to keep that side of the house standing in weekly installments.

The bank agreed to allow Murtagh to pay interest only on his mortgage for a short period but when this expired he was required to pay the full amount.

“So I gave him [the contractor] the mortgage money every month. I had to pay the builder back, I didn’t have the money to pay both.”

In September, he received a letter from Ulster Bank informing him that his loan has been transferred to Promontoria Scariff DAC.

The letter stated that the review which led to the sale of Murtagh’s mortgage was part of the bank’s “continuing strategy to create a strong and sustainable bank for all our customers”. 

His was just one of hundreds of home loans sold to the vulture fund by Ulster Bank. 

‘Falling down with the damp’

The new mica redress scheme announced by the government will assess the damage to affected properties and cover the necessary repairs. Its announcement came after an eight-year campaign by affected families. 

When the scheme was announced, everyone else was jumping for joy about being able to get their houses fixed. And I’m maybe €20,000 in arrears. It came too late for us.

Murtagh said there is still extensive deterioration in his home that urgently needs to be repaired.

“The other side of the house is more or less the same now. My house is rattling to the core, falling down with the damp. It’s all cordoned off on that side, my wee girl is not allowed outside near that side of the house at all.”

He said the government needs to move quickly now before homes deteriorate beyond repair. 

“Now, time is of the essence, I remember the last storm when everyone was sent home from work and my wife rang asking me could I take the night off – I’m a chef so I work most nights. She thought in the storm the house might not manage it, she wouldn’t be like that usually but she was worried that time. 

People know their houses are not going to stand another winter, especially if it’s like the last one. 

‘Banks care little’

David Hall, CEO of the Irish Mortgage Holders Organisation told TheJournal.ie that it is unlikely the vulture fund will come to a sustainable repayment arrangement with the Murtagh family.

“Promontoria is the only fund in the State that doesn’t do mortgage-to-rent… They don’t do restructures of any kind. The way it works is that you are required to pay the full arrears in a lump sum and then you can pay the full mortgage every month but they don’t have a mechanism to allow you to spread it out over a period of time.”

As reported by TheJournal.ie in August, Promontoria, a subsidiary of Cerberus, has confirmed in correspondence that it is not putting cases forward for the mortgage-to-rent scheme. 

In another portfolio sale by Ulster bank in 2016, called Project Oyster, loans belonging to 900 borrowers were sold to Cerberus. Its subsidiary Promontoria Oyster DAC has initiated court proceedings in over 100 cases this year – last year it only initiated four cases. 

The loans in the portfolio Murtagh’s mortgage was part of, known as Project Scariff were sold in August this year. So far, Promontoria Scariff DAC has not initiated any proceedings against affected homeowners and Murtagh said he has yet to hear from the fund. 

In August, Ulster Bank said the average arrears among the 2,300 primary dwelling houses involved in its sale to Cerberus was €61,000. It also said the average number of missed payments was 49.

Hall said Murtagh’s story is an example of the complex circumstances that are often involved in arrears cases, but which are not part of the narrative from banks when they sell the loans.

“One of the most difficult things we deal with every day is when people are telling their stories and they are legitimate and multi-faceted. Banks care little and vulture funds care less, that is what they are ultimately up against.

I have examples of people who are only in arrears of €3,000 and they were sold to vulture funds. It’s a very difficult situation for people like this man and it’s something that this system has missed – that people are human.
This is not just a house and not just a mortgage. There is a whole host of issues people have from personal relationships, finance, health, addiction. And you have cases like this with challenges around structure, fire safety, mica, pyrite.

Hall said he is frustrated by the manner in which lenders “demonise” customers, in particular with comments about a lack of cooperation. 

“Define uncooperative. It could be that the bank said the solution is to sell the house and you said no – that’s uncooperative.

“Maybe your ex won’t sign the paperwork to allow them to assess your circumstances – that’s uncooperative. 

“It is just a genuine, inherent cultural theme in the banks that debtors are in fact sinners.”   

Ulster Bank and Cerberus, of which Promontoria is a subsidiary, did not respond to requests for comment.   

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    Oct 29th 2018, 1:52 AM

    Why isn’t anyone Sueing the manufacturer’s of the blocks

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    Oct 29th 2018, 3:22 AM

    @ed w: It is a shame we don’t have a multi person class action lawsuits in Ireland

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    Oct 29th 2018, 8:08 AM

    @ed w: Still in business too, Buncrana.

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    Oct 29th 2018, 9:51 AM

    @ed w:
    Ultimately they’re responsible, but the sad reality is that if they were sued they’d probably just declare bankruptcy and walk away. That’s the dilemma for these poor families.

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    Oct 29th 2018, 12:52 AM

    If the vulture fund in this case eventually tries to repossess this unfortunate family’s house, and then God forbid succeeds to be the new owner: Will Leo Varadkar’s Government then cover the cost of repairs to a mica damaged house now owned by a Vulture fund? Probably they will

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    Mute Cian
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    Oct 29th 2018, 11:04 AM

    @Liam Kehoe: Why would they repossess a useless house??. Be realistic.

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    Oct 29th 2018, 1:02 AM

    Make all mortages non recourse,let the banks Carry the cost..wäre paying the highest rates in europe…they can afford it.

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    Oct 29th 2018, 1:40 AM

    @Kieran OKeeffe: how about making the engineer who signed off on the build take responsibility? Not standing up 4 banks but there’s a chain of command

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    Oct 29th 2018, 8:01 AM

    @Vote4Pedro: How would the engineer know mica was in the blocks? Blame lies with the quarry, block manufacturer. They’re still in business too.

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    Oct 29th 2018, 9:44 AM

    @TheHeathen: don’t know if the quarry would have known either? From now on blocks should be certified with sample laboratory tests

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    Oct 29th 2018, 9:49 AM

    @Kieran OKeeffe:
    We’re paying the highest rates in Europe due to the high levels of default. Not many years ago we wete paying amongst the lowest rates in Europe.

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    Oct 29th 2018, 9:55 AM

    @Trevor Connolly: In this case the quarry and block manufacturer are the one company.

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    Mute Irish Cottage Rental
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    Oct 29th 2018, 2:40 AM

    Of course Ulster Bank declined to comment. Whenever their fingerprints are on a story like this they go silent. It’s the sort of organisation they are!

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    Oct 29th 2018, 1:20 AM

    FFG and Vultures go so well together..

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    Mute John O'Brien
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    Oct 29th 2018, 2:37 AM

    No doubt the builder and block manufacturer are no longer in existence. It’s time the construction sector took responsibility for their work. Self regulation doesn’t work and successive governments have ignored the poor quality of houses built for many years. Developers should be made pay into a 20 year bond to cover defective construction. Especially if the government are now relying on the private sector for public housing.

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    Oct 29th 2018, 6:07 AM

    @John O’Brien: that’s the shocking thing, the quarry who built the blocks is still operating. There was a prime time special a few years ago on this.

    Shocking and heart breaking stuff.

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    Mute Martin Lintzgy
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    Oct 29th 2018, 1:00 AM

    How on earth did they make blocks like this..
    It has been known for a 100 years that mica and concrete don’t mix

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    Oct 29th 2018, 8:13 AM

    What about the insurance company cancelling the policy, They’re great when things are going well for them.

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    Mute Rónán O'Suilleabháin
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    Oct 29th 2018, 9:16 AM

    @Gary Quinn: could be any number of reasons, eg was the house signed off on day one? If you claimed and then couldn’t produce engineers sign off then they could cancel the policy. It’s why a good solicitor won’t draw down your mortgage until they’re satisfied you have the cover required if issues arise. Insurance is given out based on good faith principles.

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    Oct 29th 2018, 1:18 PM

    @Rónán O’Suilleabháin: why don’t the banks send in engineers when they are considering making the loan offer?

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    Oct 29th 2018, 7:20 AM

    I cant begin to imagine the stress this has put on the homeowner and their family. Do the people responsible feel any guilt whatsoever?!

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    Oct 29th 2018, 6:29 AM

    So your sold a faulty product and still have to pay for it? No shame with these people..

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    Oct 29th 2018, 1:40 AM

    Ulster Bank and Promontoria, do some research……
    I can’t say more, comment will be deleted,
    Rotten

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    Oct 29th 2018, 2:42 AM

    @Isthatright: Ulster Bank (they of the endless IT problems) is the same bank stringing out hundreds of their tracker mortgage fraud customers into 2019. Indeed.

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    Oct 29th 2018, 12:52 AM

    Did somebody say redress scheme. Ha ha ha ha ha

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    Oct 29th 2018, 12:55 AM

    @Joe Mc: more like re address scheme, to your local hotel, while the vultures sell your property paying very little tax. Ireland needs to wake up to this white collar crime

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    Mute Genius 80s+
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    Oct 29th 2018, 1:18 AM

    Or to a multi-room FG Hub, Or hostel as everyone else calls them.

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    Oct 29th 2018, 7:29 AM

    Quite a problem in Dublin too but pyrite in foundations rather than bricks.

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    Mute Sean
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    Oct 29th 2018, 9:30 AM

    Ulster Bank are a bank that I would not go near. They treated their customers disgracefully.

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    Oct 29th 2018, 9:08 AM

    Ulster bank are parasites avoid at all cost . I am a customer who never failed to pay a mortgage payment and I can tell you they are a nightmare.

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    Oct 29th 2018, 1:30 AM

    How the hell is the government liable for this. Did they build the houses.

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    Oct 29th 2018, 9:03 AM

    @Shaun Gallagher:
    I would suggest it isn’t liable, but a responsible government would want to take action. You’re not suggesting that these nearly 5000 homeowners be left high and dry through no fault of their own?

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    Oct 29th 2018, 1:24 PM

    @Shaun Gallagher: the government should ensure that builders are not allowed to make houses out of crappy sand and that banks arent allowed to loan money for and make profit on unsafe dwellings. Minimum standards apply. Don’t they regulate and/or tax everything?

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    Oct 29th 2018, 11:08 AM

    It shows the Insurance Scam for what it is when they did not pay out and cancelled his policy.

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    Oct 29th 2018, 9:41 AM

    They need crowd help, fairly fast

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    Oct 29th 2018, 11:24 AM

    Think about it: if the owner stops paying they normally repossess, to sell on. These properties being damaged and uninsurable as well as non-compliant with all manner or Regs means they’re worth zero. So why would they repossess? And why would owners continue to make payments? They’re already in the worst position they can be.

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    Oct 29th 2018, 1:12 PM

    Banking hasn’t evolved since the 19th century. When they loan you the capital for a house it’s like one of those east India trading ship gambles…it may come home and pay for itself or it may sink. That’s the risk they and all on board took.
    But in this day and age they should not be allowed into the housing market unless they ensure those houses are properly and safely constructed at a minimum. Unlandworthy these were.

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    Oct 29th 2018, 6:01 PM

    Ulster Bank are a shower. I had an account with them for a few years and had no loan or mortgage they sent me a letter saying to withdraw my money and that they no longer want my business

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    Mute William Kelly
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    Oct 30th 2018, 7:06 AM

    How can an insurance company cancel a policy in this circumstance?
    How can a bank expect the mortgage to be paid, when clearly the building should be abandoned?
    How can the vulture fund expect to redeem its investment, given that demolition & rebuild seems necessary?
    And what about the original builder warranty, which is funded by development levies to local authorities?

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